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Name: mrh584
Date: September 13, 2008 at 21:51:11 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4 2.4 GHz
Product: Gateway
Comment:

When I first got my PC, I immediately started using the built in Admin account. Recently, I created a account with admin privileges. After its creation, I found that the Admin account I had been using was hidden, and I can only access it through safe mode, or by changing the log on style and manually typing the account and password.

Is there anyway I can delete the unwanted account with admin privileges, or move all my files to the unwanted account and just keep the Admin account hidden?



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Response Number 1
Name: BlackFlowerMaddie
Date: September 13, 2008 at 22:35:12 Pacific
Reply:

I wouldn't delete the admin account if I were you, that account is for emergency.

If you still want to delete the account, click start, then click control panel. Click Performances and Maintainence, then click Administrative Tools. Then, go click Computer Management and from there, click on Local Users and Groups and then look in the users and from there, you can do more advanced Windows NT stuff which the normal Windows XP User Account Manager doesn't include. Again, if I were you, I wouldn't delete the Administrator account, I would just disable, NOT delete the Admin account.

I think theres a more easier way of getting to the Computer Management, just click start, then Right Click My Computer and then click Manage and then you are in.

Oh, also if you are using Windows XP Home Edition, the Admin account is just a backdoor so there really is no way of getting rid of the Admin account. You however, cannot access it during normal mode, just safe mode.

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Response Number 2
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: September 14, 2008 at 09:23:14 Pacific
Reply:

"Is there anyway I can delete the unwanted account with admin privileges, or move all my files to the unwanted account and just keep the Admin account hidden?". Do you mean you want to delete the additional account you created and leave the default Admin account hidden? No. You can't do that. Even if you could "hide" the account, how would you login?

Allow me to correct something BFM said:
The default Admin account cannot be deleted; regardless of the OS.

For Security Sake, I recommend the following:

1. Create an additional account with full Administrator privileges.
2. Rename the Default Administrator account (not a good idea to use Administrator as any user name.)
3. Create a Limited User account for normal use.
4. Move/redirect the My Documents folder to a separate partition if possible. If not, create a new folder for it so that it's not tied to the profile in case the profile gets corrupt and is unrecoverable.

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What a shame
To have to beg you to see
We’re not all the same
What a shame" - Shinedown


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Response Number 3
Name: mrh584
Date: September 14, 2008 at 09:57:21 Pacific
Reply:

I wanted to see if it was possible to delete the additional account I created, and go back to using just the default Admin account. However, if I can't delete the additional account, I would just rather transfer all files to the created account since Windows automatically hides the default Admin account when there is another account with admin privileges on the PC.


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Response Number 4
Name: jefro
Date: September 14, 2008 at 11:15:59 Pacific
Reply:

You should never (well almost never) use the admin account. Always use the lease account needed. Use runas to increase for task.

By now you don't know what has hacked your system.

"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10


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Response Number 5
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: September 14, 2008 at 15:15:02 Pacific
Reply:

"I wanted to see if it was possible to delete the additional account I created, and go back to using just the default Admin account." Of course it's possible, but Jefro and I (and many others I'm sure) advise against it.

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What a shame
To have to beg you to see
We’re not all the same
What a shame" - Shinedown


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Response Number 6
Name: mrh584
Date: September 14, 2008 at 17:19:38 Pacific
Reply:

Based on all your advise, I'll go ahead and start using a created account with admin privileges. Just out of curiosity, what are the dangers of using just the default Admin account? Also, how can I transfer my files, and the ability to use installed programs on the new account?


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Response Number 7
Name: jefro
Date: September 15, 2008 at 13:39:22 Pacific
Reply:

" I'll go ahead and start using a created account with admin privileges"

You mean WITHOUT admin privilages.

You normally have to install programs, most will ask if you want all users to use the program.


Again I'd suggest you think about a clean install. Make a limited account and password the accounts. Use runas to install all updates and programs.

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Response Number 8
Name: BlackFlowerMaddie
Date: September 16, 2008 at 14:08:08 Pacific
Reply:

You should never (well almost never) use the admin account. Always use the lease account needed. Use runas to increase for task.

By now you don't know what has hacked your system.


^ Hmm, Interesting. I have been using an Admin account since 2003 and had NO PROBLEM with anything. Since I have a domain, I decided to switch my other users into logging in with no admin priveleges because of the numerous times viruses kept getting on those computers and I had to reimage those computers or even worse, reinstall and activate Windows XP all over again.

I think I am going to need to start using the AD groups which I made and add certain groups to the Admin instead of everybody on those computers, even mine. I had a lot of problems with not having an admin account however, so that is why I am using an admin account on my main computer. I am not dumb to go to a malicious site and get a virus on my system. I however can visit them with the power of virtual machines!

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Response Number 9
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: September 16, 2008 at 16:44:12 Pacific
Reply:

Maddie, you ask a lot of questions that any Domain Admin should already know.

You said "I am not dumb to go to a malicious site and get a virus on my system." It has nothing to do with your being dumb. The fact is, if you use an Admin account as common practice, the vulnerability exits for viruses, spyware, DOS attacks, and many other potential security compromises.

Responsible Admins know this and follow best practices.

"So won’t you give this man his wings
What a shame
To have to beg you to see
We’re not all the same
What a shame" - Shinedown


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Response Number 10
Name: BlackFlowerMaddie
Date: September 18, 2008 at 12:34:04 Pacific
Reply:

I see what you are trying to say Jennifer. So you think I should NOT use Admin? I mean if I don't I would then have to log off and log in as someone else just to do something administrative, espeically when it comes to installing a driver or doing network stuff or install a program, which I could do in Run As, but would be more complicated.

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