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Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 4, 2007 at 22:06:34 Pacific
Subject: slowest runnign vista machine???
OS: Win XP Pro
CPU/Ram: dual P3 933 / 512MB maxxe
Model/Manufacturer: Custom Built
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I was woundering what is the slowest machine you installed vista on and it was useable? and what verson was it of vista? And i mean the released copys and not the bootleged ones....


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Response Number 1
Name: Cobra_R
Date: February 5, 2007 at 01:34:45 Pacific
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You can run vista on a pentuim 2 400mhz pc with 64mb of ram installed, but you will be waiting 10 minutes just to get into Vista.

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Response Number 2
Name: XpUser
Date: February 5, 2007 at 05:59:03 Pacific
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You can run vista on a pentuim 2 400mhz pc with 64mb of ram installed

You gotta be kidding. The Minimum system requirement for a Vista Capable PC is 800MHz and 512MB RAM. It probably will fully load in 10 minutes.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 3
Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 5, 2007 at 06:56:53 Pacific
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i don't wanna know what Micro$oft says... I want to see what you have installed it on and had it running at an ok speed.


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Response Number 4
Name: Alex2002
Date: February 5, 2007 at 07:13:48 Pacific
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Yeah, surely response 1 is some sort of bad joke :P XP requires 64MB minimum and the Vista setup program sure as hell won't start on anything less than 512MB memory.


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Response Number 5
Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 5, 2007 at 10:14:13 Pacific
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xp requires 64 MB ram.... my IBM 380XD laptop has 96MB ram and xp wouldn't install... i had to put 2000 pro on it then upgrade to get it to load... any other way (ie. fresh install on blank drive) said not enough ram. so xp setup program was a but buggy i'd say....


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: February 5, 2007 at 17:26:59 Pacific
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XP's "minimum requirement for basic functionality" is 233MHz/64MB. M$ states that this "may limit performance and some features". The recommended minimum is 300MHz/128MB but that's really not enough to run XP well. The keyword here is minimum.

Your 380XD at 266MHz/94MB falls right in between. I would have expected XP to install, but it would have been so painfully slow that you'd probably have reformatted VERY shortly afterward. I can't imagine 2K Pro running very well on that machine either. IMO, that's a Win98SE rig at best...WinME if you know how to tame it.


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Response Number 7
Name: Cobra_R
Date: February 5, 2007 at 17:58:25 Pacific
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"Yeah, surely response 1 is some sort of bad joke :P XP requires 64MB minimum and the Vista setup program sure as hell won't start on anything less than 512MB memory."


I ran Vista on my old AMD-K6 550mhz, 256mb of ram, 30gig hard drive, nividia Geforce 4MX card for the hell of it when Vista rc1 came out. It ran, and loaded Vista up in about 20 minutes.LOL. So yeah it does run, but other then seeing if it would run, it shouldn't be used in any other manner.

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Response Number 8
Name: Cobra_R
Date: February 5, 2007 at 17:59:56 Pacific
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it took damn near forever to install though.

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Response Number 9
Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 5, 2007 at 18:23:15 Pacific
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well, XP on my ibm once i use XP Lite to hack the krap out of it ran nice... but with a small hard dirve i dumped it.

Back on topic.... What ahve you put vista on and had it run ok... A little lag is ok... but not a 5 min boot up and shutdown.


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Response Number 10
Name: Alex2002
Date: February 6, 2007 at 03:48:07 Pacific
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"I ran Vista on my old AMD-K6 550mhz, 256mb of ram, 30gig hard drive, nividia Geforce 4MX card for the hell of it when Vista rc1 came out. It ran, and loaded Vista up in about 20 minutes.LOL. So yeah it does run, but other then seeing if it would run, it shouldn't be used in any other manner."

