how do i convert from wps to html or text...i have vista

October 17, 2016 at 12:34:53
Specs: Windows Vista
how do i convert wps to html or text...i have vista and 7 or xp...not sure... i tired going to file and saving as text and as html but though it says it will save it goes back to wps...i have a company that wants me to send my resume and cover letter in any other form than wps. please help me i am a total heophyte. thank you

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#1
October 17, 2016 at 14:21:42
How do you not know which version of Windows you're running? Have a look at the Start button on your computer & then look at the following link. From left to right they're Win95, WinXP, Vista, Win7.

http://gadgetynews.com/wp-content/u...

Are you using the very outdated Microsoft Works program or Kingsoft WPS Office? Both use the file extension .wps. If you're using WPS Office, here's how to re-save your file as .docx.

http://www.ksosoft.com/writer/214-c...



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#2
October 17, 2016 at 14:40:21
thank you for taking the time and energy to respond. what i meant was i have two old computers and i was not sure which is which...this one has the 4 colored squares in a bigger circle. i am using microsoft works that came with the computer [a little outdated i now, but it is still surviving...ironically, it gives me the option to save as htlml, text, rf, doc, etc, but when i save it, it does not seem to take. as i said the company i was sending my resume to wants all those other formats instead of wps.
would you know if i went to the library and used their computer, would i be able to convert it...and would the format i used change
thanks again for trying to help neophyte me..

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#3
October 17, 2016 at 15:35:55
If they will accept a pdf file this free online converter should do it (not tried personally):
https://online2pdf.com/convert-wps-...

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#4
October 18, 2016 at 05:25:10
"the company i was sending my resume to wants all those other formats instead of wps"

Not surprising, I doubt any business uses Works anymore. If you use the converter mentioned above, carefully review the results for errors.

You'd probably be better off downloading/installing one of the freebie office suites - Open Office, Libre Office, WPS Office. You can then redo your files & save in a modern format.

https://www.openoffice.org/why/inde...

https://www.libreoffice.org/discove...

https://www.wps.com/office-free


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#5
October 18, 2016 at 05:47:32
What exactly happens when you attempt to save the file as a Doc?

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#6
October 18, 2016 at 10:53:14
thank you all. you are so amazingly kind and helpful. a couple of answers and other questions as a result...

ouch!! yes i know i am outdated, but she is still working [notice the personification of the computer...i think of her as human]

i have an old computer as you know [four colorful windows.squares], so will it hurt to download a new office suite?

when i attempted to save the file as a Doc or any of the other choices, it agreed to do it, but it seemed to still save it as a wps...it also did save one to a rtf... but when i tried to open it up, it said windows cannot open...it needs to know the program???

you are all so terrific...thank you so very much


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#7
October 18, 2016 at 10:59:50
derek, just wanted to let you know it did convert with your link,m but it did not stay formatted as i had it, and it would not let me edit. there was some adjustments you could make before you did the conversion, but i could not adjust it properly for what i needed . thank you though because it did work if it did not need to be formatted.

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#8
October 18, 2016 at 12:08:15
There are other online wps converters here:
http://www.online-convert.com/file-...
See right hand side - html is mentioned.

Again I cannot vouch for the website.

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#9
October 18, 2016 at 14:06:14
Are you serious about applying for this job? If you submit your resume in an outdated format, it will go right in the trash bin. You will likely have to create a new resume using one of the free office suites I listed. Get the resume just the way you want it & then save it using the default file format. For example, resume.odt. Once you've saved it, try using "export as PDF". With any luck, the software will automatically create a PDF copy of your file & all the fonts, formatting, etc will remain intact.

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#10
October 19, 2016 at 00:35:03
sorry rider, i am just not well versed in this, and i have a windows vista and up until this happened, i had not had a problem using wps documents. what will happen to all my documents that i have saved? is this wps becoming obsolete? when i try to save my documents, it does not give me the option to file odt. it does give me the option to save as pdf and html and text, but after i ask it to do that, it saves it as wps. . thank you for your help

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#11
October 19, 2016 at 08:33:17
Yes wps file extension (the old Works Word Processor) is obsolete. Word is now favoured which uses either doc or docx.

OpenDocument Text (.odt) is the file format used by some non MS word processing applications, such as OpenOffice.org Writer and Google Docs.

Some more ideas here, an MS viewer etc:
http://www.online-tech-tips.com/ms-...

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#12
October 19, 2016 at 15:35:44
Derek, thank you so much for expending the time and energy to explain to me things that others obviously know. i appreciate your patience and your understanding. so all my documents that i am saving are all wps files...oh no!!! thank you for the link, but as it says, if you have word, one will not have a problem opening up the wps files...so for this moment, i can still open all my files. i only ran into this problem and then gained this insight when they would not accept the wps file, and i got brought into the 21st century. should i figure out something for my future documents that i am still using works with? or continue blithely along with the wps files, which my computer still opens? thank you again for being so kind and considerate

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#13
October 19, 2016 at 16:03:16
The main problem is the one you have encountered, that not so many other people use wps these days.

MS Word is expensive. I've heard good reports of this freebie which you could use to produce doc and docx files in the future:
http://www.kingsoftstore.com/writer...

Just for info, docx files are a compressed file so they are particularly suitable for emailing as attachments. The are very popular.

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#14
October 21, 2016 at 08:11:57
The fact that you're still running Vista doesn't much matter, but the writing program you're using & the type of file you're submitting definitely does. Microsoft Works was put out to pasture in 2009; I doubt any businesses use it anymore. Works was replaced with Microsoft Office.

As Derek said, MS Office is expensive - the Home Edition costs about $150.

There are several FREE office programs that are compatible with MS Office - in other words, they can both read & write MS Word files (doc & docx). Personally, I wouldn't submit a resume in doc or docx format because they can be easily edited. But if you submit your resume as a wps file, you can kiss you chances goodbye.

