Another suggestion is to let us know the manufactor or bios manufactor and MOBO id info. best of luck Frank :

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ok the manufacture of the system is Intel i think "emachines", that is all i know for now.

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when i boot it up, the screen blanks and than stayes dark, floppy makes booting noise, and than stopes, that is all.

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I just asked if you were seeing ANYTHING on the monitor and I see now that you are not. Can you try a floppy boot disk and see what you get? Musky If the voices inside my head paid rent, I'd be rich!

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can't do that cause i don't have any floppy disketts available....sorry

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Some OEM manufacturer's put a small hidden BIOS partition on the HDD. When the drive was formatted, you may have lost it. The 1st thing you have to tell us is the make/model of the PC. Saying that you 'think' it's an eMachine certainly doesn't help us to help you. How did you go about formatting the drive in the 1st place? It should have been done by booting off the XP CD.

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Do you have a "Floppy disk drive"? You said you "don't have any floppy disketts available" Does this mean no blank disks, or no floppy drive? Musky If the voices inside my head paid rent, I'd be rich!

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ok, guys, as far as i understood, when i boot up pc, its' floppy drive checkes for diskett, which is not there because i don't have one, and can't make one since my system isn't working and i am using notebook without floppy drive. So, since PC is checking for ploppy drive, i think when i will boot it with a floppy diskett, it must start, and only then i can chose which CD drive to use, and will install WinXP from that CD, am i right?

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Basically, yes. You'll need a Win98 or above "startup" disk, when you can download from bootdisk.com. The choose "start computer with CD Rom support". When it's finished and you see the drive letter for your CD (usually E) type E: and hit enter, Then at the E: prompt, type: CD\I386 At the E:I386\ prompt, type in Winnt. This should start the XP installation. Musky If the voices inside my head paid rent, I'd be rich!

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The XP CD is bootable...there are no floppies required. There is an XP boot disk 'set' that consists of 6 floppies. But you didn't answer my question(s)...how did you go about formatting the hard drive in the 1st place & what is the exact make/model of the PC you're working on??

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One correction, when you type to change directories, type it with a space, like this: E:\cd \I386 There may be other typos in my last post, I'm sure others will point them out if there are :) Musky If the voices inside my head paid rent, I'd be rich!

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The problem is that he can't access BIOS to change the boot order to boot from the CD Rom drive. And he said that he formatted by putting the Windows disk in and telling it to format (which I don't really understand how he did that) See his post number 3 Musky If the voices inside my head paid rent, I'd be rich!

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myrchik, have you tried pressing any of the keys the other folks have recommended? If a fast boot option is enabled, you won't see anything like Press F2 to enter setup. You just need to boot the machine and try the keys to see if you can get into the BIOS. Life is more painless for those who are brainless.

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You know what? I am wondering why is it so hard for him to try hitting "Del" or "F2" when booting up and see if he can get into the bios. Try that first, and if he is kind enough to tell us the manufacturer of the computer, that will be a lot easier.

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ok, that was like this: i was working on a normal pc, with winXP on it, but it was very slow, so my friend asked me to format it. What i did: 1.as the system was running i inserted WinXP CD in to the drive, the blue window appeared, saying Windows XP installation, and stuff like that. 2.I choose install new copy of WinXP, it than asked me if i would like to install a new copy over the old one, and keep some files, or i want to completely delete everything from drive C and install a new copy, i pressed "new copy" 3. That is all i did. i hope i have answered your question. Thanks.

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guys, i have no idea what is the manufacture of the PC, i took it appart, and on the mother board it says INTEL, but it might be chipset, that is all i can see on the MB Second of all, i already said that i can't see any boot sequence, and even when i press F1, F2, F11, Del nothing happens.

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I know, what has been done is not important at least at this point. We want to help you so that you can go into the bios to change the boot order and boot from the CD for a new installation. We gave you the options to try, but why are you not trying? Try that first and let us know how it goes? Also, what is the make of your computer? Dell? Sony? Custom built?

