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No USB Support for NT!

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Name: Linda Crowder
Date: April 17, 2001 at 10:53:41 Pacific
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I would be perfectly happy to upgrade to Win 2000 if it worked. I did install it and later regtetted it. It didn't recognize one of my HDDs as being UDMA, it kept losing one of my CD ROM drives, when I used my scanner, it would install it 15 times, explorer kept putting the wrong password in and I would have to manually type it in every time I logged onto the web, and lastly it ran way slower than NT4. Also, I forgot, neither my mike nor my keyboard (synthesizer) works in 2000. I wish pressure could be put on Microsoft to write a patch for USB support in NT4.



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Name: mike
Date: April 17, 2001 at 12:12:12 Pacific
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i doubt they will listen, especially now, microsoft is about to dumb NT 4.0
they just cancled service pack 7,
they arn't going to be releasing anything new for NT 4.0
IE 6.0 and Media player 8, will not be officially installable on NT4.0
just as they are now for Win95.
there are some 3rd party software that will add usb support into NT 4.0, i can't remember where, but its out there


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Response Number 2
Name: Paul
Date: April 17, 2001 at 12:20:00 Pacific
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Try putting this on techrepublic and you'll get your answer. You can get usb working on nt but you need to make the changes in the reg. Goood luck


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Response Number 3
Name: Linda
Date: April 17, 2001 at 12:48:00 Pacific
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How can I find out what changes have to be made to the registry?


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Response Number 4
Name: Dr. Zhivago
Date: April 17, 2001 at 22:37:56 Pacific
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Chill out on the obsolescence of NT hype. Some of us here on the forum expect to be around for quite awhile.

As for USB on NT 4.0, see this link:

http://www.bsquare.com/products/devtools/usbwin40/default.asp


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Response Number 5
Name: Steve
Date: April 17, 2001 at 23:57:48 Pacific
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According to their web site:

"USB For Windows NT 4.0 does not support any other devices, or hubs that support the four devices, than the ones listed above, mice, keyboards, printers, and Pocket PC cradles."

... so it's not much use for scanners, external drives (hard or Zip), PCMCIA adapters, etc. ... pretty limited.

What can you achieve by reg fiddling?

(btw, I don't think bemoaning MS's greed/arrogance/stupidity is 'hyping the obsolescence of NT' - we'd all like to see it SP'd to keep up with handy modern interfaces like USB and FireWire)


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Response Number 6
Name: vivah8t
Date: April 18, 2001 at 13:33:10 Pacific
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In the future I would recommend researching your OS's prior to upgrading. It is easy to upgrade then blame the OS when nothing works. It is not Microsofts responsibility to provide updates indefinately. All you have to do is research your hardware prior to upgrading and it will make your life much easier. If you MUST have USB, then choose an operating system more compatible for your needs.

As for "... so it's not much use for scanners, external drives (hard or Zip), PCMCIA adapters, etc. ... pretty limited"

I have used scanners, zip drives, digital cameras, etc. on NT without problems. The reason why? I only buy products for an NT 4.0 system that are compatible with NT 4.0



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Response Number 7
Name: Trev
Date: April 18, 2001 at 13:57:49 Pacific
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The last comment was real helpful.

What can we do if we have NT and want to connect Web Cams and digital Cameras to the machine.

Also if we get the hardware to recognise the UB port will the drivers supplied with the new hardware run and install?


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Response Number 8
Name: Linda
Date: April 18, 2001 at 15:40:58 Pacific
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SP6/6a for NT4 was released a good 18 months after my MB (w/USB port) was maunfactured. Still, in that time M$ could not come up with a USB fix for NT. What does that tell you?


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Response Number 9
Name: vivah8t
Date: April 18, 2001 at 15:55:49 Pacific
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For Trev,

If you want to connect Web Cams and digital cameras, assuming you haven't already purchased them, make sure you buy one that comes with a serial or parallel interface. If you've already purchased one, you could try to buy an usb to parallel or usb to serial adapter, but they are not guranteed to work.

If you were to get the hardware to recognize the USB port AND you had the drivers, then sure it would probably work. You will find, however, that most companies will not even provide USB drivers for NT 4.0. For instance, digital cameras usually come with a usb, parallel, and maybe a serial adapter for connection to your computer. They will only provide NT drivers for parallel and serial. It is not worth their time and effort to make drivers for USB. In that aspect you are not only limited by NTs lack of USB support, you are also limited by the company making the product. So, a word to the wise, if you have an NT 4.0 system do not buy a product whose only connection method is USB.


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Response Number 10
Name: Dr. Zhivago
Date: April 21, 2001 at 02:30:09 Pacific
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I own one machine which shipped with a USB port. I disabled the port in the system BIOS to free up the IRQ, DMA, etc. for use by a SCSI controller and subsystem.

I think Microsoft has been as generous as can be expected with Service Packing NT 4.0



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Response Number 11
Name: Me
Date: June 18, 2001 at 02:36:37 Pacific
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I'm late to the fray but.... the world's richest company, cannot support USB operations on its biggest revenue earner? Of course not... if it did, you would not *have* to shell out *again* on its latest offering, and it would then not have enough cash to continue to fund the army of lawyers it requires to defend itself from the sustained attack by those wronged (over and over) by it dodgey business practices!

The amazing thing is that so many people are prepared to foregive and forget the past and jump to the companies defense!

I sometimes wonder if there is some kind of subliminal mind conditioning built into their stuff!


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