You have been supplied three free office suites to choose from - Open Office, Libre Office, & WPS Office (Kingsoft). I believe all of them use odt as their default file format. You can try to copy/paste your old resume from Works to any of the above & see how it goes, but likely you will have to recreate from scratch. Initially, save your new resume as an odt file. Make a copy of it & then experiment with the copy. Try resaving the copy as doc or docx & see if the formatting stays intact. It might go out of whack just like when you tried the online converter. And as I said in my other response, try exporting it as a pdf file & see how that works. IMO, pdf is the way to go.


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#15
October 21, 2016 at 08:27:44
thank you for taking the time to explain mumble jumble to me...i appreciate the opportunity to learn and understand.

so there is no problem downloading these three offfice suites...meaning it wont hurt the computer in any way...for example, i was told not to download a newer operating system [ie windows 10] because it would hurt the computer

secondly, are you advising me to download the suite so that all future documents will be in a new format, thus, i should no longer use works??? i can rewrite the documents , that would be no problem...i just want to learn from this and know what to do in the future. i was happily going along using works, not knowing it had been replaced. [and in works, i am unable to save the documents in anything other than wps...it gives me options to do other files, but it does not follow through]

do the new office suites save in pdf., since you think that is the best way to go??

thank you again for dragging me into the present. i am most appreciative


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#16
October 21, 2016 at 12:51:21
If you are not short of space keep Works for your existing documents then download one of the others for new stuff. If the new package attempts to open WPS files and fails then you can set it to open with Works again. We can help if necessary.

At that happy stage you can rewrite your WPS documents, then if you have no further need for Works it can be uninstalled.

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#17
October 21, 2016 at 20:54:40
derek, first of all, you are wonderful. thank you for your continued communiques and for your assistance. how ironic, though, because i just had something pop up on my screen...i am going to try to remember it and type it here, so maybe you would be willing to explain what it means...before i write it though, i want to tell you that i have no "files" or "programs"open, nor am i trying to start any programs or files, but i do have more than 20 windows open, one being the computing.net...ok here goes...exclamation point...your computer is low on memory...to restore enough memory for programs to work correctly, save your files and then close or restart all open programs ?????

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#18
October 22, 2016 at 07:19:44
"your computer is low on memory"
Firstly that is something completely different and has no bearing on your wps issue.
How much RAM have you got? See here under Vista:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/...

Amongst the possible causes for low RAM (memory) can be too many background programs running, or malware. If you happen to have two anti-virus programs running together in real time that can cause this too. We can run a quick malware check if you wish.

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#19
October 22, 2016 at 07:50:12
Out of curiosity what type of jobs are you applying for? As riider has stated above, if your resume does not meet the first glance test it will get tossed immediately. Furthermore, many jobs do require at least rudimentary computer skills. You are never to old to learn.

I will tell you one thing that may help you navigate through your issues. READ ALL the screens before typing anything. Most of the time the answer is right before you.


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#20
October 23, 2016 at 08:46:12
i realize it has no bearing on the wps issue. however, you had stated..." if you are not short on space" in your last response thus, my segue-way to this latest challenge.

ironically, the computer did not have the capability of doing the first three ways the article spelled out. however, i was able to find the task manager. it noted that i only have the one program open...the task manager!!

on the task manager, it says 1.37 gb of "memory"...but i decided to explore further, because it did not say ram, and so i went to the computer systems and it said 2.0 ram

and as far as the anit virus programs, the computer has none!!!

by the way, i agree, i do love learning and i am so appreciative of the time and energy expended by you all to help me do so


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#21
October 23, 2016 at 11:48:29
You may have 2.0GB of installed RAM (memory) but the system is using some of it to run. Most likely you have integrated graphics. Integrated graphics uses system memory. So, the two numbers are both correct.

Under programs you should see a folder labeled "startup" Any programs listed in there will load at startup and therefore use memory. If you do not need a program to run at startup then disable it by removing it from that folder. One example of items that should probably run at startup is your Anti-virus program.

Depending on your version of Windows, Microsoft provides Defender or Security Essentials for free. See the link below. There are also other freeware versions of decent AV. Avast is one I use. You should NOT be on the internet without some protection.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...


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#22
October 23, 2016 at 12:42:29
You could type msconfig in the Run box (hit Enter) and see what is showing in Startup. Any items you don't know can be Googled. Look for anything you don't need or can be run from a shortcut instead, rather than running it all the time. You can then uncheck it/them. Strictly that area is for diagnostics but many folk leave things disabled there with no ill affects.

As you have been running with no AV I would at least run these two freebies, which often unearth things:

AdwCleaner:
https://toolslib.net/downloads/view...
(blue "Download Now" button on right).
Download and "Save" the file somewhere. Go to the saved file then double click it to run the program. Use the "Scan" button, followed by the "Clean" button.

MalwareBytes:
https://www.malwarebytes.org/
(use the "download" button rather than the "buy" button).
Install and Run the program but before running the Scan go to "Settings > Detection and Protection" and put a checkmark in "Scan for rootkits". Quarantine anything it finds.

Pasting the two logs on here would be useful. To access the logs in Malwarebytes, open it, go to History at the top then Application Logs at the left. Put a check mark in the latest "Scan log" and Export it to a txt file.

