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Intel says 'no' to Windows Vista
By Tony Smith
26th June 2008 10:22 GMT
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/0...Windows Vista is not for Intel, it has been claimed. The chip giant will not be installing the new operating systems on its many thousands of desktop PCs. It has "no compelling case" to do so.
So claims an insider cited by the New York Times yesterday. A company spokesman admitted the OS was not being rolled out across the corporation, but said Vista will be brought to some departments.
Dare we suggest he only means those divisions charged with writing Vista drivers for Intel's various chip technologies?
After Vista's debut in November 2006, a number of major corporations, Intel among them, went on record to say they would not be implementing Microsoft's latest until the release of Service Pack 1, usually the point at which a version of Windows becomes sufficiently stable for serious big business roll-outs.
"I know of no organisation doing an upgrade before [Service Pack 1]," Paul Otellini told attendees of the Bank of America Technology Conference at the time. "Intel isn't upgrading either."
Well, Microsoft duly release Vista SP1 earlier this year, but that's still not proved enough to float Intel's boat.
The chip giant has some 80,000 employees, which makes for a lot of desktops and laptops to upgrade. The NYT source said Intel had analysed the cost and benefits of migrating these machines at length, but couldn't justify such a move.

Not only is the above status quo with (big) business clients who typically defer major system overhaul & OS upgrades until after one or even two Service Packs, also the released timetable for Windows 7 launch makes a Vista upgrade decision less than compelling--in this case--for Intel & many others in similar situations.
It is a given that an upgrade roll-out of such magnitude is bound to be considerably time & resource consuming even if executed incrementally. All things considered, they might as well hold off--and skip Vista--for Windows 7.

Flash back (The Inquirer news 10 January 2002)
WINDOWS XP might be the "best OS Microsoft ever produced" but it's long time partner Intel thinks that ain't necessarily so.
The corporation, which has around 80,000 employees, is rolling out Windows 2K rather than the latest greatest OS from Microsoft.
The decision was taken last year and Intel will spend much of this year standardising on W2K in every site and country in the world.
Although Intel uses the Microsoft OS for its desktop and for its notebooks, as well as a fair chunk of its servers, its fabrication plants, the factories which make its microprocessors, are run using OpenVMS - a clear vote for the reliability of the OS.
It's just that Intel likes to stay behind the curve once again.http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=481
i_Xp/VistaUser

Yup XpUser...
"I for one would like to go on the record as saying XP sucks.
I am at my second clean install(in 5 days) on a new H/D fully formatted both times and loaded nothing but office and Norton 2002 and it is still an unstable P.O.S.
It freezes,pauses,hangs,skips,reboots and is generally fustrating....----------------
I kept ME on my original drive, and installed xp pro on my backup hard drive to test it out, thinking I would get rid of ME in a couple of weeks after testing xp. Well I'm thinking of getting rid of xp all together, its slow, is a bitch when it comes to keeping devices installed, nearly every second day i have to detect my modem again because xp acts like I had never installed it. Other than that it's nice eye candy and nothing more....
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I will stick with ME indefinitely. I have rarely had trouble with ME, so have difficulty understanding why some people have so much trouble with it....
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Too bad we've reached the point where even Win ME is characterized as old 'n trusty ... Gotta go back to win98 for some semblance of sanity....
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xp stands for
XTRA PAIN in the r----end
XTRA-PROBLEMS for f---sake
XTRA-PAYMENT to BG
XTRA-PRETTY for 300bucks
XMAS PRESENT for MS and Co.please add more if you like:-)....
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well, there you go. last week when i said XP
stands for xtra pretty and is a piece of crap....----------------
I agree most heartily that XP sucks...."
...but it's entertaining just the same!

I've never had the above problems with XP. That post was made just a few months after it came out -- without any service packs either. It's therefore unfounded. I never heard one word about Windows XP until June 2002, and never had the means or money to buy it till December 2004 - after Service Pack 2 was released. I'd never go back to Windows 9x or 2000 because XP beats them all. One thing I don't like about Vista is the Luna theme is gone. It should be there for those of us who still like it (just like Windows Classic still is). I've also done my own benchmarks and find that Windows XP is the fastest.
OTOH, I do like Vista's revised Start Menu, I think it's really nice.
But XP still works and even works better than Vista, IMO. But it's everybody's taste.
Scroll down to the bottom and see just how many people still use XP.

