Air Force now using a super-secure version XP

May 3, 2009 at 00:14:04
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Windows 7 might be getting all the attention lately, but Windows XP is having a quiet little renaissance of its own -- not only have sales of the venerable OS been extended until 2010, Microsoft is selling an ultra-secure version to the Air Force. The custom build ships with over 600 settings bolted down, and a security patch turnaround of just 72 hours compared to the standard edition's 57 days -- all because Steve Ballmer personally stepped in and approved the project at the Air Force's request. The effort's to standardize and preconfigure the OS has paid off: 85 percent of previous known exploits have been blocked, support call volume has dropped 40 percent, and the USAF has saved some $100 million in costs. Nice -- but don't get your hopes up, since it doesn't seem like Microsoft has any intention of selling this version to the public.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/01/...

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#1
May 3, 2009 at 05:19:27
And your point is what.?
That we as individuals are less deserving than the military.
That Microsoft can produce a more secured operating system
That the Linux crowd loses out again.
That Microsoft beat Mac to the draw on this one.
That XP is the best operating system by far.
Or is it that this version of XP will be so cost prohibited because it was sold to the military.
Really just what is the point that you were trying to make.?

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#2
May 3, 2009 at 07:04:14
maybe there is no point, just for information purposes only. Its an interesting story, period. Or maybe , it should be on a "need to know" basis.

larry


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#3
May 3, 2009 at 07:49:25
There is nothing exotic about the XP installation touted in that story. It is the same version you & I have access to with everything pretty much clamped down.

Besides a secure type of environment, no one will find that type of installation user friendly. So, move along people, nothing to see here.

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#4
May 3, 2009 at 07:56:34
I guess this is just a followup to the 2004 news ...

MS Lands Air Force Contract With $500 Million Potential

If interested, download & read M$ white paper on The USAF Standard Desktop Configuration (SDC) from HERE.

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#5
May 3, 2009 at 15:11:22
"And your point is what.?"

It's called "news", ever heard of it? Yeah, apprently this thing called "news" has been around for some time now.

"Really just what is the point that you were trying to make.?"

Apprently you didn't see the link or were just too lazy check out the link at the bottom to realize that this news source that was posted on here was sourced from there. Next time try not to respond to comments in such an rude manner.

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#6
May 3, 2009 at 15:47:58
Sounds like a conspiracy between the Military and Microsoft to
stop people from posting future problem here at CN....when the OS goes public.

So what happens when a pilot in a 50 million plane gets the message......you are using an illegal copy of xp?

Is the Military aware of the WGA and known issues with it.
Well there goes any secretes the military might have.

Sorry for having an imagination.
W.L.


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#7
May 3, 2009 at 19:44:49
WL, exactly right. The issue is old news and nothing up to date and it does nothing to distinquish the differences about anything in particular.

My point is that most users here have already locked down the security issues on their own machines ...equal to or better than what Microsoft is about to reap millions over.

If one was to read the article, as I did, The security issues stated and the doewn turn on repair calls is referring to the general public's versions of the operating system and only that they have sold the military that same version...not something that is different at all. Just a lot of hype and spin on words is all.

So again my question remains the same...where is the point in the story!

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#8
May 3, 2009 at 22:01:13
The point is that It's a special edition of a Windows OS exclusively for the military which hasn't been done before by Microsoft, which is why it's news.

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#9
May 4, 2009 at 01:45:35
The point is that It's a special edition of a Windows OS exclusively for the military which hasn't been done before by Microsoft , which is why it's news.

Where have you been? Have you ever heard of Military-industrial complex?

It's no secret that many industries in the U.S.A. does business with the government under the name of National Security. Industries engaged in government work are prohibited by law from even acknowledging this part of business under Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement.

Coincidentially your signature - Iron Sharpens Iron - closely resemble Iron triangle, an often-used example of the term is with reference to the military-industrial complex.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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#10
May 4, 2009 at 02:36:53
hi

thats an interesting outlook for xp,
recently i ran belarc on someones pc to find a (!) device ,after he stopped laughing
i said whats so funny , the score

1.8 out of 10 , & thats a clean install he said.

what do you have to do to get at least five out of 10?

any hints links ?

(Xpuser the iron quote is a proverb)


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#11
May 4, 2009 at 02:42:27
I have known that for years XPUser. They also go by the name of government contractors; maybe you didn't understand what I meant.

