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Name: RandyRB
Date: June 27, 2006 at 02:19:16 Pacific
OS: Win XP Pro 2002 SP-2
CPU/Ram: Intel 2.53/1024 Rambus
Product: Intel MOBO 580EMV2L
Comment:

Hi,

I am having problems with my home network.
I have a hub that 3 computers connect to.
All three computers have there own IP address. They all connect to the internet directly.
The problem I am having is one computer can not see the other two but they cam see it.
I have tried to redo the network but still get the same problem.
I am using the Nwlink Net Bios for my network.
In the advanced settings of Network connections I have made the File and print sharing for Microsoft Networking use the NW Link and unselect the TCP/IP.
Client for Microsoft Networks is done the same way.
I kind of figured that this way the network would not acess the internet that uses the TCP/IP, thus no one else could connect from the out side.
I am new to this stuff.
Any help would be appreciated.
Is there a program out there that sets up a network for you?
A home network made easy :-)

Thanks
Randy



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Response Number 1
Name: jessejames
Date: June 27, 2006 at 02:25:39 Pacific
Reply:

Ideally you need a router or switch not a hub:

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/hardwarenetworkgear/g/bldef_switch.htm


Also TCP/IP is preferable to Novel Netware IPX/SX


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Response Number 2
Name: RandyRB
Date: June 27, 2006 at 02:49:39 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks but a hub works fine and I believe is the easiest to use and is prefered.

Thanks for the info though.

Do you know of any software that creats a network ?


http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/internetworking/g/bldef_hub.htm


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Response Number 3
Name: Rambler
Date: June 27, 2006 at 03:37:01 Pacific
Reply:

I kind of figured that this way the network would not acess the internet that uses the TCP/IP, thus no one else could connect from the out side.

No one else can connect to networked client PCs anyway, only to the one with the internet connection. The internal IP addresses can't be "seen" from the internet, only the public IP on the internet connected PC. You don't need, and shouldn't have a firewall active on the client PCs either.

Use TCP/IP, Client for MS Networks, and File & Printer sharing. Give any shared folders on the internet connected PC suitable unguessable names and you're pretty secure.

There are some well-known Internet Gurus whos websites say you need several layers of security to "protect" client PCs on a network from outside access - you don't. They seem to lack a basic understanding of how networks function, and the role of protocols like TCP/IP, F & P Sharing etc. in them.

As you say, hubs work fine. Routers and switches are certainly more efficient, but they cost more.


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Response Number 4
Name: RandyRB
Date: June 27, 2006 at 04:08:00 Pacific
Reply:

All three of my computers connect directly to the internet. There is no master computer.
The only problem I am having is one computer can't see the others but the others can see it an each other.
It is just this one computer.
I am going to install a fresh copy of Windows on another hard drive and see what happens.

IS there a network program that you can install on all of the computers, thus creating a network ? Something like Win XP does.

Thanks for all the input !!

RandyRB


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Response Number 5
Name: Todd (by tharris)
Date: June 27, 2006 at 06:54:32 Pacific
Reply:

A firewall on the computers can prevent each other from seeing or accessing each other and may need to be configured accordingly. Windows XP firewall can be accessed through the contrl panel.


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Response Number 6
Name: Chuck 2
Date: June 27, 2006 at 07:11:06 Pacific

Response Number 7
Name: Rambler
Date: June 27, 2006 at 09:38:43 Pacific
Reply:

IS there a network program that you can install on all of the computers, thus creating a network ? Something like Win XP does.

I repeat - you don't NEED a program - use XP's built-in networking. If your hub connects to a router for internet access, then ALL your PCs have local IP addresses, and are invisible to the internet. Even if each PC has its own public internet address, all you need is a good software firewall on each.

You're really making things difficult for yourself.


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Response Number 8
Name: RandyRB
Date: June 27, 2006 at 18:15:40 Pacific
Reply:

I do not have a router.
I have a hub. All three connect to the hub and the cable modem connects to the hub.
All three have there own IP addresses.
All three connect to the internet there selves.
All Win XP firewalls have been tried in the off position and tried in the on position with exceptions being file and print sharing.

One other thing. In Network connections where you select to see network computers none show up. The computer you are on should at least show up even if you can not connect to the other computers.

So, for some reason this one computer is not creating a workgroup account.

So, If I could make it easier on myself I would.. :-)

Remember No Router. Direct connection to the Internet. All three. All three have there own IP addresses.

Thanks again
Any other ideas ?


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Response Number 9
Name: RandyRB
Date: June 27, 2006 at 19:34:57 Pacific
Reply:

Well,

I finially figured it out.

Certain things in Componet services were disabled.
This was to make the computer run a little better.
Some of those things were network related.

Thanks for the help.
Once I figured that the computer was not creating a workgroup (!!!!!!@@@@ BOING) it came to me to check the services.

Sorry for the brain cells... :-)

Thanks again
RandyRB


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