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Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: April 11, 2004 at 06:50:23 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 1.7Ghz Celeron 512Mb Ram
Comment:

I see people all the time on this forum looking for a way to disable the infamous Windows Messenger. Well here it is. This will disable Windows Messenger NOT MSN Messenger.

Start > Run gpedit.msc

User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Messanger
Double click on both settings on the right and set them to enabled.

Cheers!

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Wesley Johnson



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Response Number 1
Name: soothsayer
Date: April 11, 2004 at 07:51:29 Pacific
Reply:

(Just for curiousity)

What's the difference between Windows Messenger and MSN messenger anyway ? I see Windows Messenger acted the same like MSN and readily provided so you don't need to download MSN Messenger. So what made people don't like Windows Messenger


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Response Number 2
Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: April 11, 2004 at 08:09:08 Pacific
Reply:

Windows Messenger is meant for networking so that a system's administrator can send out message's to everyone on a network at one time. These message's pop up in a little grey box on your screen. The problem is that spammers, advertisers and porn sites, figured out that they could also send messages's to anyone who had Windows Messenger running, whether they were on the network or not. My main problem with it is that it is a serious security problem in that it allows a remote user access to your system. MSN Messenger is just a chat client to allow friends to talk in real time over the internet. Though it is not without certain security risk either. Hope this helps clear the differences between the two up.

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Response Number 3
Name: Darknebula
Date: April 11, 2004 at 09:11:45 Pacific
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Thank god for that finally peace from the dreaded messenger. If I wanted to be seen online I would but I don't.

Great Tip, thanks for the heads up


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Response Number 4
Name: Nigel Spike
Date: April 11, 2004 at 12:18:53 Pacific
Reply:

Wesley you are a bit wrong there. Both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger are chat clients. It is the service Messenger, found under Adminstrative Tools-> Services that is made for administrators to send messages via the Netsend command to network users.

Nigel


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Response Number 5
Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: April 11, 2004 at 13:58:12 Pacific
Reply:

Which use's Windows Messenger as a vehicle to comunicate.

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Response Number 6
Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: April 11, 2004 at 14:23:12 Pacific
Reply:

Nigel,
You are right and I guess I wasn't really clear on the fact that they are both chat clients. But, I can assure you the Messenger service, in Services, that you are speaking of, use's the Windows Messenger Service as a vehicle, as I have already been over this with a Microsoft representative. Here is some more reading on the subject.


http://news.com.com/2100-7355_3-5096882.html

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Response Number 7
Name: Rambler
Date: April 11, 2004 at 16:14:02 Pacific
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Policy editor isn't needed. Just set Messenger service to Startup Type = Disabled in Admin Tools/Services. (Or right-click My Computer/Manage/Services)

Expert: someone who reads the manual when no-one's looking


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Response Number 8
Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: April 11, 2004 at 21:09:16 Pacific
Reply:

Rambler,
You are also correct, however, this fix will stop XP from restarting the messenger service the next time you install something, which includes Windows Messenger. i.e. Windows Updates, Outlook, and almost all Microsoft office products will reinstall and start the Messenger service again, if this fix is not in place.

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Response Number 9
Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: April 11, 2004 at 21:10:23 Pacific
Reply:

Rambler,
You are also correct, however, this fix will stop XP from restarting the messenger service the next time you install something, which includes Windows Messenger. i.e. Windows Updates, Outlook, and almost all Microsoft office products will reinstall and start the Messenger service again, if this fix is not in place.

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Wesley Johnson


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Response Number 10
Name: Krystyna
Date: April 11, 2004 at 21:21:04 Pacific
Reply:

Some more info here, plus a tiny download to "Shoot the Messenger"

http://grc.com/stm/ShootTheMessenger.htm

Krystyna

Make every day count. We are not living in eternity. We only have this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand, then melting like a snowflake.


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Response Number 11
Name: Rambler
Date: April 12, 2004 at 00:31:43 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Wesley - I disn't know that. It doesn't happen on W2000 that way. Why on earth did MS implement it like that on XP? Must be a real pain.

Despite what grc.com implies, it's not a security issue, just an annoyance.

Expert: someone who reads the manual when no-one's looking


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Response Number 12
Name: Nigel Spike
Date: April 13, 2004 at 00:57:36 Pacific
Reply:

Wesley,
thanks for your input, but the article doesn't convince me that Windows Messenger is used as a vehicle to communice the Netsend command. Also a lot of users claim to have received pop-up ads through the Messenger Service after having uninstalled Windows Messenger.

Do you have any reference to where this is specificallly stated?

Nigel


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Response Number 13
Name: wesley_johnson66
Date: May 9, 2004 at 18:19:01 Pacific
Reply:

Nigel,
I honestly don't care what you believe. I talked, personally, to a Microsoft Rep. when Longhorn PDC was released and he told me this. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, as I could really care less if you believe it or not.

Here is a MICROSOFT PAGE, you know the guy's who MAKE XP. That clearly state's, disabling the Messenger Service in Windows XP will stop any NETSEND commands from being received on that PC. If NETSEND doesn't use Windows Messenger, then exactly why would disabling Windows Messenger, Stop NETSEND from working. I rest my case.

Wesley

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330904

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