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#23
October 23, 2016 at 14:53:12
thank you derek

so i typed the misconfig, and i got an interesting jibberish list...is there anyway to make a copy of it so i could show it here...maybe one glaring thing you could spot could be deleted

in the meanitme, i got another message and it told me to click on it and then it sent another message saying the low disc space condition has been resolved your C/volume now has 72MB...is this the same problem as too many open files and programs, or is this something else.

however, i just got the same message just now,,, saying i have low disc space and to push a button to resolve it!!!

am i endangering the computer using it until the problems are resolved?

i started to follow your instructions, started on the malwares, and i pushed download and it then asked me to run it [you said to go to settings first? how do i find that???. sorry for the queries but i do not want to do something that causes more trouble


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#24
October 23, 2016 at 15:16:16
You need to clean up the hard disk. Temp files remain and deleted files also remain until you empty the recycle bin. Try installing CCleaner Slim to cleanup those files. Get it from the link below. Read the screens and don't install anything other than CCleaner.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...


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#25
October 23, 2016 at 16:25:13
Low disc space is hard disc space and this is quite different to low memory which is RAM. The link I gave in #18 explains this. If you've only 72 Meg of free hard disc space it is a wonder it runs at all. Look at the system disc in "Computer" (usually the C drive). Let us know the total space (capacity) and free space.

As for MalwareBytes I said run the program first (in other words start it) then do the settings before running the Scan. However you can forget the settings if you wish as they are not too important in this instance. It would be better to run ADWCleaner first if possible.

There's no easy way to copy msconfig contents. You just have to pick through them and check using Google but anything Microsoft can be left in place.

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#26
October 23, 2016 at 16:52:38
thank you again for addressing all these questions, and i am diligently trying to follow your instructions...

so i did do the [maleware] adw cleaner first as you just said...confusing as they are both maleware,

and i did the scan and this is WHAT IT SAID

they all start out C:\Users\ryanyerby\App[Data\Local\Google\Chrome\UserData\Default\

then it continues but the four are all different [actually as i laboriously typed them here for you, i noticed #2 and #4 are the same

Extensions\nphbmanpfjfdmgba...
Local Extension Steeings\nphb,,,
Profile 1\ Extensions\nphbmanpfjfdngb..
Local Extension Settings\nphb....

now i know you said to push clean now, but it asked me if i want to keep any of these so oh, smart one, i am asking YOU, Do I????


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#27
October 23, 2016 at 16:59:32
No, run the Clean and get shot of them.

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#28
October 23, 2016 at 17:50:59
sorry everything is so difficult...i did what you instructed...i went to computer and then to c drive and it shows this

Names Date Modified Type

BOOTSECT.BAK 8/18/2008 10:51 a.m. BAK File

08da7fb39726e3ef8c 11/11/2015 4:03 a.m. File Folder

AdwCleaner 10/23/2916 3:01 p,m, File Folder

DOCS 12162008 7:24 a.m. File Folder

Program Files 9/27/2016 3:14 p.m. FIle Folder

RECYCLED 2/26/2009 1:05 a.m. File Folder

Temp 7/25/2015 9:15 p.m. File Folder

Users 2/25/2009 11:51 p.m. File Folder

Windows 10/21/2016 5:30 p.m. File Folder

and nothing about space and capacity..any ideas what to do with this???


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#29
October 24, 2016 at 08:47:22
Sorry, my info was a bit abbreviated. I should have said right click the C drive then go to Properties. You will then see the space information. You can get info about any folder or file that way.

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#30
October 24, 2016 at 11:51:09
obviously, i would have clicked on it if i saw a properties tab...i wrote you out everything i saw. i tried again this morning but i do not see anywhere to click...again, only what i wrote out for you

i am worried about what you said, that with so little free disc space, the computer will stop working???

thank you so much!!! i am so appreciative for your guidance.i am really trying to follow what you say, but alas this time, to no avail


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#31
October 24, 2016 at 12:31:18
So you go to the C drive then right click on it and "Properties" does not show on the list anywhere? If so that's mighty weird and not something I've run into. This is how it should be:
http://www.wikihow.com/Check-Your-H...
You should be able to give me some information without even going to Properties.

My remark about a hard disc that is almost full was because the computer needs a small amount of free space to work in, typically something like 5 to 10%. There might be ways to offload some if necessary which is why I'm after knowing the exact situation as apart from error reports which could possibly be incorrect.

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#32
October 24, 2016 at 12:50:10
You need to right click on the C: drive then left click properties.

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#33
October 24, 2016 at 13:03:52
Oops, seems I'm getting my wires crossed - I do it right but am saying it in reverse.
OtheHill #32 is quite right, as is my link in #3.

I won't bother about becoming a pilot LOL.

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#34
October 24, 2016 at 13:21:03
thank you, thank you i found what you want!!!

now i am going to type everything in...i wish there was a way to make a copy, but for now, i keep switching back and forth, so i will do the best i can here goes

SQ004816V03 [C:|

Local Disk

NTFS

Used Space: 149,851,136,000 bytes 139 GB

Free Space : 863,571,136 bytes 797 MB


Capacity: 150,687,707,136 bytes 140 GB


also, i did both the malewares as you instructed

othehill said Try installing CCleaner Slim . don't install anything other than CCleaner.

IS THIS something different than the malewares, and should i do this in addition?


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#35
October 24, 2016 at 13:37:54
Did MalwareBytes find much?

Thanks for figures. Yes your HD is nearly full. If there are any programs that you are certain you don't need then they can be uninstalled from "Control Panel > Add-Remove Programs".

If you have any large items (such as videos) that you can delete that would also help.

Sometimes too much is reserved for System Restore and it should only be invoked for the system drive (usually C). See if you can let us know what allowance has been made (slider % setting and figures). This should help:
https://www.microsoft.com/resources...
I doubt you need more than 5GB.

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#36
October 24, 2016 at 13:40:02
CCleaner is a clean-up programs so it might recover a bit of wasted space. It is not for finding malware.

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#37
October 24, 2016 at 13:50:17
i do not think i have any videos at all

See if you can let us know what allowance has been made (slider % setting and figures) can you translate this please???


