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Defragging a waste of time?

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Name: aegis
Date: May 13, 2008 at 12:56:18 Pacific
OS: XP Home
CPU/Ram: AMD Athlon 64 3.8/2gb
Product: Generic
Comment:

"Don't waste your money or time"
"Disk defragmentation did nothing to improve the performance of our machine."

PC Magazine, June 2008 issue, page 62



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Response Number 1
Name: chrismr
Date: May 13, 2008 at 13:37:32 Pacific
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I disagree... it will speed up your PC.. but I don't thing the average user will notice the difference


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Response Number 2
Name: aegis
Date: May 13, 2008 at 13:54:19 Pacific
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They made several defrag tests and did benchmarks before and after each one.


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Response Number 3
Name: per
Date: May 13, 2008 at 14:14:56 Pacific
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Everyone has an opinion, like you know what else.


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Response Number 4
Name: jefro
Date: May 13, 2008 at 14:28:47 Pacific
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Defrag is not exactly the same as norton's speed disk. What MS used to say was every week you would use backup and restore. When you backed the disk the files were put in contiguous blocks. Then the restore would put them at the front of the drive. The front of the drive worked better for old fat drives. Not sure it is as useful now on ntfs formats and defrag doesn't move all the files or even puts them in order of possible use.

"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, are in my top 10


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Response Number 5
Name: wanderer
Date: May 13, 2008 at 14:45:41 Pacific
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If ntfs don't defrag and see what happens. You will end up with a machine you can't fix so your only option is wipe and reload.

I fixed a womans server that a tech said needed to be replaced at $5000 and all it needed was a defrag.

Look on the web for ntldr not found. MOST are due to not defragging and ntldr ended up past the 1024 boot limit.

That same mag had an article where the author said raid 0+1 was the same as raid 10. Anyone who knows raid knows better.

Moral of the story is don't believe everything you see in print, the TV, Billboards or on the web.

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Response Number 6
Name: JackDog
Date: May 13, 2008 at 15:29:30 Pacific
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an interesting read......

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Response Number 7
Name: kx5m2g
Date: May 13, 2008 at 15:30:46 Pacific
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Even the average user will notice the difference if the disk is severely fragmented. I question PC Magazine's overall recommendation.


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Response Number 8
Name: Dumbob
Date: May 13, 2008 at 21:56:17 Pacific
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Could it be that PC Magazine was referring to third Party Defrag not being worth the time or Cost?


"Don't waste your Money or time"

Makes sense when you consider XP comes with a perfectly good Defrag tool.

No, I don't have the Mag to read the article.

There is nothing to learn from someone who already agrees with you.


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Response Number 9
Name: Sci-Guy
Date: May 14, 2008 at 01:16:52 Pacific
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It's hard to comment on a couple of quotes from an article, without knowing the context in which the remarks were made.

As pointed out above, this article may have been referring to a third-party defrag tool.

Just how fragmented were the files, in the first place?

In my opinion, giving us just a couple quotes is irresponsible. If these quotes are taken out of context, the reputation of the magazine in question may be damaged.

Please let us know if you found someone's advice to be helpful.


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Response Number 10
Name: Ewen
Date: May 14, 2008 at 03:05:06 Pacific
Reply:

Well said!

Once I thought I was wrong, now I'm not so sure!


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Response Number 11
Name: OtheHill
Date: May 14, 2008 at 06:55:07 Pacific
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It doesn't appear the current issue can be accessed online. The latest issue is April 2008.


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Response Number 12
Name: aegis
Date: May 14, 2008 at 12:21:55 Pacific
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I didn't get to read the whole article and I neglected to mention that the tests were done on Vista. But I don't know why that should make a difference.

Anyway, they tested four defraggers (Vista's, Auslogic's, Diskeeper's and Perfect Disk 2008). The before and after benchmarks (PCMark) showed that Vista's was the only one that showed any improvement at all on the benchmark test. I do remember that they all showed a pretty good improvement in the boot up time, which was the other test they made.


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Response Number 13
Name: suatcini
Date: May 15, 2008 at 02:07:13 Pacific
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My habit of defragmenting the OS partition is, after OS installs, after SP installs, after large program installs ( such as 500 MB programs ), etc..

Other than this, I usually do not defrag.

Regards

SuatCINI


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Response Number 14
Name: kx5m2g
Date: May 15, 2008 at 07:27:34 Pacific
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Just a clarification on Aegis' post: The article appeared in Maximum PC Magazine, June 2008 issue. It also says, on page, page 62, that "we must note that our test drive was not terribly fragmented to begin with due to Vista's auto-defragger running on our test bed."


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