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Name: Elizabeth Stewart
Date: December 9, 2005 at 19:53:51 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: Pentium 3 1GB RAM
Comment:

Piece of junk CPU but it was free!Turned on the CPU and I got the Primary Hard Disk Failure message. I noticed that the Cpu had been crashing alot lately.
I had googled the message and tried this suggestion: I tried to isolate the problem.
I could hear the drive spinning so I took it and put it in another CPU I had as a slave. I was really concerened about the lost data on it. The drive does work in the cpu now - at least I didn't lose my pictures. So now I am back to the broken CPU. I put another HD in it that was a secondary formatted HD with a few things on it. Now I am getting the Disk Boot Failure Insert Systen Disk. Is this situation indicitive of a problem with the CPU since the "broken" drive actually is working?
Am I getting the Disk Boot Failure message now because th drive was formatted but no OS installed? If yes what disk do I put in? I was given this CPU and have the Windows XP CD and my old emergency floppy for I think Windows 98 that I think I might have used when it was given to me dead. Does any of this make sense?




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Response Number 1
Name: masterofnone
Date: December 9, 2005 at 22:08:04 Pacific
Reply:

Dude..try the following areas

A)Go to BIOS and see what is listed

B)Reseat all cables and connectors

C)Use propably a different power rail for HD

D)Try to use different IDE cables

E)Go to BIOS and check the option "LOAD OPTIMIZED DEFUALTS" or "LOAD DEFAULTS".

F)Try to disconnect CDROM,Floppy drive ,CDRW etc.

G)Try to move the RAM from one slot to the other

H)Try the hard disk in both IDE slots i.e both primary as well as secondary.Make sure that this is only connected to the IDE slots and nothing else

I)Maybe motherboard is screwes :-s

J)I don't give a full "GO" for this advice,but changing the RAMS would do some good

Hope the following areas will help you out.

Take care.Post your reply


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Response Number 2
Name: masterofnone
Date: December 9, 2005 at 22:10:16 Pacific
Reply:

Adding for pointer A)Go to BIOS and see what is listed in the hard disk section.Check whether hard disk is detected or not.



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Response Number 3
Name: Richard59
Date: December 9, 2005 at 23:44:34 Pacific
Reply:

If you put a formatted drive in that has only a few data files and no operating system then of course you get the "Insert a system disk" error message. The PC is looking for a boot record and there isn't one.
Go into BIOS. Make sure boot order is set to CD first. Boot up the XP CD and instal the operating system. You will need the licence key that goes with the disk. Hope you got that with the rest of the system.

And for future reference the term CPU usually referrs to the actual Processor chip on the motherboard. If you are talking about the system call it a System or a PC.


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Response Number 4
Name: Elizabeth Stewart
Date: December 10, 2005 at 05:50:12 Pacific
Reply:

I used Auto Detect in the BIOS and the new HD is not showing up either. Could this mean a faulty cable or? Thanks Richard59 for your correction. I guess that is why I am asking for help because I am only semi-knowledgable! Thanks in advance for any ideas!


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Response Number 5
Name: Chuck 2
Date: December 10, 2005 at 07:16:22 Pacific
Reply:

Is the tiny jumper on the HDD in the correct position ?? I think it should be in the Master position for BIOS to detect it.


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Response Number 6
Name: GX1 Man
Date: December 10, 2005 at 09:26:17 Pacific
Reply:

I was wondering how he got all of that stuff done inside his CPU. I could never work inside a chip.


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Response Number 7
Name: snoopy
Date: December 10, 2005 at 12:01:52 Pacific
Reply:

You could try the Ultimate Boot CD for Windows [UBCD4Win] which can be built for free [see UBCD4Win.com for details], or a copy can be had for around $6.
See www.ubcd4win.com for details.
The Ultimate Boot CD [different from UBCD4Win] is also highly recommended. Available from same chap as UBCD4Win CD.
This offers a wide range of freeware tools which can help diagnose problems and fix many. You can boot the PC from the UBCD4Win and extract the data from your HDD, assuming you have two optical drives.

From your description of the symptoms it is possible that the MBR [Master Boot Record] for your original HDD has been screwed-up. The Secondary HDD is probably giving the same message because there is no OS on it. UBCD4Win will enable you to fix the MBR problem.
Good Luck,
Snoopy

PS I do not benefit in any way from the sales of these CDs!


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Response Number 8
Name: Elizabeth Stewart
Date: December 10, 2005 at 16:36:25 Pacific
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I changed a cable and now my BIOS is recognizing the HD but it says Disk Boot Failure Insert System Disk. I know theOS is still on it because I saw it when I installes the HD on my other System. Will my WIndows Xp CD restore? Do I change the boot order in the BIOS for anything? I am getting frustrated because I don't understand why it is doing this.


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Response Number 9
Name: ccfrank
Date: December 12, 2005 at 11:57:06 Pacific
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if you installed the OS on one system then installed the HD on another system it won't boot because there are differences in the hardware on the two systems.

you need to boot to the XP cd and go on as if you were going to re-install xp.

when you get to the second screen it will give you the option to go to repair console and do a repair. DO This!

best of luck Frank :


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