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#38
October 24, 2016 at 13:51:42
by the way, i think you are a great navigator, pilot derek!

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#39
October 24, 2016 at 14:02:29
ddddddddddddddd

You misunderstood my instructions. When installing any of these free programs you may sometimes encounter other unwanted programs piggybacking on the primary one. In that case you MAY need to uncheck a box or two.

Just read the screens. Malwarebytes is an excellent program. You may notice the file extension for Malwarebyte is .org, which indicates non-profit status. Hope this clears up things for you. Something else to note is there are many look alike programs lurking on the internet. Be careful to download using links provided here by regular posters.

You can click on any name here to see their ranking here.

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#40
October 24, 2016 at 14:17:34
othehill, thank you for taking the time to tell me i misunderstood your instructions, but sadly, for me, i am not sure what instructions you are talking about...is this in reference to ...othehill said Try installing CCleaner Slim . don't install anything other than CCleaner??? and what box are you referring to that i need to uncheck??? sorry for imposing, but i since you took the time to explain to me, i wanted to make sure i understood. thank you again

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#41
October 24, 2016 at 14:55:46
Re the System Restore slider setting. You need to look at the link I gave in #35 to understand this, in particular the bit under the heading "Allocating more disk space to System Restore". This and looking at your current settings will allow you to see how much has been set and whether there is scope for saving some space by reducing it.

Maybe you will prefer this explanation (same thing but it does show the various screens including the slider setting):
http://www.fixitdesk.com/what-is-wi...

EDIT: Note the mention of "disc cleanup" which is another place you can go to and hopefully recover a bit more wasted space

MalwareBytes can be uninstalled when it has done its job so that will also give you a little bit more space.

What I'm basically suggesting here is that you need to try to free up as much free space as possible, as it seems the real problem is your hard disc is too small for what you want to store on it.

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#42
October 24, 2016 at 15:27:21
I was referring to #24 above. Click on the link I provided there. It will take you to Ccleaner Slim.

I agree with Derek about disk space. With as little as you have available Windows must be running slow. Do you have a tower computer or a laptop? If tower computer you can probably add an additional hard drive into the case to get more storage space.


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#43
October 24, 2016 at 22:09:21
i got the wrong answer again for you...it is a laptop..and yes, it definitely runs slows, and you said the disc is too small from what i want to store on it...what is taking up so much room, can i do something to make more room so computer can continue to run? i will try to follow the instructions so that i can do what you ask.... " let us know what allowance has been made (slider % setting and figures)"</b

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#44
October 24, 2016 at 22:23:44
"what is taking up so much room"
That's what we are trying to find out. It boils down to:

Your own stuff, presumably everything is necessary.

Maybe:
Programs you don't need (see "Control Panel > Add-Remove Programs").
Unnecessary restore points (that slider setting).
Temporary files that have built up (remove with Disk Cleanup and CCleaner.

It's not easy to sort from afar. You need to check through the various general possibilities, with our help. Otherwise work through the file system to see what big stuff is around. Remember that some files are hidden by Microsoft.

Has MalwareBytes now been run and if so did it find much?

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#45
October 25, 2016 at 00:49:20
two threats were quarantined, and i have not done anything further...wanted to ask you first
they are pup optional mindspark

also, something i failed to mention when you mention my own stuff that this computer was given to me and had been used before. i believe he wiped off his documents but there may be things of his on here


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#46
October 25, 2016 at 07:05:42
Re #45
If they are quarantined they are now safe.

You might well be right about what is on there but there's nothing I can suggest from here other than you take a look. If you can find the Documents folder, right click it and select Properties (left click). In the General tab you will see the File/Folder/Size information which will take a little while to settle down. That will tell you the usage and can be repeated on any other folder, such as Music, Pictures and so forth. Those clues will help you find anything big.

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#47
October 25, 2016 at 08:55:15
this is what the properties said
size 5.05 MB (5,303,034 bytes)
size on disc 5.28 MB (5,545,984 bytes)
117 files 20 folders

but i am trying to understand this again...do the documents you told me to go to affect the hard disc or the ram? and i think you explained to me that it is the hard disc i need to free up space on or the computer will stop working????


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#48
October 25, 2016 at 11:00:58
uh oh!!! one new problem...went to download the cleaner, and though it downloads, malware stops it from opening??? what can i do??

so to recoup, is there a way to free up ram space?

and i believe we are working on freeing up disc space???, when you asked me to provide information about the allowance?
i will research the information that you asked for [the allowance?] and will report back as soon as i do

thank you so much for helping save this computer, who is trying so hard to stay alive!!!


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#49
October 25, 2016 at 11:29:02
I assume you regularly shut down your computer. Windows backs up certain files before installing updates or new programs. Also about once a week. I believe the default setting for those backups is 12% of the disk space. You probably don't need all of the saved backups.

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#50
October 25, 2016 at 11:43:33
sorry, i do not understand then what to do. if i do not need the saved backups, what do i do to get rid of them?

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#51
October 25, 2016 at 11:43:55
RAM (memory) is used to support the CPU (Central Processing Unit). I don't know why this was reported initially which is why we checked for malware. RAM is a temporary thing and is also emptied each the computer is restarted and released at other times when Windows deems it necessary. It is to do with the working arrangements of the computer and nothing to do with bulk storage. It is plug in stick (or sticks) with microchips on them.. You don't have to free up space on RAM and (long story) it doesn't help if you do.

Hard disc space is where all your programs and data reside. This is what we are currently looking into and it seems that best part of 140 GB has been used up which is likely to cause difficulties because there is no leeway for temporary file and registry changes. The 5 MB you gave for Documents is miniscule. Even if it was 5GB it would not be large compared to 140 GB. You need to look elsewhere for your high usage.

