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Name: Johnathan2
Date: January 4, 2005 at 00:09:09 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Home SP1
CPU/Ram: AMD Duron, 701MHz / 576MB
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How would I go about installing XP on my friend's computer?

He has Windows ME, and I guess a virus or something, but now when you try to boot, normal or safe mode, it either crashes before anything loads, or says "Windows has found the following new hardware:" but lists nothing. It says you need to find the drivers... we manually tried every folder we could, nothing. At one point, it said something like, "You need the following drivers:" and again, listed nothing.

Even in normal mode, the color is low-quality, as if in Safe Mode. And as soon as we cancel the "new hardware" thing, it either crashes, or nothing loads at all. The Ctrl+Alt+Del menu is blank.

He has a disk to boot into DOS, and we used that, but we can't get XP to install. We tried running setup.exe, but it said this type of program could not be run in DOS mode.

Any suggestions? What I was thinking was, I could bring my hard drive over, install it as C:, and his current one as D:, and if I did that... is there any way to install XP on the D: drive, without erasing anything on C:?

Thanks a lot,
Johnathan



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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 4, 2005 at 00:44:52 Pacific
Reply:

Hi, No, you can't install XP on another PC and then transplant the drive.

Actually, you can but you'll have a mess.

Look here:

http://www.hexff.com/win98_install.php

M2


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Response Number 2
Name: Richard59
Date: January 4, 2005 at 01:17:19 Pacific
Reply:

You need to determine if your friend's system has some kind of hardware fault first. Download a harddrive diagnostic tool from the harddrive maker and test his drive for integrity. Next you need to determine if the system is even XP compatible. Does it meet minimum XP requirements? Next you need to decide if the drive contains any files that you need to keep.
If it does then you could take his drive and instal it as slave in your machine to try to recover any files.

Once you've completed that then you should format the drive and return it to the machine it came from. Xp is not loaded from DOS. The XP disk is bootable. Just set bios to boot from CD first and insert the XP disk. Reboot and follow the prompts.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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Response Number 3
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 4, 2005 at 01:29:13 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Richard,

Goo stuff.

While we're on the subject, not meaning to split hairs, but doesn't XP/2k need to have a viable FAT partition to start the install?

It seems to need someplace to put files.

Am I missing something here?

TIA

M2


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Response Number 4
Name: Richard59
Date: January 4, 2005 at 01:55:51 Pacific
Reply:

No. Xp can start with a raw drive and has all the partitioning and format tools inbuilt in the setup files. It can be installed in either fat32 or ntfs.
If you want a dualboot system with either 98 or ME as the other system then the 9x system should be installed first in a fat32 partition. XP is installed last into another partition which can be either fat32 or NTFS. During the setup process XP will lodge it's bootfiles in the root of the C drive while creating the dualboot menu and boot.ini.

Similarly it is possible to create a dualboot system with say 2k and XP both in NTFS partitions,or with XP in it's own FAT32. In either case XP adds it's bootfiles to the NTFS partition that contains 2k

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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Response Number 5
Name: Johnathan2
Date: January 4, 2005 at 02:22:51 Pacific
Reply:

Okay, how exactly do I format it?

format C: /s

right? Will it work, or will there be errors? Will that work on the DOS disk he has, or do I need a special kind, since he's on ME?

Another thing... "Download a harddrive diagnostic tool from the harddrive maker and test his drive for integrity."

Where, exactly? What I would do is see what company his hard drive was made by and download anything available... I won't be back at his house until tomorrow, though. Do I save it to a floppy disk then boot it the same way with the DOS disk, or what?

Thanks.


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Response Number 6
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 4, 2005 at 02:35:44 Pacific
Reply:

Richard,

OK, I learned something here.

I did a few installs recently and they wouldn't "go." But maybe there were other probs.

M2


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Response Number 7
Name: Johnathan2
Date: January 4, 2005 at 03:39:06 Pacific
Reply:

Also, will I need the Windows ME CD at anytime during formatting?


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Response Number 8
Name: Richard59
Date: January 4, 2005 at 04:17:34 Pacific
Reply:

If you plan to format the drive and do a clean XP instal then no you won't need the ME CD. I have a preference for using a 98 bootdisk with FDISK to delete current partitions and re- create a new partition and set it active. Once that's done just pop in the XP CD and reboot. I believe XP CD has the facility to delete and re-create partitions but I am familiar with FDISK and have a preference to use it. If you need a bootfloppy you can get one at www.bootdisk.com

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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Response Number 9
Name: Richard59
Date: January 4, 2005 at 04:26:30 Pacific
Reply:

Harddrive diagnostic tools are a download from most harddrive makers. You run the downloaded file in windows with a blank formatted floppy in A drive and it will create a disgnostic bootdisk. Use that to boot up and run the test.
Since you cannot get his machine to boot at the moment the only way to find out his HDD maker will be to pull the drive and look at the label. I suggest you slave his drive in your system and run the test from there.

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach him to fish and his wife will never forgive you.


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