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From the moment you turn on your computer, can you tell us screen by screen what you see? Or is it just blank/black? You need to look at the outside of the case to find out what is the brand name of the computer. It says right there "DELL" if it is Dell

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1.Ok, i will go to diskboot.com and will try to make booting CD, i hope it will help. 2.i think it is not custom built...everywhere on the mashne it says "Emachines" And i do appresiate your help guys...and i am here with you, we are working together.

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Dude, when you're working on a car, you need to know whether it's a Ford or Chevy or Honda, etc because each manufacturer does things differently. So far, you haven't told us the make/model of the PC. Like I said in response #12, some OEM manufacturers put a small hidden BIOS partition on the hard drive....if you erased it when you formatted, you're not gonna get anything to display on the screen until you reinstall it. This is strictly a guess & may not be the problem at all...but until you come up with the make/model of the PC you're working on, no one can say for sure either way. But IMO, you're in way over your head....

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Ok, it says "Emachines" and yes it is black/blank, but i can see that the screen is alive, because it blanks sort of..you know what i mean, there is darker black, and softer black that is when they change from one to another, it looks like it is blinking.

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OK, you're sure it's an eMachine? Find the model number...

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Ok, what can i do, if it doesn't say who built it, the only thing on the PC it says "Emachines" that is it!!! but i have a different question now, if i will go to diskboot.com and will make a boot CD,not floppy, will it work? I think it won't, and you? Or should i try to make that boot CD?

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If you can get it to boot from a floppy boot to this and try it. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Test...

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You don't need a bootdisk or bootable CD...it's not gonna help. Besides, the XP CD is bootable!

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ok, than what do i do? When i insert XP CD that is bootable, it doesn't do anything at all, the screen is black, nothing happens before it, and after it....so, what now?

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Try this, when the computer is on with the black screen showing: Eject the CD tray Insert the XP CD in the tray and close it. Hit Ctrl + Alt + Del to restart See if it will boot from the CD Also, check to see if there is any floppy disk in the floppy drive. It is just wierd that it sits there with a black screen upon startup.

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i have done it already many times, and nothing happend...everytime i restart it same thing happens. no floppy in the floppy drive.

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can someone tell me the link to that bootdisk.com, what i mean is that i don't know which boot file to install, can you send me link please.

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Try one more thing. Shut down yoour computer completely. Press the power button to turn it on. Immediately, press and hold ("F2, DEL, F11, F5) keys simultaneously. Do not let go until it beeps like crazy, and see what happen

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Go to http://bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm Then scroll down to "Windows XP 6 Disk Setup Set" section to download. Look for: "XP Quick Boot Diskette xpquick.zip | xpquick.exe | Read.1st"

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i tried to do that, but nothing happend, no beeping at all. After i restarted the system, and it check floppy like it usually checks when you start up any other system...so i think i need bootable floppy diskett, or CD, so please give me the link where i can download, and install bootable CD

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Try my post #30. It is a bootable utility disk.

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Windows XP cd IS indeed a BOOTABLE CD. Since it is not booting off the CD, then you need to make 6 bootable floppy disks. My previous post listed the link. Good luck.

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ok, i found that

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Windows XP cd IS indeed a BOOTABLE CD. Since it is not booting off the CD, then you need to make 6 bootable floppy disks. My previous post listed the link. Good luck.

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A bootable CD is NOT gonna do you any good! The XP CD IS bootable...if the PC won't boot off the XP CD, it's not gonna boot off any other boot CD!! And there's no point creating the 6 boot floppy set for XP because I highly doubt it's gonna work. If you must test this boot floppy theory, either try the 'test disk' link in response #30, or create a single Win98 boot floppy from bootdisk.com. I have a feeling there's something you're leaving out of your description of what you tried. Did you open the case? Did you move any jumpers? Did you mess with anything inside the case at all??

