Can't do system recovery

June 26, 2009 at 00:52:15
Specs: XP HOME
I have this old 'RX-7334 Great Quality' laptop.
preinstalled with XP home SP2.
Configuration : Intel Celeron 1.8 Ghz/512 MB
RAM/30GB HDD/
It was working fine- until I had installed Acronis
True Image. Also had Drive clone Pro installed
on it.
I uninstalled the Acronis, but Acronis still kept
showing on start up. To clear it up I had the
Paragon Disk Manager installed. Deleted C
drive.
Went for a recovery with the original Recovery
CDs - but no go.
Then tried with an original XP pro bootable
installed disc and it installed fine.
I still wanted to get back to my original XP
Home, with recovery CDS. will go all the way
but system does not boot up shows an error.
The change I noticed on start up from the
previous good system is it shows on start:

Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0{build} 0.82
Copyright ---------Intel xxxxxxxxxxxx
Client MAC ADDR:00115B-74 08EA---
PXE - E51: No DHCP or Proxy DHCP offers
were recieved.

PXE - MOF: Exiting Intel PXE ROM

Reboot and select a proper Boot device.

The XP Pro installation was loading OK , but
cannot format the partition and exits the set up
and, now shows error:
" The File dmboot.sys is corrupted"
I suspect that the hard drive has failed.
Will a new HDD solve this problem and will the
Recovery CDs work OK with the laptop to
install??

Profound thanks in advance - it has been
vexing me for the last couple of days


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#1
June 26, 2009 at 04:24:51
... looks like you need to enter your bios and alter your boot up order sequence ... or disbable "PXE" option in the bios

... alter to cdrom first ... save on exit of bios

... boot up with xp cd to console press r to repair

(type) chkdsk /p [press ENTER]

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"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
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#2
June 26, 2009 at 05:55:25
Mavis, nice of you to respond - and many thanks for that.
I shall try out what u suggest and get back to you.
The boot order is OK - 1st CD_ROM, then the HDD and then
another.
I guess I shall disable the PXE.

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#3
June 26, 2009 at 06:23:20
Watch the POST screen at a regular start up to see if the hard drive is being configured by the BIOS. If not, then you MAY have a failed hard drive.

The restore disks are for that very purpose. To rstore in the event you need to replace the hard drive.

You may want to go to the manufacturer's site to determine was capacity and type of hard drive you can use for a replacement.

Can't find much on that brand. Do you know what the model of the hard drive currently installed is? May show on the screen at start up.

As far a Acronis true image removal goes, why were you removing it?

From what you describe, I don't think the hard drive is bad. Sounds like your CD drive may not be working right.

Do you watch the screens when booting with the recovery disk in place? You should see a message to hit any key to boot from the CD. You need to immediately hit a key. Space bar is good to use.


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#4
June 26, 2009 at 09:29:41
OtheHill & Mavis
I want you to know that I greatly appreciate your stepping
forward to help and am deeply grateful.
The recovery CD did go thru the first time but cud not start
coz it showed no spare space in Drive C - i had earlier deleted
Drive C using Paragon manager.
I then loaded the XP Pro bootable disc, which loaded up all
the drivers and settings and then showed up two Drives Drive
C with about 350 MB space and Drive D with 19 GB space. I
chose install in Drive D. Formatted the Drive removed the
partition and installed XP Pro.
As I said I wanted to get back to my original XP Home - I
retried the recovery CDs once again. All the three CDs were
loaded up successively after it was interrupted the first time
by a power failure. But the Windows failed to install.
So I was back to XPpro once again. I recall seeing msg that
cannot read from the Hard drive the Hard disk is corrupt - so
now XP pro was also out.
I then went into the BIOS and after a bit of tinkering the Hard
Drive showed up again. But I am getting the msg as shown in
my initial post.
As for removing Acronis. I had extremely low disc space and
acronis needs some space for a safe area to store. I also had
the Drive Clone Pro installed which served the same purpose.
So Acronis had to go.
The support for the laptop is provided by Fry's Support, if u
can call that support at all. The Hard Disk is Seagate IDE
type 30 Gb/- which means, I can install upto 80 GB max, that
is, if it is an absolute must. I do have an alternative pc Fujitsu
Lifebook A6110 - so there is no hurry for me to get this done -
nonetheless it is disconcerting as to what I may have done
that caused this to malfunction after serving me for a long five
years. And that is why I wish to get to the bottom of it.
If there is any other info that might help you to diagonise , pls
ask.
Good wishes to you all.

