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Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 07:44:53 Pacific
OS: WinXP Pro
Product: Dell Latitude
Comment:

I have a Dell latitude D505 laptop running WinXP Pro.
My ISP is waitrose.com and I'm using a D-Link DSL-G624T wireless router.

When I first set this router up with the waitrose broadband I had trouble accessing the internet. I was told to change settings in the TCP/IP properties for the network connection. I changed it from "obtain DNS server automatically" to "use the following DNS server addresses:" 80.189.94.2 and 80.189.92.2. This works fine, I can access the internet with these settings.

BUT, everytime I go somewhere else (eg someone else's house) and try to access internet there I have to change the settings back to "obtain DNS server automatically", otherwise I can't use their internet. When I get back home I have to reset it again to the above DNS address otherwise mine won't work. (This is the same for both the wireless and the ethernet connections).

This is really annoying and I'd like to leave it on the automatic setting all the time. I've been told by Waitrose tech support that the automatic setting should work ok. Also if another computer accesses the internet from my home, using my router, my ISP etc, they do NOT have to change the DNS settings, they can leave it on automatic and it works ok.

So what's going on? Is there something wrong with my computer?
Please help!
Thanks




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Response Number 1
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 23, 2008 at 08:10:02 Pacific
Reply:

If you leave it on obtain auto, what does it give you for DNS servers? Do an ipconfig /all in a command prompt and post the output.

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Response Number 2
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 08:39:23 Pacific
Reply:

OK, I changed it to auto, then I got this info a different way to ipconfig /all, but I think it gives the same info:
IP Address: 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server: 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained: 23/01/2008 16:19:08
Lease Expires: 23/01/2008 17:19:08
DNS Server: 192.168.1.1
WINS Server:

When it's working it gives this info:
IP Address: 192.168.1.4
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server: 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained: 23/01/2008 16:27:21
Lease Expires: 23/01/2008 17:27:21
DNS Servers: 80.189.94.2, 80.189.92.2
WINS Server:

(To save me time changing the settings back and forth I've put the auto settings on the wireless connection and the forced DNS settings on the network card. I've now disabled the wireless and am using network card with cable plugged in to access the internet).

NB If I go to the router it says the DNS servers are 80.189.94.2 and 80.189.92.2.



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Response Number 3
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 23, 2008 at 08:47:01 Pacific
Reply:

That should work, the router acts as your DNS server and just fwd's it thru to the 80.189.94.2 and 80.189.92.2. I don't know why it wouldn't work on your computer but others that use your LAN it does.

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Response Number 4
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 09:05:00 Pacific
Reply:

Oh that's a shame.
The tech support at Waitrose didn't know either, and said it's a problem with my computer (which is right I guess as other computers work ok).
Thanks for trying anyway.

If anyone else can help me with this I'd be very grateful. Thanks very much.

PS One other thing that could be releveant: the computer has real problems working if I try the auto setting, it has problems sometimes even getting into IE, and often hangs. Don't know if this is relevant or not.


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Response Number 5
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 23, 2008 at 09:29:52 Pacific
Reply:

You could try ripping out the tcp/ip protocol stack and reinstalling it. Don't know if that will do ya much good though.

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Response Number 6
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 09:43:20 Pacific
Reply:

What do you mean, how do I do that?

I have cleared the tcp/ip settings (I think that's what this does...) by going to Start/Run: netsh int ip reset resetlog.txt
This got rid of the DNS server settings (and other things I guess), this didn't work, and I had to put the DNS server addresses back in again for the internet to work. Is this what you mean, or is it something else?


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Response Number 7
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 23, 2008 at 09:53:57 Pacific
Reply:

Is it only the wireless connection that you have to hard set the DNS servers, or do you have to with a cat5 connection too?

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Response Number 8
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 09:58:00 Pacific
Reply:

I have to do it with both the wireless and the LAN connection.


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Response Number 9
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 23, 2008 at 10:02:25 Pacific
Reply:

Any firewalls/antivirus on your pc? I've seen Norton block DNS before, not supposed to, but it was a glitch in the software.

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Response Number 10
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 10:48:12 Pacific
Reply:

I disabled WinXP firewall, and disabled AVG anti-virus and tried it after that. It still didn't work, so problem is obviously not firewall or anti-virus.

Interestly it looks as if it will access the internet ok at first - it seems to open the first page, or at least part of it, but then it hangs and then hangs the whole computer so I can hardly do anything, in the end I have to force it to shutdown and restart.


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Response Number 11
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 23, 2008 at 11:01:27 Pacific
Reply:

What happens if you bypass the router and plug in directly to the internet?

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Response Number 12
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 23, 2008 at 16:11:24 Pacific
Reply:

Um.. how do I do that?
Don't I need an ADSL modem? Before I had the router I had a Speedtouch modem. I don't think I can plug directly to the internet with my standard modem... can I?


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Response Number 13
Name: buckethead (by coleg)
Date: January 24, 2008 at 07:26:12 Pacific
Reply:

Dont you have a Cat5 cable plugged into the WAN port of your router? If so plug that into your pc directly.

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Response Number 14
Name: BcpFizz
Date: January 24, 2008 at 16:06:10 Pacific
Reply:

I think a Cat5 cable is an Ethernet cable which is used for networking etc. The router is a wireless ADSL Router a modem router, called D-Link Router DSL-G624T (www.dlink.co.uk/?go=gNTyP9CgrdFOIC4AStFCF834mptYKO9ZTdvhLPG3yV3oVo5+hKltbNlwaaFp7DQtFzrqyCJG948BANfh). When I'm using the router wirelessly I just have two cables plugged into it: the power cable and the telephone cable which plugs into the ADSL port at the back. If I connect via ethernet I plug the ethernet cable into the back of my laptop and into the back of the router.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to link up to broadband without the router. I'm in the UK, I don't know if the setup is different from yours wherever you are.

I'm going to be away all next week and am very busy tomorrow so may not be able to pursue this for a while, so if you reply I won't be able reply back for a week or so.
Thanks for all your help in the meantime.


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