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Name: Nicholas (by asquielt)
Date: July 12, 2005 at 09:03:14 Pacific
OS: Windows NT4.0 Workstation
CPU/Ram: Pentium 200Mhz Classic 1
Comment:

does NT4.0 with SP6(a) support PnP . I want which IRQ's I could have to assign the three cards I will put in the computer , or won't I have to worry about assigning anything ? I'm going to put a 56k Internal Modem (PCI1), an S3 2mb PCI graphics card(PCI2) and a Creative SoundBlaster SBv16s ISA card(ISA2) .

dumb-b_m



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Response Number 1
Name: hiho
Date: July 12, 2005 at 10:06:54 Pacific
Reply:

NO, NT4 is not Plug'n'Pray aware. Make sure the entry in BIOS is set to NON P&P O/S and if applicable do not assign any IRQ's, except IRQ5 for ISA. Usually PCI Graphics Card Drivers are IRQ10, so it may be best not to install the Modem until everything else is setup and running OK, good luck.


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Response Number 2
Name: Nicholas (by asquielt)
Date: July 12, 2005 at 15:51:40 Pacific
Reply:

okie dokie , thanks .
a last question before trying the install . This will be the first install of Windows NT I have tried . Well the second actually , but this time I actually want to install Windows NT .
I think I want to install the boot files and the system files into the one primary partition on the harddrive of 4Gigabites and then make the rest of the 10Gigabyte harddrive an extendeded partition but I do not understand why .

dumb-b_m


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Response Number 3
Name: CoffeeBreak
Date: July 12, 2005 at 17:58:06 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Asquielt,

You might want to look at your NT CD at:

D:\CDFS\DRVLIB\PNPISA\X86|PNPISA.SYS

If you find this file with Windows NT Explorer, I think if you right click the file, it will give you the option to install it.

After it is installed, go to Start> Settings> Control Panel> Services and it will show "Plug and Play."

The version that I have is 11-23-99, 11:04AM. size 22,864

The program should now be able to detect new hardware.

CoffeeBreak


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Response Number 4
Name: hiho
Date: July 12, 2005 at 22:50:09 Pacific
Reply:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;138364

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;170677


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Response Number 5
Name: hiho
Date: July 12, 2005 at 22:52:01 Pacific
Reply:

CoffeeBreak: NT4 DOES NOT DO PLUG'N'PLAY, the file you pointed out is a driver which allows NT4 to install the required drivers for plug'n'play hardware.


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Response Number 6
Name: CoffeeBreak
Date: July 13, 2005 at 11:54:42 Pacific
Reply:

Of course hiho is correct, NT does not do Plug’N’Play. Microsoft will tell you that “Windows NT 4.0 does not support Plug and Play” and that ”Before you install any Plug and Play devices, you must install the pnpisa.sys from the Windows NT 4.0 Workstation CD-ROM.” If I gave anyone the impression that NT was Plug’N’Play, I am sorry. If that was the case, you could install a Plug and Play device, power up your computer and use it. I was trying to share some information that might be of some help to NT users. What I was trying to say was (a) where to find the pnpisa.sys file (location on CD), (b) how to install it (right click the file while in Windows NT Explorer, etc), (c) how to check to see if the file was installed (control panel, services, and scroll down the list and look for the words “Plug and Play” (Microsoft’s words, not mine), and (d) and final results to expect (able to detect new hardware). I would not consider being able to detect new hardware the same thing as a computer having the full functionally of a plug and play system, however, other people can certainly disagree.

I have used the pnpisa.sys file several times over the years. The last time was about four months ago installing a modem. Another way to check to see if this file is installed is: Using Registry Editor, look for:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, HARDWARE, RESOURCEMAP, OtherDrivers and see if “pnpisa” is listed. Yes, a driver!

Hiho, if you had shared the information in Microsoft’s Article ID No. 170677 in your first posting, I would not have replied to asquielt’s message.


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Response Number 7
Name: hiho
Date: July 13, 2005 at 12:10:12 Pacific
Reply:

I was trying not to get the OP in too deep, quite often the pnpisa.sys is built into the driver package, therefore have never had the need to use it.


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Response Number 8
Name: Nicholas (by asquielt)
Date: July 13, 2005 at 22:42:13 Pacific
Reply:

good evening hiho and coffee break
I have just got to the Bios Setup page in the computer in my computer profile , this being my first attempt to put a computer together though I have had a little practice with maintaining an Athlon 2600 MSI K7N2G-L computer .
I have to learn about the Bios settings then I will set up the bios , correctly I hope .
I'm hoping the PnPISA driver will be in the NT files at installation anyway or at least in the system files by the SP6(a) update .
The Award Bios v4.51PG indicates plenty of PnP entries but the Bios date is 6/19/98430TX - W977 - 2A59I52FC - 00 .

dumb-b_m


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Response Number 9
Name: Nicholas (by asquielt)
Date: August 29, 2005 at 17:48:45 Pacific
Reply:

My real question is about configuring NT for ISA and PCI cards . I have learned something from your posts though , thankyou .
Because NT is not plug and play but will detect plug and play hardware with the PAPISA.SYS driver it will detect the cards I put into the computer .
The cards i will put in the computer are a 3Com Ethernet Card and a Keycorp graphics card .
I have presumed I enter Bios where the list of ISA and PCI IRQ's are and somehow assign addresses for them .
Both these cards are old and I have read I should find the addresses from the manufacturers websites or find them on the cards themselves but i have never seen cards addresses on manufacturers websites and I can not see addresses on the cards . Maybe I've not looked for the addresses properly but I have an idea as to what addresses should look like ; like 0EfC or something like that .
Should I choose from the 4 or 6 options on the top right of the Bios setup page to choose from the addresses there ?
But I don't understand what to do with those options on the ISA/PCI Setup page .

du_a_mb


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Response Number 10
Name: Nicholas (by asquielt)
Date: August 30, 2005 at 20:34:49 Pacific
Reply:

I meant to write the...' PNPISA.SYS ' driver in my last post above .


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Response Number 11
Name: Nicholas (by asquielt)
Date: August 30, 2005 at 20:42:41 Pacific
Reply:

Actually I can't find NT4.0 drivers for the old Keycorp graphics card so I have to wait until I find a graphics card I can use .


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