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#5
June 26, 2009 at 09:55:26
"...All the three CDs were loaded up successively after it was interrupted the first time by a power failure. But the Windows failed to install..."

... ya!... while writing a restore to your harddrive the above tells me to run "chkdsk" again (if you did @ all?) before one continues....

... might not be the problem but it does'nt help none!

... it could "zap" the harddrive!

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Grrrr
"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/...
... got brain freeze


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#6
June 26, 2009 at 10:20:57
Mavis,
Thanks for your input - perhaps the HDD is zapped as you say. I
get the jitters in approaching it again, nonetheless I shall chkdsk
tomorrow and let u know.
Thank you very much once again for your time and concern.

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#7
June 26, 2009 at 12:21:40
Where did you get the idea that a 30GB hard drive will hold 80GB?

I suggest that you wipe out the two partitions on the drive and recreate just one using all available space. Then it will be labeled as the C drive.

Is the computer working at this time? If so, watch the screens at start up. Post the model of the hard drive as it is shown on the screen.


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#8
June 26, 2009 at 22:20:40
OK, Here you are_
Can't 'chkdsk' coz the XP bootable disc cannot load up.
Stays in the boot mode Msg:
"Pri Master Hard Disk: S.M.A.R.T. Command Failed
Press F1 to resume"
Then goes on to:
Intel UNDI, PXE-2.0{build} 0.82
Copyright ---------Intel xxxxxxxxxxxx
Client MAC ADDR:00115B-74 08EA---
PXE - E51: No DHCP or Proxy DHCP offers
were recieved.
PXE - MOF: Exiting Intel PXE ROM
Reboot and select a proper Boot device.

And this continues>>>


What is all this an indication of??


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#9
June 26, 2009 at 22:37:18
Hill_
What I meant was that since this is an IDE device, I could
possibly replace the HD with a max of 80 GB capacity HD.
A higher replacement will not work.
Do I have the figures right here??

The pc does not go beyond boot up as seen in my previous
post. I had indeed wiped the partition at the time it still booted
up from the XP pro CD.so there is now only one partition. But
I cannot get to that.

The Boot shows this as the Primary IDE Master:
ST93015A 4.05

Getting into the BIOS in the boot sector it shows:

Primary IDE Master : [Not Detected]


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#10
June 26, 2009 at 22:42:56
ST93015A 4.05, is what shows on the screen at start up as
Primary Master IDE, which is the Hard Drive I guess.

The Hd disc is a Seagate brand - but I could open it up and fetch
more details - if that is what u mean.


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#11
June 26, 2009 at 22:58:49
....also- the XP Pro CD was loading up 64 bit drivers, when it was
still working - and in the BIOS I can see that 32 bit data transfer
has been DISABLED. So I change that to ENABLE - but still no
joy.
Now cud this have a bearing on what has really happened here??

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#12
June 27, 2009 at 05:27:56
Hill-
This is on the underside of the HDD:

Seagate
Model No: ST93015A


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#13
June 27, 2009 at 05:55:56
I suggest you download the appropriate version of Seatools for DOS and burn it to CDR or install to floppy. Boot to Seatools and run the fitness test to determine if your hard drive is OK or not. SMART may be wrong. Get Seatools at the sink below.

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/su...


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#14
June 27, 2009 at 06:16:31
Righto!!
Off to the Seagate site for now.

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#15
June 28, 2009 at 06:42:05
I took out the Hard Drive - connected it to another pc via USB-
IDE adapter and checked.
The Drive does not show/register
The Drive must have gone kaput.
Will a new drive work OK with my laptop??

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#16
June 28, 2009 at 08:19:05
The hard drive may very well be dead but you can't be sure of that at this point.

As far as what you can or can't use you SHOULD be able to install a replacement drive. Without reviewing this entire thread tell me if you have restore disks for the computer.


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#17
June 28, 2009 at 08:48:06
Sure Hill - I do have the restore disks, originals.

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#18
June 28, 2009 at 08:54:06
.... I also have a full backup on a separate External Hard Drive,
done with Drive Clone Pro.
Unfortunately the adapter of External Drive LaCie burned out and
am awaiting a replacement adapter from their support.

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#19
June 28, 2009 at 14:01:36
As I stated at the beginning I couldn't find anything on that brand other than fry's selling them.

I suggest you contact fry's and ask what capacity drive you can run on that laptop. I THINK you should be able to go up to 120GB.

I still recommend trying to run Seatools for DOS from the boot. Should be available in both CD or floppy versions.


