AMD 1200 slow tragic death?

Via694 / Awrdacpi
July 23, 2009 at 22:20:59
Specs: Microsoft Windows XP Professional, 1.247 GHz / 511 MB
I built this puppy about 6yrs ago. Desktop w/ plenty of cooling, modest gamer for 2004. Have only replaced the power supply so far.
The Western Digi 80 gig HD had made a whirring sound on startup for the last year or so. But never had any issues. The machine is in a cool, dry envir.
Last week or so, it stopped recognizing game disks or any other disks in either of 2 dvd drives. Tried fixing that by a regular interior cleaning of dust, etc, and by unplugging and replugging most of the connectors. I booted with the 2 dvd's unplugged, shut down, and rebooted withem plugged in again, hoping the system might recognize new hardware.
Other components have been fixed this way before. Didn't WORK this time.
Well folks, that's when things started not working well anymore. It would boot into windows, but just shut off once my desktop was loaded. Then it wouldn't even get that far, and after a while, I couldn't even use safemode. And then my recovery console went byebye. Now It's TOAST.
I'm thinking power supply again, but possibly HDD?
I can't lose the data on there, business records and such. Could there be something else due to it's age, like some lithium battery, or other MOBO related isssue?
Longtime Longtime

RanJ

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#1
July 24, 2009 at 04:44:38
That sounds like a typical HDD failure, especially since you said it's been making noise. You should have backed it up while you could. It sounds like you're out of luck, but see what others say.

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#2
July 24, 2009 at 05:37:17
Thanks, I'm afraid of that.
This AM, I tried it in safe mode and it only goes to line 5, config \system, stops there indefinately.
Anyone know if I can retrieve data from the HD? There must be a way...

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#3
July 24, 2009 at 06:40:04
Try temporarily disconnecting the HDD, then see if you can bootup & access the BIOS. If you can, go to the PC Health menu & check the CPU temp...monitor it for a while & see what happens. Does it level off at a reasonable temp (less than 50C) or does it continue climbing?

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#4
July 24, 2009 at 08:41:51
I can get into the bios, and the temp stays around 50-52 the whole time. It's cool enough.
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#5
July 24, 2009 at 22:24:04
Had the same problem about a month ago. Here is a trick that worked for me. Remove the harddive and put in an airtight plastic bag. Place this in the freezer overnight. When you remove it from the freezer immediately install into a computer and copy the contents off of it. I got more than an hour of use before mine died.

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#6
July 25, 2009 at 02:08:28
RANJ, FWIW (doesn't help much), I'm inclined to agree with the others. Sounds like HDD to me (bearing?). The freezer idea along with crossed fingers sounds worth a try to me.
HTH.
Ed in Texas.

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#7
July 25, 2009 at 07:04:09
Sorry CBBob, I don't like the idea of putting delicate electronics in a freezer. Condensation could fry the thing. I've replaced the power supply- which I had tested and it was shot. Still didn't boot into windows, SO
I picked up an XP disk, so I can repair Windows from the disk. I hope this works. I'll let you guys know later.

Thanks alot,
RanJ

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#8
July 25, 2009 at 09:53:02
Did you use a vacuum cleaner when performing your cleaning?

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#9
July 30, 2009 at 16:48:26
I did use a vacuum. I always have. I make sure there's no static. Good point, tho

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#10
July 30, 2009 at 16:56:22
It's still just possible that something like "Puppy Linux Live CD" made on another machine will be able to read the data on the HD so that you can copy your stuff onto a flash drive. You will have to ensure that your CD is set to boot before your C drive (in BIOS).

As you probably know, these live CD's run Linux straight from the CD without using XP at all. On a working machine you will still boot normally to XP after using them.

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#11
July 30, 2009 at 17:41:43
If you have always used a vacuum cleaner and haven't had a problem before you have been lucky. There is no way to prevent static from the flow of air through the hose.

As far as the wrilling noise at start up that could just be a variable speed CPU fan starting at full speed. Nothing to be concerned about.

If you zapped the hard drive it may have just corrupted the data. Try running a drive fitness test on it. Live version of Linux is a good idea.

Placing the hard drive in the freezer is a LAST resort for seized bearings. If your drive is still turning the freezer won't help. May just be corrupt file tables, in which case Live version of Linux would work. So would recovery software.

I suggest you stop using a vacuum on your electronics.


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#12
July 30, 2009 at 18:06:34
I've reclaimed data from a couple of drives with the old freezer trick. Would be worth a shot, since it sounds like it's dog meat anyway. The air-tight bag helps in keeping away some condensation---just keep it as cool as possible when you bring it out of the freezer. I got 35GB backed up on an old 40GB drive by keeping it in the bag and on a towel wrapped in ice. Just fed the cables into the bag and backed the data up on USB flash drives, then moved the flash to DVD's...

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#13
July 30, 2009 at 18:12:08
As stated in my last post, if the drive is currently turning then freezing won't help. That said, the process does work and has proven itself.

You should be able to feel the drive turning and it should show in the POST screens.


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#14
July 31, 2009 at 03:05:37
Hey guys
Managed to mostly fix it. Got it to boot, got some problems though.
Will post later. Thanks for all the help. Check back.

RanJ

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#15
July 31, 2009 at 14:46:27
Ok here's what I did. I pulled the HD and tested it on another XP machine. It was fine, and all the data was still there. The noise was from my CPU cooling fan, which ran hi-speed on startup. (May be worth switching out) Both DVD drives were junk, and that happens after 5-6 yrs. to most.
So I backed up my HD on an external, made sure everything was there, plugged in the HD, plugged in a good DVD drive, and did a clean install of XP w/ the disk. It booted.

All my progs were there along with data, except for the parameters like address book, bookmarks in Firefox, etc. Luckily those were backed up, and I re-installed them.

I could not connect to the internet, tho. I thought it was the ethernet adapter, but it turns out- Winsock in the registry was fouled up somehow.
Fixed that with a miraculous little program called "Winsock Fix", which you can Google, or get for free at Cnet.com. I am back in biz w/ a new DVD drive and power supply.

Thank you all for your tips, help, and cool ideas- especially the freezer one! I'd like to also thank my bud JB for the use of his tech bench for countless hours!

Much obliged,
RanJ

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