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Apple Introduces Safari for Windows

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Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 11, 2007 at 19:43:04 Pacific
OS: Vista RTM + XP Pro + Ku
CPU/Ram: A64 3400+ S754 / 768MB
Product: DIY
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Public Beta Available Today for Windows.

Pricing & Availability
The free public beta of Safari 3 is now available at www.apple.com/safari & a final version of Safari 3 will be available as a free download in October.

System Requirements
Safari 3 for Windows requires Windows XP or Windows Vista, a minimum of 256 MB of memory and a system with at least a 500 MHz Intel Pentium processor.



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Response Number 1
Name: XpUser
Date: June 11, 2007 at 20:43:54 Pacific
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Thanks. Apple calls Safari 3 The World's Best Browser. Is this a Fact or myth or just Apple's wishful thinking? Have you tried it? Do you use it often?

i_XpUser


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Response Number 2
Name: soldano
Date: June 12, 2007 at 00:33:59 Pacific
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I have used Safari for the better part of 2 years and am really happy with it. Never had a Virus or Spyware infection. This off course is purely on a Mac OSX platform but will be interesting to see it perform on a windows platform.

However it is a great browser give it a try.

Any Society That Would Give Up Essential Liberty For Temporary Security Will Lose Both & Deserve Neither.


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Response Number 3
Name: soldano
Date: June 12, 2007 at 00:53:08 Pacific
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LOL...minutes after writing my post I found this http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/...

looks like trying to close up a sieve like Windows is a monster task even for Apple....LOL


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Response Number 4
Name: XpUser
Date: June 12, 2007 at 07:03:29 Pacific
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LOL - thanks for that. I'm passing this up 'cuz I really don't want another browser (I'm already running a few & it's more than 'enuf for me).

BTW if you are curious to know Steve Jobs' real motivations for Safari for Windows, read this blog

i_XpUser


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Response Number 5
Name: Sabertooth
Date: June 12, 2007 at 09:07:20 Pacific
Reply:

Soldano,

I am not going to disagree with you in your decision to have Safari as your default browser on the Mac - that's what one would expect to happen & what Apple would have wished for as well. Unfortunately, you are certainly in the minority as far as using Safari on the Mac goes ........ LOL

It is an open secret that Mac users generally *despise* the propietary browser from Apple. Many did try it out but most have decided not to touch it with a 10' pole. If you go to schools & libraries equipped with Macs - the default browser on systems isn't Safari.....how quixotic for Apple.

I don't see Windows users switching their default browser (whatever that is) to Safari now or even when this goes gold in Q4. My question perhaps; is why, has Apple decided in their infinite wisdom to port a browser that most Mac users have refused to validate on their machine to Windows - huh?

Now to Safari 3. I was cautious to try this out, because of some problems that the first testers ran into, particularly the one relating to disappearing texts. I installed it in XP SP2 mode on the Vista side of this machine. Was it faster ..... who knows? AFAICT, there wasn't a perceptible difference in load times when compared with the other popular browsers - IE7, FF & Opera. I don't know what connection they had used in their tests, but the faster the connection; the harder I assume it would be to gauge this difference, but so far I haven't been able to replicate the agility result posted by Apple.

Interestingly, it doesn't appear to be slower than the popular other browsers which is good. But there are some issues here & there. The one that sticks out the most (in Vista) is rather cosmetic & it relates to the lack of a glass interface in Safari 3, not a big turn off to someone like myself but no less awkward at the same time.

Another one is with plug-ins. I was trying to thwart text ads & since there isn't a "restricted zone" console like in IE, I figured I could get this done with Creammonkey but was unable to do that. By far, the most annoying thing is that Safari's line breaking SUCKS BIG TIME & for anyone posting in this forum they won't like it.

Importing browser favorities needs to be intuitive, this is 2007 & swift synchronization for chores like that should be a walk in the park for Apple. Also what good does enabling a *blank* status bar do if it does not provide any information when enabled or is this just on my machine?

