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System Crashes bad
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Name: tayeke
Date: January 15, 2008 at 22:08:08 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes badOS: Vista PremiumCPU/Ram: AMD x2 6000+/2gb ddr2 800Model/Manufacturer: Home Built |
Comment: I'm not sure where to begin with this, but my computer is completely randomly crashing. There is no BSOD or anything. It goes straight from me clicking something and watching a video to gone and dead. Then when I reboot the computer the bios speaker doesn't beep and my cd drive will not open, but all the other powered stuff like lights and fans come on. Takes a few tries, but it will eventually turn back on properly. To me it seems like the system is overheating, does anyone else out there agree. I blew all the dust out to help, but it still seems to occur. None of the parts are overly warm to touch, feels very cool inside. Everest says: GPU Mem:56c (this seems quite high, maybe why no display?) GPU Amb:49c CPU:34c Mobo:42c I think it is also possible that my power supply has a problem as some things turn on and others do not when I boot up? Any help appreciated!
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Response Number 1
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Name: suatcini
Date: January 16, 2008 at 02:19:03 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)It seems the temperatures are not so critical. So overheating may not be your problem except that there may be sudden temperature increases. Is this a new home-built PC or has it started to crash only recently ? Have you checked the Event Log to see if anything is recorded to it that may lead to a clue to your problem ? What components do you have installed in the PC and can you calculate the power requirements of those components to see if your PSU is up to par ? Do you suspect of driver conflicts, bad RAM sticks, maybe a short in the M/B ? Have you seated all components properly and made all power connections securely ? Does your graphics card have a separate power connector to which you connected power ? Regards SuatCINI
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Response Number 2
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Name: tayeke
Date: January 16, 2008 at 20:28:45 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)Yes the power goes to a direct graphics slot, I failed to mention that it was connected to the same wire that runs my cd drive (which didn't open). Are there any good resources for calculating power resources? The computer is home built and worked fine for 6 months, other than a macaffee error which gives me a bsod on startup sometime.
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Response Number 3
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Name: suatcini
Date: January 17, 2008 at 00:04:36 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)A power calculator can be found at: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/... Select your components and press Calculate button at Recommended PSU Wattage box close to top right corner and compare the calculated value to that of your PSU specification. Some PSUs may have misleading power rating figures. Please just compare watts to watts and not watts to VAs (Volt-Amperes). They mean different things. Other than that, if your CD-ROM drive tray does not open, which may mean it does not get power or it is a defective component, then you must make certain which. If it does not get power, then your graphics card does not get power, either, resulting in a possible system crash. You can connect the graphics card power cable ( and CD-ROM drive ) to a different power socket from your PSU. Regards SuatCINI
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Response Number 5
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Name: tayeke
Date: January 17, 2008 at 00:47:34 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)A follow up.... According to that site which was very helpfull, I have more than enough power. It even showed I could go to SLI if I wanted to. I took what it recommended and added 100W and I still had enough. ATM I'm failing to remember exactly my Wattage, but it is just above 500W I believe.
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Response Number 6
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Name: RWD1996
Date: January 17, 2008 at 16:20:10 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)You might could try 1 RAM stick at a time. If your PC doesn't crash with just 1 stick installed clean the contacts of the other stick with a pencil eraser and try again. One of your RAM sticks might be bad too, but some experts here don't agree that RAM can go bad. 56 C (132.8 F) sounds way too high for your graphics card temperature, especially when you're only watching video. But since you say that all components feel cool to the touch, that reading might be inaccurate. What is the brand of your power supply? Your wattage might be high enough but you might be using an el-cheapo brand power supply. Those that come with the PC case are nearly always cheapies and fail sooner or later. Most people don't realize just how wonderful Jesus is. Don't miss His free Gift. The link says it all.
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Response Number 7
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Name: tayeke
Date: January 17, 2008 at 16:34:32 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)I got an Apevia 520W power supply. I'll mess with the ram once I finish all thw work i have left to do for school on this computer. I feel I should mention that I do not use a direct 6 pin to my video card, I use the two 4 pins to one 6 pin adapter (didn't realize at time of purchase that 6 pins were being used on the new 8000 series cards :-/ ). The card is XfX 320mb 8800GTS. Here are my actual specs: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+ AM2 2gb Corsair xms2 (2x1gb) Abit Nforce 570 SLI Mobo Apevia 520W P.S. Seagate SATA 3.0Gb/s HD 320Gb XFX 8800GTS 320Mb Sony DVD+R/CDRW Tv Tuner
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Response Number 8
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Name: RWD1996
Date: January 17, 2008 at 16:43:25 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)I've never heard of Apevia till now, but according to here, they are NO GOOD. There's a big problem with inaccurate wattage ratings on their supplies. You'd better try a different PS. Most people don't realize just how wonderful Jesus is. Don't miss His free Gift. The link says it all.
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Response Number 9
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Name: tayeke
Date: January 17, 2008 at 16:49:55 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)I'll keep that in mind and when I make any changes to the system in the near future I will get a new PS. Problem isn't bothering me too much at the moment. Thanks again!
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Response Number 10
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Name: RWD1996
Date: January 17, 2008 at 16:50:44 Pacific
Subject: System Crashes bad |
Reply: (edit)You're welcome! Most people don't realize just how wonderful Jesus is. Don't miss His free Gift. The link says it all.
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