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Name: Bill Courtney
Date: April 6, 2001 at 11:38:47 Pacific
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Aloha kakou,
I have a 20gb drive. 2000 Serv0er installed
in the 1st 8gb. I want to put NT Server on
the 2nd 8gb. No matter what the partition
size is, NT says it's too big. This also
happened when I tried to install it in the
1st 8gb before i installed 2000 Server. Any
ideas?? Please respond to ccc@maui.net.

Mahalo,
Bill



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Response Number 1
Name: lm-s
Date: April 8, 2001 at 12:50:50 Pacific
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NT cannot create a partition in excess of 4Gig during installation - no matter where it is on the drive. NT creates a max 4Gig partition (as FAT16) and then converts to NTFS later on in the set-up if required. To install into a larger partition one way is for you to create it first (NTFS) on another NT system...

From:

http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dtv96nkz/cih/partition_tables_properties.htm

"The system partition in Windows NT 4 must be contained in the first 7.8 GB of the disk (or less, in case the BIOS geometry does not have 255 heads and 63 sectors/track; the actual restriction is that all of it must be accessible using BIOS Int 13). It must not be larger than 4 GB because Windows NT 4 first installs into a FAT16 partition and then converts it into NTFS during the second phase of the installation. It must start before the 4 GB mark (bug fixed in Service Pack 5). See Windows NT 4.0 Supports Maximum of 7.8-GB System Partition and Windows NT Partitioning Rules During Setup and Boot Partition Created During Setup Limited to 4 Gigabytes and Windows NT Does Not Boot to a Partition That Starts More Than 4 GB into Disk."

Another site, with more detailed info on this issue:

http://www.win.tue.nl/math/dw/personalpages/aeb/linux/partitions/partition_types-2.html

M$ info:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q224/5/26.ASP

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q138/3/64.asp

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q184/2/99.ASP

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q197/2/95.ASP

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q198/9/04.ASP

I think you can see that you have to put NT first, within the contraints outlined above..., then W2K. Also W2K transforms NTFS4 into NTFS5... so you need SP4 or later to access it...

If you are willing to start afresh, create a small C: system FAT16 partitin (active primary) and install NT first into a (the first) logical-drive in the Extended partition; create a common data area after it; create a logical-drive for W2K; install W2K last!

You must also address the 20Gig drive size for NT; you need to install the updated ATAPI.exe...

I think this is the link for John Savill's FAQ's item about this issue - part of the Installations section.

http://www.windows2000faq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=13894

(site = http://www.windows2000faq.com)

If starting over... you are into some creative work to get it all working OK...


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