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#20
June 28, 2009 at 16:05:45
roger, will reinstall the HDD and try the DOS Seatools, as you
recommend.
I have in the meantime already d/l the Seatools application and
burned an ISO image to CD.
I shall be posting the results soon and also write to Fry's for a
recommended upgrade of HDD.
Thank you very much HILL_

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#21
June 28, 2009 at 20:55:30
BTW - This is about my fujitsu lifebook A6110.
I had uninstalled Power producer which came with the laptop
but used too much space and I had no use for.
Using Revo uninstaller, in the process I had also deleted the
code: {4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE1038}
from the registry as it was also highlighted by Revo for
deletion.
Now the n/book does not show the optical drive.
Fujitsu support suggested I do a system recovery - Now this
is something I do not wish to do because I lose many
applications and plenty of data.
Is there a way out of it??
How can I get my DVD drive operational again? without doing
a full system recovery.

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#22
June 29, 2009 at 06:54:21
I am confused. Are you starting to talk about a new issue on a different laptop? If so, it would be better to start a new thread using that laptop in your header and a descriptive topic.

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#23
June 29, 2009 at 08:49:46
Uh no Hill - I thought the thread is the same - Cant do system
restore:
On one[Rx 7334] because of tech difficulties.
And on another[A6110 Fujitsu] because it is not the preferred
option for me.
However if u still think I should separate the threads.......sorry if I had made a mess up here. You have been so helpful thus far.

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#24
June 29, 2009 at 10:25:39
I skimmed over the thread and did see a reference to both now. I did miss it originally. When trying to solve issues on two different computers it is best to make two threads.

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#25
June 29, 2009 at 10:55:53
Have another thread going now as u suggest the thread head -
'Inoperative Optical Drive'

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#26
June 29, 2009 at 10:56:43
Have another thread going now as u suggest the thread head -
'Inoperative Optical Drive' under General category.

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#27
June 29, 2009 at 16:09:06
I don't see the thread.

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#28
June 29, 2009 at 18:40:12
This is the Link:

http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...
optical-drive/177148.html


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#29
June 29, 2009 at 18:53:39
Link doesn't work, check to see that the thread is up.

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#30
June 29, 2009 at 19:20:34
I had posted it under XP categories - now amended to Vista.
This is the Link now. Pls see if u can access it

The head is: Inoperative optical driveal drive

Computing Net>Forums>Windows Vista>Inoperative optical
driveal drive

http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...
optical-driveal-drive/4835.html


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#31
June 29, 2009 at 19:43:16
You'll have to type the link by hand because the whole link is not
highlighted here - as you can see the bottom line is not included:

..www.computing.net/answers/windows-vista/inoperative-optical-
driveal-drive/4835.html


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#32
June 29, 2009 at 19:50:39
Pls do let me know if you have any more difficulties.
Regards

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#33
June 29, 2009 at 19:55:01
Wayfarer

In the future all you need to do is copy the url from your address bar and paste in the forum. Automatically becomes a link.

I didn't look in the Vista forum because you said you posted in the Hardware forum.


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#34
June 29, 2009 at 20:05:37
Ah Hill that is indeed what I did - copied and pasted the link - but
it comes this not the entire link, which leads to nowhere.
I guess this is an aberration that Computing Net[a great site]
needs to fix

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#35
June 29, 2009 at 20:07:59
... and yes it should have been posted in the hardware section -
again my bad - novice as I am. Sorry

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#36
June 30, 2009 at 04:44:46
... if link is too long use this: http://tinyurl.com/

... to shorten the link! ( cn has character length limit)

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Grrrr
"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/...
... got brain freeze


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#37
June 30, 2009 at 04:44:53
You may be trying to highlight the URL and not getting it all. No need to do that. Simply right click on the address bar and select copy then of course use paste at the other end.

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#38
June 30, 2009 at 09:27:27
Thank you Mavis tiny url link is good solution.

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#39
June 30, 2009 at 16:33:10
mavis, I didn't know there was a restriction on link length here. Makes me wonder why I never ran into it.

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#40
July 1, 2009 at 04:13:23
"OtheHill"... ya! I only found out a day ago pm'd "jw" by the time of response I had tried tinyurl and resolved it!

"... its a security issue.."(jw) ...ca'nt remember what the length limit is... but when you try posting the link you end up with the (post) thread link you're in plus hash mark ie

http://www.computing.net/answers/wi...

... untill it you shorten it..


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Grrrr
"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/...
... got brain freeze


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