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Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc

Original Message
Name: Rhod
Date: March 9, 2005 at 22:22:06 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
OS: Win NT
CPU/Ram: 2.8 Ghz
Comment:
Hi,

Anybody can help me out about my problem in installing win nt server 4.0 to P4 pc with 40 Gb hdd and 2.8 CPU.

Whenever I got into the installation process I always endup with blue screen and show up this error:

Stop 0X0000003E (0X00000080, 0X00000000, 0X00000000, 0X00000000)

p5 - 0000 irql:1e SYSVER 0XF0000565

If anyone who can share their work around that would be great!

Thanks in advance!


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Response Number 1
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: March 10, 2005 at 00:13:55 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
Somebody in another forum said [I think quoting M$] that NT4 will not work on FAT32.

Needs to be FAT16 or NTFS.

M2


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Response Number 2
Name: Ole Schooler
Date: March 13, 2005 at 00:50:17 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
Rhod,

Have read what M2G has said as well, not sure if it will solve your problem. Keep in mind if you have to use FAT16, you will need to partition your drive down to a smaller size.

Be a good time to just have a small C:\ drive partition 5-7 Gb would seem good, for just the Op System. Then use the rest of the drive for whatever. This has many advantages, to protect that Op System drive. At a minimum you will need this to install NT4.

Once you get it up and running, using Disk Manager you can then partition, format and configure the remaining part of your hard drive. No doubt that it will run like a scalded dog now, NT4 loves high powered processors and lotsa RAM.

Good Luck and let us know how it worked out OK ! ! ! !

Cheers
~OS~


"Suppose you were an idiot ... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." --Mark Twain


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Response Number 3
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: March 13, 2005 at 06:27:12 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
FAT16 is limited to 2GB.

M2


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Response Number 4
Name: trvlr
Date: March 15, 2005 at 07:49:46 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
NT handles fat16 to 4Gig max; dos/'9x handles fat16 to 2Gig max.

Presumably you are not attempting to install NT to the whole drive...?

NT installation allows you to create a partition upto 4Gig partition and format as fat16/ntfs; balance of drive is then configured later via disk Admin tools. Also you need to apply SP4 or later to (actually the updated atapi.sys from SP4 or later) during setup to have acess to full drive.

When NT is installed to run as ntfs from start (and creates its Primary partition in the process) it first creates a fat16 partition and then converts it later to ntfs (and that 4Gig partition limit applies). Same 4Gig size applies to a fat16 only installation to the Primary...

Another issue here (possibly) is RAM; it may not be quite upto NT standards, you may have a faulty stick or more?

If you want NT boot-partition (where the system files reside) to exceed 4Gig (and thus as ntfs) then you have a little more work to do. It's not much and details can be provided if need-be.


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Response Number 5
Name: Sandstorm
Date: March 20, 2005 at 13:09:24 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
I'm trying to install NT on a 20 gig harddrive so how would I be able to install it without first creatng a 4GB partition?


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Response Number 6
Name: trvlr
Date: March 24, 2005 at 15:25:10 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
Simplest way to do what you want - more or less....

Create a small fat16 Primary partition - make it 250Meg. max. Install NT there (via usual NT CD boot or the 3 floppies + CD) and apply the updated atapi.sys (from SP4 or later) during installation. Apply the current SP (6a?). Then use Disk Admin tools to configure balance of drive as a single (Extended) partition; format it as ntfs. Afterwhich install NT again and this time point it to install to the newly created/preformatted ntfs Extended partition.

Again apply the updated atapi.sys during setup, and also the SP in use to the completed installation.

You get a dual-boot NT/NT system. The second installation will already have set itself as default OS to boot; leave it that way. The ntfs version is the one you really want...

You can either delete the version in the small Primary fat16 partition - or leave it be. Personally I'd leave it there; useful recovery route/option in the future...

You get almost the whole of the 20Gig as a single NT (ntfs) installation - the 250Gig partition is peanuts, and will not really be missed as useful space. Both installations will boot via the boot/start-up files in the small Primary.

Make the ERD for the main version; maybe one for the Primary installation too. Keep safe/current.

Job done.

Personally I'd use only part of the drive for the main installation; use some of the drive for data only? I.e. Subdivide the Extended partition into two logical-drives. First one is for the NT installation (the boot-partition in M$ NT Speak - where the system files go); the second will be data. Make the boot-partition around 5Gig-10Gig max; it's usually more than enough for NT??? Balance of drive (Extended partition) for data?

Need more input on this one - post back...?


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Response Number 7
Name: InTRUdEr
Date: April 1, 2005 at 22:02:33 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
U must install Win NT with setup disks or CD. I installed from HDD. It creates 3 floppys. And after this it want's them to load setup and this will prepare your HDD for running Win NT on your drive. I wasted all day for NT 4 installing. But now i know what the problem was :P
And it works, drivers for sound also works perfecto.

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Response Number 8
Name: trvlr
Date: April 1, 2005 at 23:47:50 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
You don't have to install NT via the floppies and/or the CD; it can be done from the hard-drive - and without creating the floppies in the process.

Use the /b switch in the command line to stop production of floppies......

Change to the i386 folder and run:

winnt /b

or at the c: prompt type:

c:\i386\winnt /b

(presuming the i386 is in c: )

However you still have the issue of partition size(s) to contend with regardless and service-packs (updated atapi.sys).


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Response Number 9
Name: trvlr
Date: April 1, 2005 at 23:54:09 Pacific
Subject: Can't isntall WinNTS 4.0 to P4 pc
Reply: (edit)
And if you want to go the whole hog use the command:

C:\winnt.exe /b/x /s:c:\i386\winnt

is the command to use.

/b = floppyless install;
/x = make no setup floppies;
/s: = location of winnt.exe;
in this case /s: = c:\i386\winnt


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