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Name: mountnco
Date: April 12, 2006 at 00:15:56 Pacific
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 3.2 GHz Pentium 4/1 GB RA
Product: Optima
Comment:

Hi,
I've got two hard disks, one is a 120 GB and the other is a 20 GB. I got my hands on a copy of Windows Vista Beta and installed it on my D: drive, being the 20 GB hard disk. It ran way to slow so i formatted the disk and the Boot menu continued to bring up both OS, so i formatted the D: drive again in XP, but it insists on bringing up the boot menu! Here is what my boot.ini file has in it but what can i take out to remove the OS from the boot menu???:

[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /FASTDETECT /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN

The boot Menu also defaults to Vista which really sux because then it will try and run vista when i start up and leave the computer to start on its own. Any help or ideas would greatly be appreciated! Thanks in advanced!!!!

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Response Number 1
Name: Richard59
Date: April 12, 2006 at 01:07:54 Pacific
Reply:

I'm not familiar with the bootfiles that Vista uses but the boot.ini file you have described above does not resemble any multiboot I've seen before. When you next boot up into XP you should click START, rightclick MY COMPUTER and select Properties>advanced>startup and recovery.
In the Startup section do you have two Windows systems available in the Default menu? If so then set XP as the default and timeout to any figure between zero and 30 seconds.
If this doesn't help then vista obviously puts some other bootfile in place that overrides or bypasses the boot.ini.
Maybe someone who has vista experience can help further.

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Response Number 2
Name: Grusomhat
Date: April 12, 2006 at 01:09:53 Pacific
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OK first of to remove Vista from the Boot menu try this. Start-run-msconfig. Then go to the boot.ini tab and click "Check all boot paths"
This should detect that Vista's not there and remove it from the list. This should fix the Starting up problem aswell.


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Response Number 3
Name: mountnco
Date: April 12, 2006 at 02:46:57 Pacific
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Sorry, i forgot to include this message that was in the boot.ini file:

Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.

But i cant seem to find that file on my hard disks at all, because i did a search of both hard disks
And only XP shows up in both the startup/recovery area and MSCONFIG!!
Any more ideas????

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Response Number 4
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 12, 2006 at 09:01:19 Pacific
Reply:

What version was that 5308 or 5342 ?

Your 3.2GHz P4 with 1GB memory should run that thing without much lag, I dual boot 5308 and XP Pro on a 3400+ A64 "Clawhammer" and there is no lag on my machine.

Anyhow, Windows has always been notorious for obsolescing computer end user's hardware prematurely and Vista is right on course as evidenced by this experience. You better start saving up for a new more GHz "Intel" rig....LOL

Now with regards to Bcdedit.exe, it is natively located in the \Windows\System32 folder of your Vista installation partition (wherever that is) on your computer HDD(s). I doubt you can do much with it other delete that grizzly beast. I found myself fiddling with it a couple times but I didn't do any extensive manipulation because I didn't want to butcher my dual boot a second time. I guess you have nothing to lose since you've got a fresh install or Windows sans Vista.

I believe Grusomhat gave you a hint that I might have tried a while back, but I'm going to log out of Vista right now and log in to XP Pro to take a look at its msconfig and see where and what exactly you need to do in there.


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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 12, 2006 at 10:56:01 Pacific
Reply:

As it turns out the option that I was looking for was in Vista's msconfig and not in XP Pro's.

Run can run FIXBOOT and FIXMBR to correct it.


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Response Number 6
Name: mountnco
Date: April 12, 2006 at 15:52:54 Pacific
Reply:

It is version 5342! But the problem with the 2 commands that you have given me is that Vista has been wiped from the D:\ drive totally, but i believe a fromat wont get rid of boot sectors so what can i do? Do i need to reinstall Vista on D:\ drive to get to the Bcdedit.exe file?

(P.S. Vista ran slow because of the old and crap hard disk that it was installed on)

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Response Number 7
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 12, 2006 at 21:10:04 Pacific
Reply:

You haven't even run the command and you already know it won't work.


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Response Number 8
Name: Grusomhat
Date: April 12, 2006 at 21:57:37 Pacific
Reply:

Ok so you want to remove vista from the Boot menu. Right?. Then boot into Windows and try what i told you to do.


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Response Number 9
Name: mountnco
Date: April 12, 2006 at 22:16:01 Pacific
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Yeah i tryed them in XP, but i cant try them in Vista because i formatted my hard disk that contained Vista!! I also tryed it on another machine that had Vista on it and it wouldn't run!! Am i doin sumthin wrong and are there any other ways to fix the problem???

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Response Number 10
Name: Grusomhat
Date: April 12, 2006 at 22:54:44 Pacific
Reply:

Well My way you wont need to run it in Vista. So you tried what i said?


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Response Number 11
Name: mountnco
Date: April 12, 2006 at 23:16:54 Pacific
Reply:

When i opened MS Config and followed ur instructions a message said that all paths were correct and i looked at the paths it had and it only reads them from the boot.ini file, therefore it doesn't show vista because vista is in bcdedit.exe, not boot.ini!! Any other ideas???

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Response Number 12
Name: Grusomhat
Date: April 12, 2006 at 23:31:20 Pacific
Reply:

Um you could try FIXMBR from the recovery console.


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Response Number 13
Name: mountnco
Date: April 13, 2006 at 01:47:14 Pacific
Reply:

I booted off the vista disk and used the recovery console but fixmbr wouldn't work, said it was an invailid command! Heres another weird thing, i unplugged my d:\ drive and it still brought up the boot menu for both OS, but Vista was installed on the d:\ therefore the new bootfile, bcdedit.exe should only be on d:\ drive!
Any more ideas would greatly be appreciated!

(p.s. Thanks for all the ideas already given, i'm out of my mind and cant think of anyhting else)

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Response Number 14
Name: Grusomhat
Date: April 13, 2006 at 02:20:33 Pacific
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Do you have an xp disc. If so use the recovery console on that.


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Response Number 15
Name: Sabertooth
Date: April 13, 2006 at 09:42:20 Pacific
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"Heres another weird thing, i unplugged my d:\ drive and it still brought up the boot menu for both OS"

Why is it wierd ?

The boot routine is called from the 'system' HDD which in your case happens to be the C: drive. That was the whole reason behind using the recovery console.


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Response Number 16
Name: mountnco
Date: April 16, 2006 at 21:20:49 Pacific
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i've half fixed the problem, because vista no longer shows up in the boot menu. This was done when i installed a second copy of windows on my c:\ drive, only because my XP Pro disc didn't have the option for the recovery console!
But now that i've installed the second copy of windows, how do i get rid of the new copy without screwing up the copy i use?

I couldn't get into my old copy of windows until i setup the new copy so i'm guessing that they might be using some of the same components, thats why i dont want to go ahead and do it!

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