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Name: rapattack
This machine has a history of freezing and the only way to reboot is to turn the machine off at the power button. Today I got a blue screen with a lot of stuff. Something about that if whatever it is happened again to do............... I thought since it is the first blue screen I got on that machine I will just reboot. When I did I got this http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/...
The freezing got less often when I doubled the ram. I only got this machine about a month ago and the previous owner said she experienced it turning off and rebooting automatically at the worst times. This I never experienced but when she gave it to me she reinstalled windows.
I think I get a freeze one out every 3 days(boots) and sometimes the machine is on for several hours while I am not at home as I use it for surveillance(snapshots)."The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
Maybe some info in this ---
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...
You Receive a "System Has Recovered from a Serious Error" Message After Every Restart
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When you get a blue screen always take down the error number (if possible) that gives you an exact problem & it will be easier for you to find the solution.
What greater betrayal is there, to give pain where you owe love.
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Well, he provided a screenshot. He BSOD'd with DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, but that's irrelevant, because his problem is a bad MB, bad PSU, bad CPU, or some combination there of. I'd say probably bad PSU and MB.
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Chuck 2-so what I can deduct is your saying to get sp2 ....but it has that already.
D_Vilenski-yeah I know I should have got the whole error info but I was feeling it was the first time on that machine and the previous owner said it was a good machine. I thought ok if it happens again then I will do that.
Razor2.3-geez I hope not.
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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Oops now defrag stalls at 40%. I downloaded an auslogics disk defrag and used that but it stalled also. So does this mean there is something wrong with the primary drive. The defrag procedure works on the secondary drive fine.
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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If you're getting Delayed Write Failed errors, then yes, the drive is bad. If the HD is still in use when it "stalls" at 40%, defrag just hasn't gotten around to updating the percentage. If the HD activity stops at 40%, something is probably wrong with your file system (not surprising, given the crashing), and you should run a CHKDSK on the drive.
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What is CHKDSK?
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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It's MS' tool for file system maintenance and repair. It does the work most people, for whatever strange and contrived reason, think defrag does.
Start -> Run -> CHKDSK C: -> Answer y to the prompts -> reboot.
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chkdsk is a contraction for CHECK THE DISK. If you do run it without a drive specification it automatically will assume drive C:\ and if you are using your C:\ drive with your current windows installation it will ask if you wish to perform this on your next boot.
You should do this and let CHKDSK complete a full scan.
After it completes it will provide a simple summary. Two important aspects to this are 'is it reporting the proper size of the disk' and additionally 'if there are any errors and whether they were repaired'.
Any improper sizes or errors not fixed are a prime indication of a disk dying a horrbile death, and it would be very wise to backup anything worth keeping....well NOW.
Defragmenter is a different tool for essentially putting your files physically back together to reduce disk usage and (hopefully) to improve performance.
J.
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Thanks for the full information! I tried chkdsk the other day but it only got to somewhere like 50%. Can't remember the number now. Will try again in a few minutes. The machine hasn't had a blue screen since the one mentioned. It still freezes sometimes so maybe if it is the hd that is at fault I might put the secondary drive as the primary and installing windows on that.
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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You should never get impatient with chkdsk. If it takes 6 hours to scan, theres probably a reason for that. Let it finish completely so you can determine the condition of the disk.
J.
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No it stalled.....at 50%. Will try again though as that was days ago.
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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No it stalled.....at 50%. Will try again though as that was days ago. How I know is that the mouse doesn't move!
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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No, chkdsk does not stall ;) It's just having a lot of issue at some point.
If chkdsk stalled, you'd see a BSOD. :)
J.
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I should say the system froze. It is not chkdsk your right. Anyway today it got to 54% before it happened.
No Blue screen of death....
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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Well, set the issue with your file system aside. You should be focusing on why your PC is freezing, THEN run the chkdsk.
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Rapattack,
If chkdsk finishes it's 'highly' likely you'll get this disk in shape so you can use it.
Half running chkdsk and not letting it finish tells me you've got problems in the disk, and they will get worse as you go on without fixing the errors.
But I agree with Razor, if your problems your hardware is locking up, address this first. You need decent hardware to get that hard disk in shape first.
J.
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OK that sounds good but I can't get it to finishes it's job so I guess it means the hard drive is crap? Anyway I put the seconday hard drive as a master and tried to install windoze on that but it won't boot into the setup....irritating. When I use a linux cd it does boot. I think I might give up on stupid windoze alltogether and install 'wine' so I can run some windoze apps there. I don't want to do it on my primary box because i am still so new to linux and I don't want to stuff up.
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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The fact that it's not finishing 'in a timely fashion' simply says that there are probably a lot of errors on the drive. I've seen chkdsk run for more than 6 hours!
Also, if your BIOS is somewhat new, don't get caught up in the Master/slave arrangement. Simply use CS (cable select) and let the BIOS handle all this stuff.
Booting from CD is another setting in the BIOS, so if you cannot install on another disk then either a) your BIOS does not boot CDROM first, or b) your hard disk is not detected by your BIOS.
Anytime you add hardware, always verify that the BIOS had 'properly detected' it, then make sure your boot options will boot from CD first, then let it rip.
If you can boot from CD, then the CD you're installing windows from is not a 'genuine XP CD'. Use genuine media.
J.
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OK well then the master drive is faulty.
Yes I use cable select I think for the slave...not sure if I have it as such for the master. A friend gave me the machine and I don't know if I have looked at that issue.
The cd rom is set as the first boot device.
I know that the bios is seeing both hard drives but I am not sure about 'properly detected'. I think you mean when I change the drives physically the next boot I should go into the bios first and check that the device is listed then fully boot into whatever os or whatever the cd device holds?
I am afraid I bought the xp cd from ebay and that is possible there is a problem. I have had it sitting around for sometime as when I was supposed to use it ages ago it didn't work. I thought it was my lack of knowledge back then and I really should have complained about the ebayer that sold it to me. I am still not familiar with how the packaging and look of the cd should look like. Most of the people around me have never bought a new pc with windows on it. We are all poor...he he. Well there are a couple of working friends but they got themselves 2nd hand pc's from other friends they knew that are ameteur techie nerds like me. None of them have the windows cd that came with the pc either so I have nothing to go by. I have walked into pc shops but they have the windows cd's behind glass cases and you can't see anything."The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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Caveat Emptor.
You bought it. Take the blame for not buying genuine. Really can't blame the seller.
Back to your issue.
You shouldn't mix Master/Slave configurations with Cable Select. USE ONE OR THE OTHER.
That said, that shouldn't cause big problems unless the drives are connected wrong.
Master drive to master connection and slave drive to slave connection? Not sure which is which, then just use CS and forget about it.
If the BIOS 'properly detects' the drives. IOW, it sees:
1. The correct number of drives,
2. The correct firmware revision of the drives,Then all is well.
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No, I wasn't talking about BOOT ordering. :)
I guess you're off to Best Buy to get a copy of XP then.
Good luck,
J.
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I don't know what those first words are.
The seller had a picture of what I thought was of a gueniune cd...you know the packaging you see on most websites so I disagree.
Ah ok will keep that in mind with cable select or otherwise.
I don't know much about Best Buy. I have heard of the site but do not know anyone who has bought from it. I am only used to buying from Ebay. I don't know if I will bother with windows. I really don't have any money so will have to stick with linux for now and just not use the programs I would like to. In saying that you never know....maybe someone that owes me money might come round and finally pay me back....life is a surprise sometimes....Thanks!
"The meaning of life is to be happy and useful" Tenzin Gyatso the 14th Dalai Lama
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