The "allowance" I am asking you to check is the space allocated to save System Restore points to (used to revert back to a previous time in the event of a problem). All I am trying to find out is whether the allowance happens to be excessive which, if that turns out to be the case, would mean we can reserve less and gain some valuable hard disc space for general use. It is just an idea and it might not be using much, or even be enabled at all. When you get the figures we will know the situation.

When you say that malware will not allow CCleaner do you mean MalwareBytes? Normally we just use that program to check things out and don't usually bother to invoke the trial which means it is running in the background all the time. However CCleaner is not a viral program so I wonder why it is being queried. Assuming you mean MalwareBytes, did you get it from the link I gave in #22? It is important to understand that the word malware means potentially damaging software. The word MalwareBytes is the name of a specific program which is designed to unearth and remove malware. If you ever have any doubts about terminology use Google (which is handy for many other aspects of computers too).

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#52
October 25, 2016 at 12:09:48
no derek, it was #24 from othehill wrote You need to clean up the hard disk. Temp files remain and deleted files also remain until you empty the recycle bin. Try installing CCleaner Slim to cleanup those files. Get it from the link below. Read the screens and don't install anything other than CCleaner.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/det...

i am sorry for using the wrong terminology...when i tried to open the download it said it was being blocked, and right now when i tried to open the link above, it would not even open, so i can not recheck who was blocking it...it was a little blurp that came up from the bottom of the screen and said they were blocking it.



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#53
October 25, 2016 at 12:11:54
derek, thank you for explaining the difference between ram and hard disc...i will follow up and get you the information you asked for about the allowance.

i am obviously still not clear, but would removing all or some of the documents clear up the hard disc??? if so, could i put the documents onto an external drive and free up the disc space so the computer wont stop working?


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#54
October 25, 2016 at 12:35:08
re the last post...i went into history and got it the download " reimage repair" again..the thing that popped up and kept it from opening was malware bytes and said it was potentially an unwanted program and it removed the download ...evidently has a mind of its own and much smarter than I

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#55
October 25, 2016 at 12:58:42
Your total documents are 5 MB (if I'm reading you right) and your hard disc capacity is 140 GB. See the second paragraph of my #51. 5 MB is only the tiniest fraction of a GB. You wouldn't notice it if you removed the lot. You are looking for something very much larger (Gigabytes) to make any noticeable difference to your free HD space.

It seems Reimage Repair does have some malware built into it I'm afraid, which is why MalwareBytes will suggest you remove it. I'm inclined to agree. I've no idea whether you can opt out of any of it during install but as a general rule watch out for unwanted goodies pre-ticked for you in any downloads on the internet. Opt for a Custom Install if available and check everything before you click.

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#56
October 25, 2016 at 13:07:39
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If you can't left click on the link I posted in #24 above and have it open to CCleaner Slim download then your system may be infected.

Was your laptop previously part of a business network? If so, that may be the reason you can't download.


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#57
October 26, 2016 at 18:16:27
i have been taking care of an ill relative and have no internet connection. but here i am again

no, i do not believe computer was part of a business network

and derek, so sorry you had to reiterate the info about the documents, i am so appreciative that you are willing to do so. i am going to look tonight for the allowance...any other ideas as how to find what is taking up the space?? i only use the computer to check emails and write letters and i have a few pictures, what things could take up so much space? i know you said you can not tell without looking at it, but i was thinking maybe you could give me some general ideas that might enlighten me.

thank you all for trying to save this computer. we are all so very appreciative


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#58
October 27, 2016 at 09:07:15
Did you look in "Control Panel > Add-Remove Programs" (my #44) to see if there are any large programs that you don't need? This of-course it the place where you install and uninstall such things.

Otherwise the only way to find out what is using the space is to work your way down the folder structure on the C drive, although starting with user areas would be sensible. "Properties" will tell you where the big stuff is and then you work down the sub-folders. Don't be tempted to delete individual system files otherwise it will screw up the computer.

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#59
October 27, 2016 at 09:30:23
The Windows restore files can use up to 12% as I stated above.

Did you install Ccleaner Slim by clicking the link I provided in #24? The link definitely works for me. Ccleaner Slim can remove temp files and internet cookies along with other items.


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#60
October 27, 2016 at 19:21:53
othehill, i followed the link in #24 and this is what i get...

CCleaner Slim 5.22 Author: Piriform Ltd. Date: 09/19/2016 03:24 PM Size: 5.26 MB License: Freeware Requires: Win 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP Downloads: 2554764 times [ Comments Screenshots ] TIP: Click Here to Repair/Restore Missing Windows Files Download@Authors Site Report a Bad Link Rating: 5 (2661 votes) Read more at: https://tr.im/1vY7GTIP:

and when i click on that, it goes to...

http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/do...

but nothing happens

i have retried it several times to no avail

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#61
October 27, 2016 at 19:34:37
derek i went to #35 to get you the information you requested about the slider and the allowance???? and this is what i got when i pushed your link...To change System Restore settings
You can change System Restore settings by:

Excluding a non-system drive so System Restore does not monitor or restore it

Resuming System Restore monitoring

Allocating more disk space to System Restore

Turning off System Restore

Turning on System Restore

could you tell me which one i do to get you the information you requested??


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#62
October 27, 2016 at 20:57:01
You are clicking on the wrong thing. Actually click on the Yellow "Download Link", not the "report a bad link". Try again.

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#63
October 27, 2016 at 23:01:09
othehill, i did in fact click on the download ...http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/get/ccleaner_slim,1.html...to reiterate, this is the one i clicked on, and then it says download witll start, it opens a new tab, which is http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/do...
and then the page sits white!! i have tried again and again to no avail

am i doing something wrong???

