Computing.Net > Forums > Windows XP > BSOD at startup, too fast to see

Computer Problems? Computing.Net has over 1,000,000 posts about all things technology related! Click here to start participating now! Also, check out the New User Guide.

BSOD at startup, too fast to see

Reply to Message Icon

Name: needy
Date: April 27, 2007 at 21:53:56 Pacific
OS: Windows XP home
CPU/Ram: 2.20 ghz with 1.25 gb of
Product: e-machines
Comment:

Whenever I boot my computer it goes to the windows XP screen then it goes through a blue screen of death for half a second and restarts.

I cannot use System Restore since I needed to shut it down to remove a trojan

I cant run disk check-error since it tells me to restart when I run it at safe-mode, and since XP wont boot, it never gets to that part.

One time however, out of frustraition, I bangged the keyboard and it booted fine (if that helped)



Sponsored Link
Ads by Google

Response Number 1
Name: needy
Date: April 28, 2007 at 00:10:10 Pacific
Reply:

*update*

Ok, I read somewhere that Mcafee can cause this, so I un-installed Mcafee and the BSOD at startup is gone now (Praise the lord)

however, how do I fix this Mcafee BSOD problem? Or should I get a different virus scanner


0

Response Number 2
Name: funkyhitman
Date: April 28, 2007 at 04:37:38 Pacific
Reply:

For future if you ever get a Blue screen again, in windows right click my computer and select properties. Click the advanced tab and under startup and recovery click settings. Under system failure untick Automatically restart.

Now whenever you get a blue screen your pc won't restart and it will display the error message for as long as you like. You can then use the information to search for a cause.

I have no idea how to fix the Mcafee problem but I would suggest contacting Mcafee support and see if they know about it or have a fix. Have you updated Mcafee to the latest version as that may include a fix?

If all else fails then I recommend Kaspersky Anti-Virus who are one of the best.


0

Response Number 3
Name: trvlr
Date: April 28, 2007 at 05:51:27 Pacific
Reply:

mmm another bod who is having issues with a current version of MacAfee...

I'd go with another util. My preference currently is Avast (avast.com). Works fine for me (on all M$-OS)... and it's "free" for home use.

Now - having praised the Lord... - pass the ammunition...


0

Response Number 4
Name: needy
Date: April 28, 2007 at 10:15:22 Pacific
Reply:

Seems like I celebrated to soon, a few restarts later, the BSOD is back.

Driver_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Stop: 0x000000D1 (0xF78935E4, 0x00000007 0x00000000 0xF7881D40)

NDIS.sys - Address F78935E4 base at F786C000 Datestomp 3d6de4c3

NDIS.Sys - Address F7881D40 at F786C000 Datestomp 3d6de4c3


0

Response Number 5
Name: trvlr
Date: April 28, 2007 at 10:28:11 Pacific
Reply:

I'd still be inclined to avoid MacAfee etc...

Meanwhile...

Run a scandisk routine (if you can now you've removed MacAfee) - and see if it coughs up any issues with the hard-drive. Likwise there may be RAM stick going down...; the "intermittent" nature of this event suggests it "might" be due to the latter...

If you have two or more sticks installed reduce a single stick (min 128Meg) and see if error goes away; and logically try each stick in turn...? Also any prospect of borrowing a "known to be good" stick (or more) of RAM to try in situ?


0

Related Posts

See More



Response Number 6
Name: needy
Date: April 28, 2007 at 12:14:37 Pacific
Reply:

ok, I tried the ram sticks 1 by 1 and I still got the error

Seems like if I uninstall something in safemode, the computer will boot normally until the next restart.