Blimey, I used to run XP on an almost exact same configuration (550Mhz, 320MB RAM, Geforce4 MX) and that was BAD! I'm not the least bit surprised that it took forever to install lol


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Response Number 11
Name: mattie
Date: February 6, 2007 at 06:25:57 Pacific
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733 mhz pIII w. 512 MB ram, geforce 2 and a 7200 rpm hard disc did the vista check for me (40+ min. installation)... but even with all graphic gimmicks disabled, this old PoS didn't get anything near 'performance' :-)

but any p4 (or mad equivalent) with enough memory should run vista quite reasonable, however, it would be outperformed by any machine w. same specs running xp or linux.

Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'


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Response Number 12
Name: Cobra_R
Date: February 6, 2007 at 15:19:15 Pacific
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Man i'd love to see how long it would take if someone had a pentium 1 233mhz with 64 EDO ram installed and a 15 gb hard drive.

My guess is it will get to the welcome to Vista installtion windows and then freeze.

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Response Number 13
Name: mattie
Date: February 6, 2007 at 17:43:18 Pacific
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Pentium 1? no such thing ... Intel's enumeration only started with Pentium 2

the original Pentium CPUs were clocked at a maximum of 200 MHz, however, Pentium MMX clocked at a max of 233 MHz (some very rare mobile MMX chips up to 300 MHz)

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Response Number 14
Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 6, 2007 at 21:07:21 Pacific
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"the original Pentium CPUs were clocked at a maximum of 200 MHz..."

humm... let me go find my old stash of pentium chips... I have a Pentium 233MHz without MMX. Not mobile nor is it a P2.


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Response Number 15
Name: mattie
Date: February 7, 2007 at 01:08:05 Pacific
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huh? would you mind to post an image or the code followed by the clock speed?

Pentium 80500/80501 (60-66 MHz)
Pentium 80502 (75-200 MHz)

Pentium MMX 80503(166-233 MHz)

Pentium PRO 80521 (150-200 MHz)

the Pentium PRO was nice overclocking material but again the official clock speed never exceeded 200 MHz. However, it's design architecture has been used all the way to the Pentium 3, the Pentium 2 was in fact a Pentium PRO with added MMX technology

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Response Number 16
Name: Cobra_R
Date: February 7, 2007 at 21:15:39 Pacific
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Pentium and Pentium 1 is the same thing quit being soo technicaly. Everyone but you seems to know what I mean. It was the first Pentuim of its series so therefor it was also known to many people as the Pentuim 1.

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Response Number 17
Name: mattie
Date: February 8, 2007 at 06:11:19 Pacific
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pentium or pentium 1 ... still, there was no 233 MHz CPU :-)

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Response Number 18
Name: Cobra_R
Date: February 8, 2007 at 17:39:33 Pacific
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The Pentuim MMX was still based on the first generation Pentuim. All the "MMX" did was add accelerate multimedia instructions. So there for the Pentuim 233mhz was still based on the first generation Pentuim.

I mean just because a Pentuim 4 added 2 diff sets of multimedia instructions during it's lifespan are we not going to call it a Pentuim 4. Last time I checked the Pentuim 4 went through the most changes out of any Intel X86 processor in Intel's history and it was still called the Pentuim 4.

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Response Number 19
Name: mattie
Date: February 9, 2007 at 02:26:34 Pacific
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cobra, i know all this ... i'm just curious about bigfoot's non-mmx pentiun cpu clocked with 233 MHz which to the best of my knowledge does not exist.

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Response Number 20
Name: Samt1516
Date: February 10, 2007 at 14:57:15 Pacific
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You guys have WAY too much time on your hands:)


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Response Number 21
Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 15, 2007 at 15:19:40 Pacific
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I'm still looking for it. I think its in an old NEC at my friends house... I;ll be over there this weekend and I'll go upstairs in the garage and dig it out.


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Response Number 22
Name: fiftysixmoha
Date: February 23, 2007 at 15:08:36 Pacific
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Ok, I think i can prolly run vista on my 550Mhz 256MB ram PC, considering I ran XP Pro on a Pentium MMX 200Mhz 96MB Ram, fairly smooth for the hardware i had installed. it was way faster than I thought it would be.


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Response Number 23
Name: fiftysixmoha
Date: February 23, 2007 at 15:11:32 Pacific
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I clocked it to a 233Mhz MMX later!


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