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#64
October 28, 2016 at 07:28:53
1. System Restore.
Read and try to understand this:
http://slowpctexpert.blogspot.co.uk...
#3 on there is the place we are interested in, where it shows the slider. Let us know what it is set to and the figure that is showing. You have to read between the lines a bit with the links you are given.

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#65
October 28, 2016 at 07:32:22
1. System Restore.
Read and try to understand this:
http://slowpctexpert.blogspot.co.uk...
#3 on there is the place we are interested in, where it shows the slider. Let us know what it is set to and the figure that is showing. You have to read between the lines a bit with the links you are given.

2. Your #63
The link you show should give you the CCleaner file to download (named ccsetup523_slim.exe) - I've just tried it. Try this: save the file somewhere rather than running it, then go to the saved file and double click on it to install CCleaner.

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#66
October 28, 2016 at 07:44:43
Did you ever discover which operating system you are using? If not then we might well be giving you inappropriate answers. Try this:

From the desktop press the Windows key and the R key together. This should give you a small Window called the "Run box". In there type winver then hit the Enter key. This should tell you what operating system you are running. Let us know.

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#67
October 28, 2016 at 08:49:42
i am so sorry that every time you ask me to do something, there is something that is not clear for me...you asked me to press the windows key and the R key...and i do not know what the windows key is...i tried the icon in the left corner, the start, but that did not work. i believe that i did find out earlier that i have a vista. does that help?

also, i did go to the download and got it to open just now..when i pushed run, it warned me that it is going to permanently delete files. do i still go through with it? from the trepidatius one


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#68
October 28, 2016 at 09:30:58
The windows key is a key on the keyboard near the bottom left hand corner. Best do that winver check just to make sure it really is Vista.

As for the download I've no idea what that stuff was about deleting files. However I did suggest in #65 that you SAVE the download as a file rather than running it. You then double click the saved file. Try that and see what happens.

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#69
October 28, 2016 at 12:35:38
not usually so dense..thanks for the info, and yes it is vista home premium version 6.0


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#70
October 28, 2016 at 12:44:13
so derek, i did what you said in #65 again, and i think i installed the file again. it stated that it had installed it ...but now what?

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#71
October 28, 2016 at 12:55:58
dddd

Majorgeeks> click on the bold Yellow text "DOWNLOAD LOCATIONS"> Wait for the screen stating downloading Ccleaner Slim 5.23. Then you MAY need to look in your download folder for the compressed file.

There is a shortcut to the folder showing the current session. Upper right corner of your browser screen should show an arrow pointing downward. Left click on that to see the current download if it doesn't present itself.

The screens on Majorgeeks and many other sites are hawking other softwares, which they make money on even if they are free. That is why I warned you above to not download anything other than Cleaner Slim. Just read the screens BEFORE clicking thru.

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#72
October 28, 2016 at 18:22:55
so i got another blurp saying i was out of disc space and to use the link to free up space.

when i did so, i got this little window popup...

disk cleanup for SQ004816V03 {c }

disk cleanup more options

you can use Disk Cleanup to free up to 547 MB of disk space on SQ004816V03 ; [C:]

files to delete

download program files 0 bytes

temporary lntemet files 610 bytes

recycle bin 0 bytes

system error memory dump files 176 MB

system error minidunp files 545 KB


total amount of space disc space you gain 547 MB

there is another tab that says more options and i can type all that out for you if you want to know what it says??

so what do i do...do i proceed with this? and is this the same thing as the cleaner slim that i downloaded

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#73
October 28, 2016 at 20:17:52
Well, in addition to the afore mentioned 12% for Windows restore files, music, pictures and videos can take up lots of space. I have 18GB of music alone. Another 33GB in My Documents.

Double click on Computer> double click C drive> right click any folder there and choose properties to see how much disk space is being used. Double click on any folder to open on level down. right click on any sub-folder to see how much disk space is being used.

Anything in your my documents folders can be moved to external storage, such as CDR, DVDR, or USB hard drive.

Checking will show you where you are using the space.

Incidentally, this process works for all versions of Windows.

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#74
October 29, 2016 at 06:22:24
This is hilarious!

Try this direct download link to CCleaner-Slim: https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/d...


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#75
October 29, 2016 at 08:50:36
riider
Same link as in #63.

dddd
If you installed CCleaner there should be an icon on the desktop - a red "C" with a brush on it.

What you are seeing in #72 is not CCleaner it is Disk Cleanup. Go ahead with it but it is not going to give you a fat lot more space. If it should offer to clean up system files. If so go ahead with that too.

Did you ever find out how much, if anything, System Restore is using?

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#76
October 30, 2016 at 02:40:20
that is interesting what you are saying about the disk cleanup...because in fact i have experienced that directly... it has offered to do it before and says congratulations, but then a short time later it tells me the disc has low memory.

as far as the ccleaner, yes i have downloaded, and yes, i have the red C with the brush. but i had asked you [#67 second paragraph] if i should proceed with it even though it warns you that files will be permanently deleted??

and as far as your number 64 and the information you wanted about system restore and the slider, i went to the link you gave me to find out the information you wanted, but sadly, i am not sure what you wanted when you said go to number 3...can you elucidate?? thank you so very much for your continued patience and perseverance,

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#77
October 30, 2016 at 05:41:58
The repeated low memory reports (which I interpret as low hard disc space) are a matter of scale. Disc Cleanup will remove some unnecessary files but they will soon come back. This is because you need to remove far more than it is reporting. Make sure you tell it to remove system files as well if it asks.

CCleaner is similar, it will free up some space but it will refill with time. Yes, run the cleaner, the sole purpose of suggesting it was so that it removes files which are unnecessary.

Both of these will only release a small amount of space compared to what you need. To really get to grips with your low hard disk space these, already given, are the most important steps:

1. "Go to Control Panel > Programs and Features" and check for unnecessary programs, particularly large ones. Maybe some can be uninstalled.

