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Name: ed
Date: August 7, 2002 at 15:48:14 Pacific
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Can someone tell me why when creating a image of a harddrive im getting that I have 10.65gb used on my harddrive but the image is only going to take 5.33gbs. I was under the impression that a image was exactly what you have on your harddrive. In essense two harddrives with the same thing on them. Is that not the case?



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Response Number 1
Name: Kinel
Date: August 7, 2002 at 16:02:55 Pacific
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What proggy are you using for imaging.

If you're using Norton Ghost to image with compression it will reduce by up to 60%.

Cloning produces a direct byte for byte image.


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Response Number 2
Name: Huey
Date: August 7, 2002 at 16:09:49 Pacific
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Depending on which software you're using you must have it set to use compression which saves on disk space. I use Drive Image 2002 which can compress the image to 50% of the original size.


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Response Number 3
Name: ed
Date: August 7, 2002 at 17:57:24 Pacific
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I guess what I really wont to know is, is there anyway possible to get a second harddrive identical as the one in my computer. That way if this harddrive blows up and I go get the one that has the backup on it and put it in the computer and turn it on, it be just like nothing at all has happened to my computer? Also what is the differance between a image and a copy.


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Response Number 4
Name: Keith
Date: August 7, 2002 at 18:33:38 Pacific
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Again, what program are you using? I use Partition Magic. With Partition Magic (and I presume Norton Ghost), the 2nd drive WILL be identical after you restore the image. But these programs also allow you to compress the image to save space. When you restore an image, the program then uncompresses the image for a bit by bit restoration.

You should WAIT to restore the image to the new hard drive until after you install it. You will make many changes to your computer before the old hard drive "blows up". I make a new image of mine every 2 to 3 weeks.

Copy vs image?? Here's the differnece. An image stores the drive "copy" to a file to allow you to save it to CDs, like a backup. COPY puts the exact hardrive duplicate DIRECTLY to another hard drive (uncompressed) without intermediate storage. COPY is usually used when you replace your old hard drive with a new. But both drives must be working for COPY to work.


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Response Number 5
Name: Keith
Date: August 7, 2002 at 18:35:45 Pacific
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Again, what program are you using? I use Partition Magic. With Partition Magic (and I presume Norton Ghost), the 2nd drive WILL be identical after you restore the image. But these programs also allow you to compress the image to save space. When you restore an image, the program then uncompresses the image for a bit by bit restoration.

You should WAIT to restore the image to the new hard drive until after you install it. You will make many changes to your computer before the old hard drive "blows up". I make a new image of mine every 2 to 3 weeks.

Copy vs image?? Here's the differnece. An image stores the drive "copy" to a file to allow you to save it to CDs, like a backup. COPY puts the exact hardrive duplicate DIRECTLY to another hard drive (uncompressed) without intermediate storage. COPY is usually used when you replace your old hard drive with a new. But both drives must be working for COPY to work.


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Response Number 6
Name: ed
Date: August 7, 2002 at 18:55:30 Pacific
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Using ghost. Sounds like copy is what Im wanting then. I wont to be able to copy this drive to another and put it on the shelf and then sometime in the future should the need arise put it in the computer and boot up to it just like the one I have now.


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Response Number 7
Name: justin
Date: August 7, 2002 at 22:01:59 Pacific
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ghost allows for what you describe wanting, however it is not an idea situation. ghost is designed to store an image so that you can reimage if things go wrong later, or so that you can mass distribute the same image to numerous machines. In your situation what you should do is create the image, reimage another drive (it will have to be identical and will only run on an identical machine - ie you can't throw it in your mates pc and have it work), and then you've got what you want.

do you have a legit copy of ghost with all the documentation?


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Response Number 8
Name: Kinel
Date: August 7, 2002 at 23:01:45 Pacific
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Copying or more corrctly, Cloning, one drive to another is just as valid as imaging. The big difference is that Cloning will make an exact copy of a drive including any partitions you may have defined so if had say had a drive split into 3 partitions Cloning would recreate those partitions on the second drive automatically.

The drives do not necessarily have to be the same make or size but obviously the target drive must be at least as big as the total amount of data on the source. I must admit haven't done this very often or recently but I seem to remember that Ghost invites you to declare the target partition sizes so you could Clone to a smaller drive.

Imaging from the same drive will invite you to chose which partition you wanted to image then on restore would ask for a destination so you could for instance create an image of say C:\ and then restore it to D:\ (don't expect XP to actually boot up and run from D:\ though !).

Like others here I image my C:\ drive on a regular basis but simply backup (copy) the stuff on my other partitions to my second HD.

One final point:

Although Ghost can image any type of partition, FAT, NTFS, Linux et. you MUST have a FAT or FAT32 drive to write the image to.

A very good tutorial for Ghost can be found here.

http://ghost.radified.com/



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Response Number 9
Name: ed
Date: August 8, 2002 at 04:51:47 Pacific
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My mate does and its his puter we doing. Thanks for the replys.


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Response Number 10
Name: ed
Date: August 8, 2002 at 06:05:37 Pacific
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Their documentation is not always clear to understand. Some folks can put things in writing better than others.


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