Win ME was a nightmare till i cleanly installed it. Made me realize that the instability was caused by HP's (my PC at the time) junky appware being installed with it. After the clean install it ran quick and stable and still does.
Win XP ran like a pimp for me.. right out of the gate. I installed XP home on my old P3 rig when it first came out and i bought a P4 laptop with XP Pro already installed. (Compaq) In both cases XP ran stable.
Vista.. Now thats another story.. To be fair.. i bought a $600 ACER Extensa 5420 thats rockin an AMD chip. Its not the most powerful system... Having said that.. Vista is a sloppy science experiment. Some of the features are cool like photo gallery and the search if you have it. Some vista machines dont have the search tool in the start menu anymore for some reason.
Going from win me to XP was a huge and neccesary step if you work with your computer as much as i do but vista is like a step back. I never complain about a new OS because i can usually get it running well after toying around with it for a while but this time i cant say that. I have spent the last few months trying to figure simple things out because they have moved them or renamed them or removed them and some things i just gave up trying to find.
Should i put a question here? :)

Listing the specific issues you are having problems with Vista is a great idea. It allows for informed responses & probable solutions from would-be helpers.
Granted the notebook is inexpensive, the Extensa 5420's specification seem adequate enough for Vista. Although, the 5400RPM HDD has always been a turn off for me in notebooks.
I am somewhat confused about the reference to Windows Photo Gallery....
- If your Extensa 5420 came with Vista Home Premium, you should have it. Are you sure you do not have it? On my--Vista Ultimate--machine, I have the standard Photo Gallery as well as the Live Photo Gallery that I downloaded & installed separately.
- Regarding the missing Search button, it really isn't a problem. It was in fact removed from the right side of the Start Menu as part of desktop search changes implemented in Vista Service Pack 1. If you would like a workaround, here's one that ought to help.

I only got vista with my new pc because of dx10 now that I seem not to use dx10 I may buy a copy of XP and use it instead.

I dont have any specific issues with vista. Its a sloppy science experiment. It would take 10 years to address all of the specific issues.
I have photo gallery and i love it. I was just pointing out that its a nice feature for vista.
The search button still exists on the right side of my start menu. I know all about MS removing it and i also know about the work around. But what i am saying is that on some machines, mine in particular, even after service pack 1.. the search button remains. Hence the "science experiment" comment.
Should i put a question here? :)

That is the problem....
A lot of folks can't distinguish between genuine assessment & unsubstantiated rhetoric. They read the drivel & just run with it. The OS may not be perfect--and no OS is--but it is far from being absolute garbage!

It's a matter of opinion. I can truthfully say that my stand against Vista was determined by assessment. You may think that Vista is not absolute garbage, but maybe I do and probably lots of other people do as well (based on my own research). It's just a matter of opinion.
I think there are some Vista fans that cannot determine whether a statement is an assessment or unsubstantiated rhetoric.

For any of those folks reading drivel and running with it....
Tell me why i still have the Search button in my start menu and no one else does. Is it possible that maybe Vista is a sloppy science experiment? Thats what i think anyway.
Search Still In Vista Start Menu
Should i put a question here? :)

Who knows why & what the deal is with your machine, but on my Vista SP1 side of this machine: The albeit minor, antitrust-driven changes observed after installing the Service Pack were consistent with the description in the article (941946) released by M$ on the subject.
With SP1, I am indeed able to change the default desktop search to a 3rd party desktop search like Google should I choose to do that. Before SP1, this was not possible. And the "Search" shortcut pin on the right side of the Start menu did disappear, as well as the "See all results" entry that used to be displayed when a search query is initiated via the Start menu. Instead, I now get "Search Everywhere."
No sloppiness over here ... LOL!

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