2. To find out what else it taking up all the space you have you work down the files and folder structure using "Properties" to see where the bulk of the space is being used up. It is then a matter of what you can find that you don't really need. Do not remove "programs" that way, see #1 above instead

FORGET WHAT I'VE PREVIOUSLY POSTED ABOUT SYSTEM RESTORE. Vista doesn't have those easy slider settings like any other system. This is what you have to do instead:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...
However, for our purposes right now all you have to do is put this line in the Run box "Command Prompt", hit the Enter key and let us know what it says:
vssadmin list shadowstorage
That should tell us if there are any a space saving possibilities there.

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#78
October 30, 2016 at 05:59:11
This is getting silly. In #73 I detailed how to check disk usage. Did you do that?

You only have 140GB to work with. It is easy to fill that up considering the size of programs and other files like movies, music, photos, etc. Look at your documents folder first.


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#79
October 30, 2016 at 11:14:34
ok i am no longer trying to do what you said to do before but said to forget now!!! that sure is a convoluted sentence

but i did do what you asked and a black box with white writing comes up and disappears before i can see what it says....this happened over and over again

soooooooo, for once, i found another way i believe...i was able to right click and found some options, tried them and most did not work, like opening it up in a player, but then i found properties, and eureka, i think i found the answer...though it is not a good one...91.5 KB size and 92.0 size on disc...even to me that does not sound good??? so what can i do, oh sage one????

by the way, when you say look for large programs, what size is considered large? thank you again for your time and effort


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#80
October 30, 2016 at 12:20:53
Have you run CCleaner yet? Do NOT worry about the warning about permanently deleting files; the program is 100% safe! Just check the box next to "do not show me this again", then click OK & let CCleaner do it's thing. It will take a while so don't get impatient...just wait until you see Cleaning Complete. Directly beneath that will tell you how many MB were removed. Here's a visual:

https://winbeginner.com/wp-content/...

While you have CCleaner open, tell us what's reported at the top about the Windows version & system specs. Here's another visual:

http://www.y4pctech.com/images/how-...

If you want to know which files are taking up the most space, CCleaner can do that too. Just click Tools on the left. It will automatically default to the Uninstall tab. Once again, here's a visual:

http://s1.pir.fm/pf/blog/articles/c...

The Programs will be listed in alphabetical order. To change the order to have the Programs listed by size, simply click on the word Size at the top of the column. You may have to click twice to bring the largest Programs to the top. The next visual is not CCleaner, but it will show you where to click on Size:

http://www.imagingtips.com/othertip...

You're wasting your time trying to figure out how much space is being used by System Restore. The default setting is 15%. Lowering the percentage is fairly complex in Vista & based on the 80+ responses in this thread, it's beyond your limited skill set.

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#81
October 30, 2016 at 12:24:16
Oh heck. I made a mistake saying Run box. You want "Command Prompt". Easy peasy way just type command in Search. When the command prompt box comes up (black with white writing) then type in vssadmin list shadowstorage and hit Enter. Let us know what it says. Sorry about confusion - maybe I'm getting punch drunk.

"what size is considered large"
You are just trying to release space, so the larger the better, but the need or not for the program is more to the point.

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#82
October 30, 2016 at 14:01:48
being ever obedient and with limited skill set as stated, i followed what you told me to do derek but it says it can not be run from the command because it has to be from a command that has elevated administrator priviledges!!! ouch!!! but i did tell you what it said.two posts ago..soooooooo, for once, i found another way i believe...i was able to right click and found some options, tried them and most did not work, like opening it up in a player, but then i found properties, and eureka, i think i found the answer...though it is not a good one...91.5 KB size and 92.0 size on disc...even to me that does not sound good??? so what can i do, oh sage one????

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#83
October 30, 2016 at 14:05:59
rider, i started the cleaner and it wants me to close google chrome, so i will do so and report back. thank you for the directions. i am most appreciative.

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#84
October 30, 2016 at 14:31:28
"...91.5 KB size and 92.0 size on disc...even to me that does not sound good."

That's just cluster-size/file allocation "slack". Nothing to really be concerned with.

http://www.disk-space-guide.com/clu...

https://whereismydata.wordpress.com...

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#85
October 30, 2016 at 14:57:59
as far as my limited skill set, that is true, but i have followed exactly what has been told to me, which does not need an unlimited skill set and thus far i have not been given a link or instructions for system restore, so please dont give up on me. i can walk and chew gum at the same time with the best of them...i may not have the knowledge but i am willing to learn and am very grateful for all the help that has been given to me.

i am not sure why it is so complicated to make more space, but i did go to tools as you instructed me to and put them in order of size. one of the top ones is java for 171 MB which is something that was installed long before i had the computer. norton is on there at 69.6 MB do you know if i can delete these without any resulting problems and will that help significantly?. thank you for your perseverance ...

and here is the information you asked for from the ccleaner
windows vista home premium 32-bit SP 1
intel pentium dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHZ, 2.0GB RAM Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Fa...

Cleaning Complete [241.931 secs}
1,067 MB Removed


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#86
October 30, 2016 at 15:25:15
Back to System Restore thingy.
As given by others, the figures you provided are not what is needed. Follow this link to run "Command Prompt as Administrator":
http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/topi...
When the command prompt box comes up (black with white writing) then type in vssadmin list shadowstorage and hit Enter. Let us know what it then says in the box. Hopefully it should work this time.

I note that in #85 you are talking about stuff which is just a few MegaBytes. Do you understand the scale of things? MegaBytes are like a pea on an ocean compared to GigaBytes. You need to release far more space than that to make any impression on all those Gigabytes you have in use. It's not complicated to release space but a matter of deciding what you can do without. If you need it all then you need a larger hard disk. Norton is your virus checker so best left in place for now because it is only 69 MB anyway. CCleaner has removed 1067 MB, which is around a GigaByte, so that will help just a little bit.