What I was saying is when Microsoft recently released a super-secure version of XP exclusively for the military; it's a first for Microsoft to exclusively provide a different approach to the security settings and security update procedures for the computers in the military using a Microsoft OS then in years past where the computers in the military running a Micrsoft OS would have the same security settings and security update procedures as the rest of us.

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#12
May 4, 2009 at 20:34:59
The problem with this disclosure is that the narrative is flat-out disingenuous. The piece should & would have been more appropriately titled: M$ Announces Safe & Secure Air Force Desktop/Enterprise Initiative. But no, they had to make up an OS that really doesn't exist out of some wild imagination.

"The USAF saved $100 million on a five-year license agreement with Microsoft by consolidating more than 30 contracts — made possible by the fact that it was now able to buy a single standard configuration."

Apparently the idea was to save DoD a boatload of money, I suspect that M$' enthusiasm was -- keeping with their true passion -- to monopolize the lucrative contracts any way they can, more importantly, since cuts were imminent.

I guess the next time someone uses nLite to strip parts of Windows, they can beat their chest & claim to have released a new strain of Windows ... adding a roll cage & related rugged off-road capability to a Jeep Wrangler does not imply exclusivity ... lol!

Anyone remotely interested in making their machine annoyingly user-unfriendly can accomplish nearly the same level of security if they have the time to spare ... see below.

http://csrc.nist.gov/itsec/
http://nvd.nist.gov/fdcc/fdcc_faq.cfm
http://iase.disa.mil/stigs/checklis...

I also agree that it shouldn't be news that the Air Force is using a super-secure platform: it is all but expected.

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#13
May 5, 2009 at 04:58:31
Cobra_R

I am not trying to put you down or anything and I will thank you for your interpretation of the news. The problem is that I am linked to so many different scientific news agency feeds that I get this information all the time...As XpUser pointed out...it was not new news and this is for the most extremely troublesome. As you can determine on your own this came out almost 5 years ago.

Every time Microsoft or some other software vendor rolls out another upgraded/updated version of their software is the same as saying "This is a special version" of the software. ....XP Pro SP2 c is a perfect example... as it has it's own COA that is different than any of the other OEM versions... yet , it is no different than the same OEM XP pro SP2 except it has a few more updates installed within the SP2

My reference What is the point is just to that regard. The spin of this whole thing is really kind of ...as Sabertooth pointed out...flat-out disingenuous. Point here is that the concerted efforts by Microsoft is no more than the listening to and relying on all the gathered information...both protests and agreements...from all people that have ever filed a troubleshooting question in any of the somewhat 20 to 40 websites sponsored by the MVP minions and the army of techs like you and me and all that freely volunteer their time to fixing the exploits that we have found.
As was pointed out as well, every time you slipstream your installation on either yours or a customer's new build is in fact a new version of the operating system.

FYI.... in most scientific communities the news that is reported to the general public is actually and can be from 5 to 10 years old. A perfect example is the computers that you and I work on.

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#14
May 7, 2009 at 01:52:32
Well see it may not be news to you but the avg pc users doesn't know about this, in which it is news to them which makes up the majority of pc users out there. Just like someone working for a cpu company for example. Lets say when 32nm first were developed, the people that worked their knew about it before the rest of us did so while it may have not have been news to them by the time it broke out to the media, it was news to everyone else when they first read about it. Get what i'm saying? When you define something that isn't news it may have not been for you since you already knew about this, but for your avg person that doesn't stay up to the minute with something it is news to them.

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#15
May 7, 2009 at 08:39:05
God help us when the Newspapers are Internet based. This Forum begins to resemble Caigslist, Rants & Raves

Now just "What WAS" the point?

There is nothing to learn from someone who already agrees with you.


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#16
May 7, 2009 at 12:42:36
Actually as we speak, All Air Force computers are being upgraded to Vista. So XP isnt going anywhere with AF. Yes they do have the more secure version, as said above, been out for a while.

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#17
May 7, 2009 at 14:23:50
"God help us when the Newspapers are Internet based."

I don't know how long you have been using the internet for but many news papers have gone internet based and the internet still seems fine.

"This Forum begins to resemble Caigslist, Rants & Raves"

So then what do you call this?

"This Forum begins to resemble Caigslist, Rants & Raves

Now just "What WAS" the point?"

Seems like a "Rant" to me.....

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#18
May 12, 2009 at 02:43:11
Cobra_R

M$ finally has something to add to this thread.

There is no special version of XP for the Air Force! Period!

P.S. Who knows they could be lying in order to protect our National Security :-)

i_Xp/VistaUser


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