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Name: jimclake
Date: December 31, 2003 at 14:02:11 Pacific
Subject: NT home LAN unable to logon
OS: Windows NT 4.0
CPU/Ram: K6-2 333
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Have a home LAN setup with NT server (stand alone server) and 3 client PCs (W2K, NT Workstation & Win 98)...all assigned to a workgroup called THE_WORKGROUP. I can see the client PCs (CLIENT_101, CLIENT_102, & CLIENT_103) from the server's Network Neighborhood. I have setup a user called "test" and can logon to the server using this user but not from any of the client PCs.
Is there something in the User Manager I'm missing? Do I need to set up some sort of resource sharing for user "test" such as a drive on the server? I set up drive D: on the server as a shared resource but that doesn't seem to make a difference.
Thanks for any help.



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Response Number 1
Name: wanderer
Date: December 31, 2003 at 16:08:16 Pacific
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what is it you are expecting?

"I have setup a user called "test" and can logon to the server using this user but not from any of the client PCs."

You also have to have the "test" account on the ntwkst and 98. No account no access to the share on the server.

Remember now that you are in a workgroup not a domain. Each pc has its own account database which includes share access.

In addition you need to use server manager on each ntwkst [both wkst and server] and add the machine account [so server adds wkst and wkst adds the server]

Make a "test" account on each pc with the same password. Set up shares with full control and no restrictions.

Now see how your networking is working.


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Response Number 2
Name: jimclake
Date: December 31, 2003 at 16:19:59 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I am expecting to be able to logon as "test" from any of the client machines.
Question...does the NT server have to be a PDC in order to accomplish this? Or can it be done with it simply being a stand alone server?
Thanks.


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Response Number 3
Name: wanderer
Date: January 1, 2004 at 14:05:21 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

You should expect to logon TO any machine using the "test" account. You should NOT expect to then access any machine on the ntwk until you have provided the correct authenication information to access a share on a remote machine.

If you have a pdc you don't logon to a server. You logon to a domain which can be a individual server or multiple servers. This is client/server

You are in a peer to peer setup. You logon to a workstation that is a member of a workgroup. You can access other workgroup members shares if you provide authenication credentials.

Working with NT is more complicated then just 98 or ME. In NT you also have machine accounts [server manager as I mentioned before. You don't even get to the user authenication until you have been authenicated by machine account.

With MS NOS [network operating systems] you can do pure server/client where you only logon to the domain and access what is available with from the server(s) or you can do a mixture of server/client and peer to peer.

I am guessing from your response to "what were you expecting" that you were thinking along the lines of a domain. You logon to the local workstation which then logs onto the domain and you are presented with a domain logon box. You do not get a logon box with peer to peer. You can still access shares on the server but you have to have the right credentials as I mentioned before.

make sense?


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