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New Computer For Vista
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Name: Deathlyphil
Date: February 6, 2007 at 03:08:51 Pacific
Subject: New Computer For VistaOS: 2003 Server / Xp Pro Sp2CPU/Ram: AMD 3000+ 1024MB |
Comment: I am considering buying a new computer. I mainly use my computer for playing games, so I've waited until Vista was launched so I could get a Dx10 graphics card. What processor would you recommend? I was considering the Intel E6700 (2.66GHz x2), or since I wont be upgrading for a couple of years, an Intel Q6600 (2.4GHz x4). Does Vista have multicore support? And are Intel core 2's x86 or x64? I would be getting Ultimate, if that makes any diference.
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Response Number 3
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Name: jam
Date: February 6, 2007 at 05:11:29 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Gamers should definitely stick with XP for the time being. If you insist on getting Vista, setup a dual boot system with XP - use XP for gaming & Vista for...uh...what is that Vista is better at again? Oh yeah, it's prettier.
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Response Number 4
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Name: mattie
Date: February 6, 2007 at 06:16:35 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)well ... he wants dx10 so there's no way around vista. google for 'gamers blackmailed vista dx10' and have fun reading through the uproar :-) Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'
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Response Number 5
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Name: Deathlyphil
Date: February 6, 2007 at 06:22:22 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I can imagine what people are saying. Probably quite similar to the people complain about Vista's heavy system requirements. Does anyone remember that XP also needed (at the time) quite a powerful system too? Besides, my current machine is over two years old and is only slightly above the minimum for most new games. So I would be considering a new machine anyway, and OEM Vista is definately cheaper than retail.
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Response Number 6
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Name: mattie
Date: February 6, 2007 at 06:35:08 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)read Tom's Hardware Guide Vista Benchmark and see how badly vista was outperformed by the same system running XP. they've been an Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 (Conroe 65 nm, 2.93 GHz, 4 MB L2 Cache) w. 2 gb and a hi-end graphic card HIS Radeon X1900XTX IceQ3 (650 MHz)512 MB GDDR3 (1550 MHz). http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/... then think again :-) Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'
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Response Number 7
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Name: Deathlyphil
Date: February 6, 2007 at 07:14:35 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)It's difficult to reply to that without going "yeah, but", so I will. Granted Xp beats Vista hands down at the moment, but (hopefully) that will not be true in a few months' time. So if I am buying a new computer I may as well get Ultimate now as an OEM, and run Xp until vista support picks up. It'll be cheaper than buying retail later.
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Response Number 8
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Name: mattie
Date: February 6, 2007 at 07:24:53 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)i'd wait buying a new computer if it has to be vista ... because the hardware you have in mind will perform way better with XP (even in a 'few months' time' :-) and when the teething bugs in vista have been exorcised (hopefully) in a couple of month time you'll find faster CPUs and video cards on the market. Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'
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Response Number 9
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Name: jam
Date: February 6, 2007 at 08:49:33 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)IMO, Vista's rise to glory is gonna be much slower than XP's. There are very few DX10 games at the moment (2?) & very few DX10 video cards (2?) & DX9 games don't perform near as well on Vista because of poor drivers, "psuedo" DX9 support, & "psuedo" openGL support. It doesn't make sense to invest $1000+ in a Vista gaming machine yet, especially when there's no games & no hardware that can really make use of it. In 6-12 months, bugs will be worked out (SP1?), drivers will be perfected (hopefully), there'll be more hardware choices, & hopefully a few more games.
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Response Number 10
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Name: Deathlyphil
Date: February 6, 2007 at 13:36:32 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Yeah, I finally concede the point. I'll wait for a few months before getting a new machine. In the mean time I'll look at getting a new graphics card, one that I can use in my future machine. Oh and $1000? I wish. I was looking at over £1200. Thats over $2200 USD. The comments I'd like to make about the vast mark up on British electronics would almost certainly get me banned from this forum...
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Response Number 13
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Name: mattie
Date: February 6, 2007 at 14:52:05 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)i suppose, Lauren never made it into any best-seller list :-) Today's subliminal thought is: 'Calm down ... it's only ones and zeros.'
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