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Wait and see, this discussion will have more than 100 entries, lol

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yes i oppend the case, but just to look for the name of that pc, and it didn't work before that so, i didn't do anything bad...more than that, i know about computers, not of course as much as you do, but i know what jumpers are, and that i can't move them...bla bla bla... ;)

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OK...I went back & reread the early responses...in #3 you wrote: "i had previous WinXP installed, i inserted a WinXP CD and it asked me what do i want to do, i pressed that i want to install a new WinXP...than it rebooted itself, and stopped or something like that, i don't remember, then i reseted the system" You doesn't appear that your formatted the drive at all. You can not format the drive from Windows...it has to be done from a boot floppy or boot CD.

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Yes, it is very nice, i mean the descussion, but my PC isn't working...anyway guys, it is very nice to have you here helping me...it is too late now, i am going to bed. Tomorrow i will make booddiskett and then will see, i will write back tomorrow what have i achived, cause i think you would like to see the result of our common work ;) Take care and see you tomorrow... P.S. this is the first time i see that people halp here so much, i mean i had questions before but usually i was getting like 2-8 answers, and now i got :) sooooooo many...! hopefully it will help.

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Too late? Where are you by the way? If you dont mind.

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Yes, Jam. maybe you are right, but even if i didn't formatted it, it still changed the order in which it was booting up. This is not the first time i am reinstalling winXP, and beleave me this is the first time i am having such a problem. So i think it changed the boot sequence, and somewhy it checks for floppy and stoppes...looks like it waits for bootdisk that i will give to it :)

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i am in Ukraine,Lviv. Western part of Ukraine close to Poland,Romania,Hungary. Well, it is not too late, but i am tired and it is 23:00...so good night, and see you tomorrow.

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"even if i didn't formatted it, it still changed the order in which it was booting up" You cannot change the boot sequence without accessing the BIOS. Formatting (which I doubt you actually did) will not change the boot order. "i think it changed the boot sequence, and somewhy it checks for floppy and stoppes...looks like it waits for bootdisk that i will give to it :)" You *should* be getting some sort of display on the screen...at least the eMachines splash screen, which probably looks like this: http://www.sd-dream.com/pasocompass... Since you say you know about PCs, try opening the case & temporarily disconnecting the hard drive, then try to boot.

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Ok, guys, i am back in bussiness, not sure if you are awake already, since it is 5-6 am in USA...but anyway, i got some results, and possitive ones. Ok, so i coppied those files that one of you guys told me to, from booddisk.com, coppied them to floppy diskett, and then inserted into the floppy drive, reseted the system, and it began to work like usuall. You were right, i didn't formate the drive, the thing is that i thought that WinXP CD did that for me, but i was wrong, the windows XP is still on the system. So now, i got it working, but i still would like to formate everything, and reinstall winXP on my drive C: Also, i still don't get any letters on the screen while the pc is loading, like i said, between the process of pressing "power button" and seing on the screen WELCOME message no letters appeare, nothing, just black screen. Now i would need to change the boot sequence, how can i do that? i tried, pressing DEL, F1,F2,F11, no difference. Tell me what to do now, how to format drive C:, even when i insert winXP CD in, and restart the system, it doesn't start from that CD, it checks HDD first. ;(

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Instead of formatting...why not just fix the problem? Are you prepared to spend hours installing Windows, all the device drivers, running Windows update, then installing the anti-virus & other 3rd party software? Do you even have copies of all the drivers (chipset, sound, video, modem, LAN, etc)? The PC either has a virus, spyware, or both. Boot into XP, go to Start > Run...type in MSCONFIG, click OK, then click the startup tab. How many entries are on the list? Are there any that look suspicious? Try clicking 'disable all', then click 'apply'...reboot & see if the system has gained any speed. (you will be greeted by a screen saying the startup has changed...it's nothing to worry about). Download & install CCleaner, Ad-Aware, Spybot-Search & Destroy, run the online updates, then do a full housecleaning. After you're done, defrag the drive. You can find the above files at the following site. CCleaner is the #1 most downloaded, the other two are listed under 'Anti-Spyware': http://www.filehippo.com/ If the above steps don't return the system to a reasonable state, THEN format & reinstall XP.

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BTW, don't forget to update the anti-virus program & run a full scan.

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See what happens when you post several times about the same issue? The posts go bye-bye

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