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Name: sumoon
Date: April 15, 2007 at 19:52:33 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
OS: windows nt 4.0 BDC
CPU/Ram: 512 MB
Model/Manufacturer: Microsoft
Comment:

hi,

i can't login our windows nt 4.0 BDC server using administrator password. is it possibile to reset the windows nt4.0 BDC admin password using any bootdisk. please suggest any solution to recover the password ASAP.

Thanks

P. Sumathi


sumoon


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Response Number 1
Name: trvlr
Date: April 19, 2007 at 06:17:55 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
Reply: (edit)

Being a BDC presumably the drive is ntfs...

There are utils out there that allow you reset the password; and also booting with (Knoppix) linux on a CD will allow it...

If you need more input - post back and I'll point you to more specific info/resources.


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Response Number 2
Name: sumoon
Date: April 22, 2007 at 09:38:09 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
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hi trvlr,
thanks for ur info. i did reset the administrator password using this tool "Offline NT Password & Registry Editor, Bootdisk". But, that tool did reset the local administrator password of BDC. i can't login to the Domain of BDC and showing "The system could not log you on to this domain because the system's computer account in its primary domain is missing or the password on that account is incorrect.". please suggest me how to login to the domain of BDC.

Thanks

sumoon


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Response Number 3
Name: trvlr
Date: April 22, 2007 at 11:00:48 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
Reply: (edit)

Did you make an ERD (Emergency Repair/Recovery Disk) for this BDC when you set up the system?


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Response Number 4
Name: sumoon
Date: April 23, 2007 at 20:11:27 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
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hi trvr,
i didn't do ERD for BDC.
This BDC is a testing machine to do disater recovery test. so, BDC is offline now. i can login locally but can't login to the Domain using administrator password. so, i can't bring BDC to the Domain. please give me any suggestion to bring back the BDC ASAP.

thanks.

sumoon


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Response Number 5
Name: trvlr
Date: April 24, 2007 at 03:28:55 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
Reply: (edit)

(It's been an aeon or three since I really played with NT systems... was just after the last ice-age...)

"...This BDC is a testing machine to do disater recovery test. so, BDC is offline now..." and now you have "a minor" disaster...

mmm - no ERD - naughty naughty - especially for BDC...

Where are the account details for this BDC stored (on the PDC perhaps?).

Have a read of:

http://docs.rinet.ru/UNT4/ch06/ch06...

http://docs.rinet.ru/UNT4/ch18/ch18...

(and maybe the whole "book" - there is link to its contents at the bottom of the page...)

You use Server Manager to access/change the account details for each PC on the domain.

So go to the PDC and access the account that BDC... Then

When you do get this BDC back again; make an ERD for it and keep it safe and current/up-to-date. And somewhere secure maybe make a record of all passwords etc.; somewhere only those (trusted) with authority can access them?


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Response Number 6
Name: sumoon
Date: April 25, 2007 at 01:32:59 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
Reply: (edit)

hi trvlr,
we have a BDC (production) online now. BDC of both prodcution and testing following the same configuration(same ip address, computername etc). is it possible to make a ERD on production BDC to repair testing BDC.

Note:
Sometimes we will put testing BDC for production also. so, both BDC have same configuration

Thanks.

sumoon


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Response Number 7
Name: trvlr
Date: April 25, 2007 at 04:41:15 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
Reply: (edit)

Usual answer to using an erd from one installation on another - is no...; and to the best of my knowledge it remains that way. An erd is specific to the system it was made on.

Check out the refs. I posted abov; see if you can locate the account for this BDC and set a new password for it that way (Server Manager util?).

Failing that... possibly an in-place repair may help. This as in re-install the OS (again as a BDC) - to exactly the same folder-name/location etc. as it is now; via a standard floppies + CD (or CD only boot) - not from witn the actual OS when booted locally. In other words follow standard installation procedure for a BDC but to same directory.

Two approaches to "repairing NT" - with and without and erd; and where sp4 or later is involved... are disussed at (and you may need to use the last routine in the duscussion as you have no erd...)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q19...

This one is the usual repair routine:

http://windowsreinstall.com/install...

This article is a lengthy and knowledgeable discusion on pasword s etc... and includes this (second) link (see immediately below the main one):

http://www.windowsnetworking.com/kb...

http://www.lostpassword.com/windows...

The utilitiy is not cheap... (and there are several others referred to in the article) but then experience inevitably does have to be paid for... ; but it may do what you want...?

I'd be wary of changing admin passwords for the whole installation - going for a restore of current one to problem system would be better... A rebuild (in-place upgrade/repair of problem system) would be my likely option if I can't detect (but carefully avoid changing) the actual password on on another working system using one of the utils in the above article? But if you do end up resetting entire system admin passowrd... - go carefully...; and ensure that you keep a note of each system's data; that you have erd for "every" pc on the lan - before and after any changes; that you test the admin password out on each system. In truth I doubt I would go that far; why risk wrecking (locking your self out completely of a ) working system for one bdc...; rebuild the bdc instead?

My feeling is that an in-place upgrade (re-install) over the current bdc installation - as though installing it for the first time (thus you ensure you are on the lan at appropriate time) may resolve it all.

Also I'd locate/delete the SAM file from the current (problem bdc) instllation - first. And maybe copy it to a floppy - or park it somewhere on the drive in a specific folder; just in case you need to restore it if the in-place/upgrade doesn't go thru' (although it's clearly not much use)?

By deleting the existing SAM you will definitely be asked for a new password for/during the upgrade installation; and I'm presuming that this will find it's way to the PDC in due course and allow you to log in to the domain anon?

Also once you delete the SAM file on a system it will automatically ask for an Admin account login/password (new in both cases) on next boot up . But this will be a local-level if I'm thinking correctly; not sure if it will go thru to Domain level and allow you domain access/control etc; one can only try. And I'd give this a try out before going the in-place upgrades etc; who knows it might do what's required? Not having been in your precdicament... I'm not drawing on personal experience...

And again - when you do get this bdc up again... make an ERD; keep it safe etc...; and do the same for all other pcs on the lan - regardless of their status. You are learning the hard way why one has such items...

If you are willing to try it.. and if it works - fine; it it doesn't then a rebuild (one way or another) of the problem bdc will (almost certainly?) be required..., try an erd fromaanothe bdc, IF - and it's a big IF - the two systems are truly identical in terms of hardward, motherboard - everything critical... - it "might" just work? I haven't tried it ever; none of my systems are twins; and I know of no-one who has tried/done it successfully; but who knows? As a last resort prior to a rebuild (in-place upgrade or whatever) it may not hurt to try?


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Response Number 8
Name: sumoon
Date: April 25, 2007 at 20:02:36 Pacific
Subject: can't login windows nt4.0 BDC
Reply: (edit)

hi trvlr,

thank u very much for ur info. Better, i do inplace upgrade over BDC.

Thanks.

sumoon


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