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Hibernate, what's the down side?

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Name: thewolfe
Date: September 6, 2006 at 06:01:38 Pacific
OS: WinXP
CPU/Ram: Pentlll/512
Product: Dell/Dem
Comment:

Hibernate, what's the down side?

Especially if I shut it down completely from time to time.



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: September 6, 2006 at 06:08:55 Pacific
Reply:

Standby & Hibernate Issues in Windows XP

Remember this: These power saving features are meant to conserve laptop batteries. If yours is a desktop you will be playing Russian Roulette.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 2
Name: mattie
Date: September 6, 2006 at 06:41:38 Pacific
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and i always thought 'tis played with some sort of a revolving firearm with only 1 roud in the chamber ...

hibernating has known issues (rumour has it that it will experience great enhancements in vista) and not really recommended for desktop pc. save your work and shut down properly to be on the safe side.

Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'

icq 10183575


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Response Number 3
Name: Sabertooth
Date: September 6, 2006 at 07:09:09 Pacific
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IMO, the hibernate feature is basically fatuous be it on laptops or desktops, because by nature it was meant to be deployed if you intend to be away from your system for a very long while maybe days.

And since the PC is almost turned off in that state, you still have to sit there more or less while everything is turning back on to end the state.

Not only that, the Hiberfil.sys file has been known to sometimes cause conflicts when defragging your system. My advice to you is, go into "Power Options" and disable the darn thing and if will be away for that long, turn OFF the PC altogether and if you intend to be back sooner use the Standby feature instead.



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Response Number 4
Name: tofftech
Date: September 6, 2006 at 08:07:09 Pacific
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When you come out of hibernation, some of your programs you wanted left running will crash. As mentioned above, it takes as long to come out of hibernation as it does to power up the laptop anyway, so no advantage I've ever found in using it.


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Response Number 5
Name: XpUser
Date: September 6, 2006 at 08:13:30 Pacific
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Here is exactly what Standby & hibernation does (and why it's basically fatuous):

Standby shuts down your monitor, hard drive, and other devices, but maintains power to random access memory (RAM).

Hibernate turns the PC Off, but saves the contents of RAM to your hard disk in compressed form.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 6
Name: Curt R
Date: September 6, 2006 at 08:31:22 Pacific
Reply:

The question should have been....

"Hibernate, what's the upside?"

Answer: None

To be honest, I don't think standbye is worth bothering with either and have found it to cause more trouble than it's worth. There's nothing like trying to wake up a system in a hibernate or standbye state only to discover it won't and you have to do a hard shutdown and then power up to get back into your system.....hope you didn't leave any unsaved work open.

I avoid both at all costs on PC's. I go into power options, disable standbye and hibernate and set the monitor to "Turn off..." after 5 min's and "Turn off hard disks" after an hour. This works better than a screensaver in the case of the monitor and saves a little energy on the HDD's and Monitor usage.

Overall, I never shut my PC's down at home so using anything else is moot. Even if I were to go away for a month or more, I'd still leave my PC's running. I run BOINC/Seti and don't want to have my packet count lower.......lol. Also, powering a PC up and down all the time is harder on it than leaving it running.



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Response Number 7
Name: Sabertooth
Date: September 6, 2006 at 08:50:12 Pacific
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"This works better than a screensaver in the case of the monitor and saves a little energy on the HDD's and Monitor usage".

"Also, powering a PC up and down all the time is harder on it than leaving it running".

The statements above has already been argued against.

I use neither standby nor hibernate as well, infact all options under my power schemes are set to "never". I do however manually turn off my LCD every night or when I'll be away for a long while or days & it isn't to save energy (already doing that by not using a CRT) but to preserve the backlight.


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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser
Date: September 6, 2006 at 08:55:53 Pacific
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In retrospect ... I called Compaq tech support to resolve problems not related to XP sleep states. Our dialog somehow led to a short discussion involving XP hibernate & standby features. The tech (off the record) admitted she never liked it but because of Compaq-M$ partnership she had support it. Standby & hibernate was born out of YOUR demands & needs for better mobility without having to shut down the PC.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 9
Name: XpUser
Date: September 6, 2006 at 09:05:03 Pacific
Reply:

typo...

..was born out of YOUR demands & needs for better..

should read

..was born out of YOUR demands & expectations & want for better..

i_XpUser


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Response Number 10
Name: Claude B
Date: September 6, 2006 at 09:27:48 Pacific
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Hi,
from my experience, hibernation was always hectic in all Windows versions, including XP SP2, in spite of official fixes. I never was able to have it work in a stable way on my ACER laptop. It will work OK a small number of times, then I will have to switch off brutally my notebook when hibernation hangs my PC. Will Microsoft handle decently this problem in the future ???...
Good luck, Claude.


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Response Number 11
Name: www
Date: September 6, 2006 at 14:36:39 Pacific
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I've used hibernate for quite awhile. without any malfunctions, on a desktop. makes startup much faster. I also use microsofts online tune up http://safety.live.com/site/en-us/default
the registry cleaner works nicely. and may be why this pc doesn't have any down sides to hibernate.
standby causes my dsl to disconnect and I have to log off-log on to correct it. ipconfig /renew etc. doesn't help.


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Response Number 12
Name: The Illustrator
Date: September 8, 2006 at 14:30:07 Pacific
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thewolfe and everyone breathing: Downside?Hibernation is an evil force!!I cannot get it to stop. I unchecked enable..is there another way to delete the hiberfile.sys file? I entered 'never' on all power scheme settings. Would powercfg/hibernate/[off] stop it?
I can't defrag, scan for viruses, leave any task that takes more than five minutes or....guess what...Hibernation!! And after it finally resumes, everything is a wreck.Nuke it!


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