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#87
October 30, 2016 at 15:56:11
thank you for the clarification...that is why i asked previously, but someone told me it did not matter.
so here are a few programs to show you though that i do not have big programs evidently according to the ccleaner
[i have two turbo tax at 661 MB
google inc 445 MB
ulead systems inc 252 MB
sun microsystems 171 MB
blue labs llc 104 MB
bradford technologies inc 86.0MB
symantec corporation 69.6 MB
`what do you think?

but now more drama.. i followed what you asked me to do and this is what came up
This site can’t be reached
www.home-electronics.net refused to connect.


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#88
October 30, 2016 at 16:36:40
Re #86
No drama just the wrong link (must have been something else on my clipboard when I posted it). I've fixed it so go back and have another try.

Agreed the programs you listed are not massive. However if they are needed then they have to be kept. That is for you to decide.

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#89
October 30, 2016 at 17:12:22
how nice of you to admit that you gave me incorrect information, i appreciate your candor and your consideration, i get some of my sanity back because as you know, i do exactly as you instruct.
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so as far as the programs, can i erase the programs...the only one i put in there is the two turbo taxes at 661 MB each, but the rest i know nothing about. can i get rid of them without causing a problem???

so now i am going to go back and forth looking at the window, remembering what it says, typing it to you and back and forth. challenging and tiring, but i will persevere

used shadow space 15,466 GB
allocated shadow space 16.211 GB
Maxium shadow space 21,051 GB

what does it mean, oh wise one???


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#90
October 30, 2016 at 17:35:44
Good job running CCleaner. You deleted about 1GB of useless files & gained a little breathing room.

As I said, System Restore is set at 15%. Let me ask you this - have you ever used System Restore before? I'm guessing the answer is NO. If you think you can handle it, you should be able to reset the maximum amount of space it uses to a much more reasonable 3GB. This will do it:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/wind...

NOTE: make sure you follow the instructions on how to run CMD as Administrator. Then basically all you have to do is copy & paste the following & press ENTER:

vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /Maxsize=3GB

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#91
October 30, 2016 at 17:52:24
thank you for the compliment. i appreciate it

your guess is right, i have never used system restore. so i will read further what you so kindly explained to me

may i ask another clarification...my computer runs sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo slow!! i put in a link, and it takes forever and it keeps pearling,, round and round the ball goes

what is responsible for this? is it because so much disc space is used, and freeing up some will help it run faster? or is there more drama and another problem to be faced.??

very grateful for your persistence in staying with this


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#92
October 30, 2016 at 17:55:24
OK thanks. I won't burden you with too much detail, just to say that it shows how much storage is reserved and used for System Restore. The good news is that there is scope to reduce it and save about 16 GB and still leave sufficient restore points available. Now for some precision typing. Go to that Command Prompt Admin box again, type in this lot and hit Enter:
vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /Maxsize=5GB
You have to be exactly right with this. Spaces where shown but no extras added, upper or lower case where shown and so forth. Note there is a single space before each forward slash.

When you've done that type in vssadmin list shadowstorage and hit Enter. Let me know the new figures which should now be reduced. Goodness knows why MS made this so techie on Vista rather than just moving a slider.

Now, back to your programs. Careful with the term "erase" programs as it smacks of deleting files. Programs must be properly uninstalled from "Control Panel > Programs and features" (or a provided uninstall). This ensures all the registry entries are removed too. If you don't need the turbo taxes programs then uninstall them and grab back a GigaByte or so. Otherwise see if we can grab some space from less important things (somehow). You need to find out the size of these three folders using right click Properties:
Documents, Music, and Videos

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#93
October 30, 2016 at 17:57:44
"...so as far as the programs, can i erase the programs..."


"google inc 445 MB
ulead systems inc 252 MB
sun microsystems 171 MB
blue labs llc 104 MB
bradford technologies inc 86.0MB
symantec corporation 69.6 MB"


Google Inc is quite possibly the Chrome Browser. If you use Chrome, leave it alone.

Ulead Systems is quite likely something from Corel. Again, if you use something from Corel, leave it alone as well.

Sun Microsystems could be several things, but most likely Java and again, if you need web pages to display anything in Java, leave it alone.

Blue Labs LLC: Most popular product seems to be "DeskBar". I'll refer you to this page for that one (if it is the case):

http://www.shouldiremoveit.com/Desk...

Bradford Technologies: only thing that may be worth removing...check this page for more info:

http://www.bradfordsoftware.com/cli...

Symantec Corporation: definitely do not remove if you have Norton Antivirus installed. Removal could expose you to virus attack and even if you have another Antivirus package installed (more than one is not recommended due to system resources and potential conflicts), removal of Norton (at least used to be) can be very difficult.

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#94
October 30, 2016 at 18:17:36
i have to go to take care of mom, so i will respond as soon as i am able to. i hope the computer will not die, and maybe even pick up speed thanks to all the help!!!

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#95
October 30, 2016 at 19:50:45
One of the reasons for slow performance, other than infections, is too may programs loading at startup & constantly running in the background. The less RAM (memory) you have, the more apparent the drain from these startup programs will be. Being that you only have 2GB memory, reducing the startup programs to the bare minimum should improve performance significantly.

CCleaner can be used for a lot of things other than just cleaning. One of those things is managing these startup programs. Start CCleaner, click Tools, then click the Startup button. At this point, don't do anything, just have a look at the list & let us know how many entries there are. Here's what it looks like:

http://www.vistax64.com/attachments...

Looking at the above, if it were my system, I would probably disable all but maybe 4 or 5 of the entries.

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