I re-installed the Ethernet cable thing since I read NDIS.sys has something to do with that, but that didn't work

I uninstalled Mcafee but seems like the process are still their, Mcafee real-time scanner is on automatic and when I try to disable it i get: Error 5: Acess denied(even in admin account)

When I try to acess add new hardware I get the same BSOD

In normal my Internet goes on for a few minutes and then off, but in safemode the internet is fine



0

Response Number 7
Name: trvlr
Date: April 28, 2007 at 13:06:15 Pacific
Reply:

There is an option (if I remember corrctly) enable a boot-log; this to record/detail what loads OK...

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...

touches on this and M$ general how to resolve start-up issues.

And this one is more specific - with assorted routes to follow:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041

Some other resourc/help sites:

http://labmice.techtarget.com/windo...

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/ar...

Incidentally... say you "had" a virus (a trojan...). Are you sure you truly got rid of it? There are some examples around where a virus will give the problem you appear to have...

If you can access/use a CD version of linux on a CD (Knoppix or Ubuntu are two that come to mind) you could boot up with that and then do on-line full scan of the drive. This would allow any nasties remaining (that you think you've gotten rid of, or didn't know about) to be removed... And if successful you may then be able to so a system restore routine to restore and damaged files?

Likewise a system restore at this stage may resolve it all - presuming the nasty you go rid of truly is no more...

As for getting rid of MacAfee I can't advise there at all; other than to suggest a visit to their site to see how they advise you rid of it. It would appear that, like Symantec...., they are pain to remove from a given installation - once there... Another reason why I have now dumped both utils (not that I ever was a MacAfee fan).

Hopefully others will drop in with more input too...?


0

Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: April 28, 2007 at 14:31:26 Pacific
Reply:

Like trvlr, I can't tell you how to remove McAfee but the first place I would look would be in the Program files for McAfee to see if there is an unistall file.


0

Response Number 9
Name: needy
Date: April 28, 2007 at 15:37:13 Pacific
Reply:

alright I fixed it, I asked my friend if he could send me a copy of his ndis.sys, and I replaced mine with his. about 8 restarts now and still no problem, so I think i finally fixed it, thank you everyone


0

Response Number 10
Name: trvlr
Date: April 28, 2007 at 15:52:16 Pacific
Reply:

mmm well done. Again ideally run a FULL scan of the system (there are several freebie on-line sites out there); and perhaps seriously condsiering getting rid of MacAfee and going with another util - Avast or Kaspersy being two to consider?

Currently use Avast (as I said earlier it's free for domestic use); and had no problems with it all.


0

Response Number 11
Name: Intel 80486 (by meisinscotland)
Date: April 28, 2007 at 18:59:22 Pacific
Reply:

Response Number 7:

I had McAfee 8 Enterprise for a while (got it free from my college) and while it wasnt a bad piece of kit I just got plain sick of it slowing down my machine. So I got rid of it (not a problem uninstalling, and yes, it did all get off my machine, processes and all).

I since got AVG and my shutdown time dropped from 2 minutes to about 10 seconds (cheer everyone) and startup time is to a similar effect to.

To be brutally honest I dont understand why people fork out lots of money to run apps that cost precisely that - a lot of money - and that seem to just slow down comps and cause a lot of problems.... when you can get so much free stuff. =]

Anywho I am glad the problem was sorted. Kaspersy, NOD 32 and Avast I hear are all good Antiviruses. I use AVG as well, which I am aware is good too.

Just my 2 pence worth.

There is one subtle yet vital difference between opinion and fact; and the bigger man is he who can whole-heartedly admit this.


0

Sponsored Link
Ads by Google
Reply to Message Icon

Data dvd disk Converting everything to ...



Post Locked

This post is quite old and has been locked from receiving new replies. Please create a new posting instead.


Go to Windows XP Forum Home


Sponsored links

Ads by Google


Results for: BSOD at startup, too fast to see

split second BSOD at startup www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/split-second-bsod-at-startup/134781.html

Error messages too fast to read www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/error-messages-too-fast-to-read/46219.html

xp boot blue error screen too fast www.computing.net/answers/windows-xp/xp-boot-blue-error-screen-too-fast-/60566.html