The text size quick keys (Ctrl + +, - & 0) do not work. Safari's page refresh also seem to suffer from brain farts by always defaulting to the top of the page. It would also be nice to be able to resize the browser windows from all sides as well as from the default (bottom left) angle - I guess this one is to be expected from Apple. I haven't gotten around to using the browser very much, so there are definitely peculiarities that I presume others might bring up.

So let's see how things pan out with the 12 reasons (according to Apple) to love Safari 3.

1. Blazing Performance - Didn't happen for me.
2. Elegant User Interface - Didn't happen for me.
3. Easy Bookmarks - I don't FINK so!

4. Pop-up Blocking - Current browser does this!
5. Inline Find - Old gimmick .... yawn!
6. Tabbed Browsing - Current browser does this!

7. SnapBack - Nice but I'm used to the mouse back button on my logitech which Safari doesn't support :-(
8. Forms AutoFill - Current browser does this!
9. Built-in RSS - Current browser does this!

10. Resizable Text Fields - Thanks, but no thanks!
11. Private Browsing - Nice for pr0n *ba-dum tisss!*
12. Security - What security .... where?

The overall verdict for now is that, this is not a keeper for me - I'll try the final after launch (in October) to compare, but I doubt I'll be swayed.

Edit: This can only be "The World's Best Browser" if Dubya is "The World's Smartest Leader".



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Response Number 6
Name: Alex2002
Date: June 12, 2007 at 15:11:37 Pacific
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Tried it earlier, on a Virtual Machine though (i'm not putting this anywhere near my installation!) Obviously I can't judge performance from a VM, but I don't like it at all - the text is all bold, there's just something about it - it almost gave me a headache to use it.

I won't be dumping IE7 or Firefox any time in a hurry - someone i was speaking to on Messenger earlier pointed me out to another post about the browser, claiming it was using close to 200MBs of memory!

P.s - my Virtual Machine was a Windows 2000 Pro one. Somewhat odd then, that Apple claim it only runs on XP and Vista.


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Response Number 7
Name: soldano
Date: June 12, 2007 at 19:43:11 Pacific
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have been fooling around with Safari on an XP Machine
and Vista and am yet to be convinced that it is a faster
browser. It does beat firefox in start up & load up times
however against IE7 I fail to see the difference. It is
interesting that the lack of plugin support make it suffer
just like it does in OSX, some swf files and flash files are
no goers which doesn't surprise me at all however it
would have been nice to see 'em work. I don't see the
immediate need to adopt this browser however any
competition is good. Rivalry & Choice are good! I have
been using firefox and opera in OSX for years and tend to
use these over safari, however, it is there for the just in
case scenarios. I do find safari restrictive or a pain in the
butt to achieve simple tasks, hence why I don't use it as
often as the others. But it is a great way to check webpage
functionality for developers who do not work on Mac
platforms. My notions as to why such a move for safari to
a windows platform is purely for Mac novelty on a PC and
eventual bundling through itunes for greater exposure. I
see it as a good thing and not a bad thing. No-one is
forcing you to use it..but it's just there for just in case
scenarios. Bring on the goodies....but Mac has opened up
a Pandora’s box in trying to keep this thing safe & secure
on a Windows platform since we know the myriad of holes
that have existed and still exist. It's easy to trash
something for the sake of ill thought out macho bravado,
however, it is still a beta and green around the ears. It's
taken MS 10 years+ to try and get IE rightish or at least
on the right path and Firefox nearly 4 and close to 8
considering it was frankenstiened with open source code
from browsers of old.

Time will sort the quirks out.

As for adopting to a different way of doing things well
that's a choice one makes. However it is a choice and
that's a nice thing.

Stay Smooth!

Any Society That Would Give Up Essential Liberty For Temporary Security Will Lose Both & Deserve Neither.


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Response Number 8
Name: Cobra_R
Date: June 12, 2007 at 21:11:02 Pacific
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Whatever gives Microsoft competition i'm all for it. I think the more competition the better for Microsoft because if Safari is doing well, it will make Microsoft try to do even better with its next version of IE, sort of like what Firefox did to IE7.


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Response Number 9
Name: Cathy_Walter
Date: June 13, 2007 at 03:58:59 Pacific
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Just tried it. Looks a litle buggy though now :-(

Windows Vista Ultimate User.


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