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NT instalation on slave drive

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Name: TP
Date: May 21, 2000 at 17:25:07 Pacific
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Need help installing NT 4.0 on a slave drive.
Master is running Win 98 with FAT 32. I've tried all kinds of partion schemes with the slave but each time I get to the "choose partition" screen it tells me it is not a NT compatible partition and to create one with the "c" command. I do this and it still says it is not compatible. Could someone please just give me the steps for installing NT on a fresh slave drive off of a CD. Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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Name: DMS
Date: May 21, 2000 at 20:34:36 Pacific
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NT must boot from either a FAT16 partition or an NTFS partition. The boot or active partition on your machine is FAT32...


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Response Number 2
Name: Col
Date: May 22, 2000 at 06:20:02 Pacific
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I could be wrong, but I think that NT only likes being installed on Drive1. You'd be far better formatting the first drive as a number of Fat16 partitions and installing both 98 and NT on that drive.

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Response Number 3
Name: LM-S
Date: May 22, 2000 at 19:49:50 Pacific
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Critical item for dual-boot NT/'9x is that the system (active primary) partition has to be FAT16. This partition can be quite small say around 100Megs; but I prefer it around 250Meg to allow for future trouble shooting options...

This partition will the C: system partition; the actual OS's ('9x and NT) can go in separate partitions and be whatever FAT format you choose...

Some general info:

If you install NT first, then before installing '98 make an ERD for the NT system. '98 is described as NT friendly and shouldn't under normal circumstances damage (overwrite) the NT boot-loader; but just in case, have that ERD around for afterwards... '95 will 'damage' the NT boot-loader and you will need to run the ERD sequence for NT afterwards. If however you boot from DOS (ideally 6.22) and install '95 from that level, then it doesn't damage the NT boot-loader... (but again have an ERD around...)

Installing '9x first of course removes this 'risk'...

Back to your scenario...

If you can't fulfill the FAT16 system requirement (because you don't want to do a re-install, which is the ususal recommended route to get around the FAT32 problem... or for any other reason...), then a Boot-manager may offer you a way out.

http://www.webdev.net/orca/nojava/faq.htm

is a useful place to look for ideas on this item...

If you do not want to re-install '98, don't want the Boot-manager route either (and it's not always the ideal...) but are willing to convert '98 back to FAT16 (with awareness of the 2Gig partition limit, which means you have to resize etc... using PM 5...) then you can fulfill the basic condition for NT/'9x and install NT into its own 'space' (another HD in your case) whilst allowing NT to deposit its start-up files in the now FAT16 '98 C: system (active primary) partition. A FAT16 '98 OS area need not contain your data files...; these could be contained within a properly derived/created (via PM) FAT32 extended partition..., leaving just the OS/applications in the FAT16 area?

I've read of one chap who used PM 5 to free up some HD space (in your case on the Master) created another FAT16 partition, ahead of the exisitng FAT32 '98 partition, marked it active, installed NT into its own space (the 2nd HD in your case...) via this 'new' system FAT16 partition, and it all worked OK... (NT deposited its start-up files into the 'new' FAT16 system (active primary) partition... Can't vouch for it personally, as I haven't tried that approach entirely.

Of course NT can't see' FAT32, and '98 can't see NT when either OS is active; but both will be there in the NT boot menu...

There are utils from:

http://www.sysinsternals.com

that get around the issues of '98 and NT not 'seeing each other's preferred file formats...

http://www.computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/forum/3279.html

'recently' offered an interesting approach;

and

http://www.computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/forum/4558.html

an earlier post, by 'yours truly', includes assorted dual-boot info., links and other data...


Of course you could get around all of the FAT32 problems by going straight to W2K, which happily relates to/co-exists with FAT32...

Good luck.

LM-S


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