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Files corrupt when copied from CD to HD

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Name: Jack
Date: July 10, 2002 at 07:15:43 Pacific
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When I copy files (especially executable ones) from the backup CD I made prior to XP installation to the HD, they often become currupt and unusable (at least that what XP tells me). However, they run fine off the CD itself so it seems the problem is in the copying process.

Has anyone heard of this problem in XP? I could have sworn I read about something like this when reseaching my decision to upgrade to XP, and that it may require a driver/patch of some sort, but I can't find the web page again. Thnaks for any help.



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Response Number 1
Name: Chuck
Date: July 10, 2002 at 08:11:55 Pacific
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How to prepare to Upgrade Windows98 and Windows ME to Windows XP:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639


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Response Number 2
Name: Jack
Date: July 10, 2002 at 08:30:00 Pacific
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I think I didn't explain the problem correctly. My problem isn't with installation, XP was sucessfully installed to my machine, there were no errors in the install file copying.

The problem occurs now that XP is up and running when I try to copy files (just regular old files, but usually exectutable ones) from a CD to the HD in WinXP. For some reason, many of the files I copy become corrupt somewhere during to copy process. I can run or open them from the CD with no error, but when I copy them to the HD and try to access them, XP tells me that they are corrupt.


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Response Number 3
Name: roamingphantom
Date: July 10, 2002 at 09:20:46 Pacific
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get a cd extractor that should fix your prob. Using a CDextractor will make digital copies of files onto your HD from the CD.


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Response Number 4
Name: tropic
Date: July 10, 2002 at 10:16:15 Pacific
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I'd like to know a little more about your system, Jack . . . especially the following:

What chipset does your motherboard use?
What brand/type of RAM do you have?
Do you use an SB Live! soundcard or another PCI device incapable of sharing hardware IRQs?
Is XP installed on a third-party RAID or IDE controller?

My gut feeling is that you have a bit of device contention on your PCI bus, but I'd like to know more about your setup before I go out on a limb. Let us know . . . someone will probably have a solution for you.


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Response Number 5
Name: Andy
Date: July 10, 2002 at 11:17:58 Pacific
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If you are getting file corruption when transferring from CD to HD I would check the transfer mode you have selected from within the bios for the IDE device... try to force PIO mode and see if the corruption still exists.... also you can modify the transfer mode from within the XP device manager... go to atapi/ ide devices


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Response Number 6
Name: Jack
Date: July 10, 2002 at 12:40:44 Pacific
Reply:

Tropic,

Off the top of my head, I have an Abit KT7A mother board with a VIA (don't remember which) chipset and a 800mhz AMD processor. I think the RAM is Crucial (128 MB, I believe). Yes, I do have a SB Live soundcard. I'm not sure which IRQ it is taking, but it is currently in PCI Slot 5. Since I don't think this motherboard has RAID, I think it is an IDE controller.

I didn't have this problem when using WinME, and all cards are in the same slots, but I don't know if XP is assigning IRQs differently. I manually assigned IRQs in ME in order to get a USB printer to work, so maybe I accidentily avoided the problem then. I have some open slots, so maybe I will try to move to SB Live card to see what happens (if thats the conflict you are suspecting). I will also try changing the transfer mode as Andy suggested.

I guess Windows still can't get the PnP and IRQ thing foolproof. Its the only thing I prefer about the Mac.


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Response Number 7
Name: tropic
Date: July 10, 2002 at 14:20:57 Pacific
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Jack, take a look here: http://www.viahardware.com/686b_1.shtm
http://alive.singnet.com.sg/tech/via.htm
http://www.viahardware.com/686bfaq.shtm

I would completely remove the SB Live! card and try some large (over 100MB) file transfers from CD to hard drive to see if that was the culprit. Everyone has heard of the dreaded 686b + SBLive! combo, but I've never actually seen the phenomenon in person. The webpages above contain workarounds for data corruption issue; there's a good chance that's what's wrong on your system. Latency patches and pagan sacrifice aside, the surest way to stop the problem seems to be replacing the SBLive! with a different soundcard, i.e., the Santa Cruz from Turtle Beach, the SBLive! 5.1 (which doesn't have the data corruption bug), etc.

Sidenote (other possibility): I have an Abit KG7-RAID (VIA 686b southbridge) and an SBLive! card, and I went through a period where large files transfered from CD-ROM to HDD (or one HDD to another) ran a 50% chance of corrupting. My system config files also corrupted every few reboots. I immediately (and incorrectly) blamed the soundcard & VIA southbridge. It was actually the HPT370 RAID driver--XP's default driver caused data corruption when transferring files over the IDE channels, and that's why it was a crapshoot just getting XP installed in the first place. If you have no 3rd-party HDD controller, though, I'd guess this couldn't be the problem. If you DO have a RAID controller, try updating the WinXP RAID driver; then reboot and flash to the newest HPT BIOS before starting Windows again.

BTW, here's a great place to get practical help with any and all things relating to your motherboard: http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm

Please let us know if this huge post of mine helped at all. At least I think I was able to point you in the right direction.


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