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Name: james
Date: June 25, 2001 at 04:08:59 Pacific
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I'd like to hear peoples views, good or bad on Zone Alarm. Is it that good?, is there a better free alternative?.




Response Number 1
Name: Eric
Date: June 25, 2001 at 04:30:37 Pacific
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Zone Alarm is one of the best personal firewalls on the market. I have used it for a long time without a problem. I decided to upgrade to the Pro version as it does have some extra features and I believe a company producing a product deserves to be compensated.



Response Number 2
Name: Johanovitch
Date: June 25, 2001 at 05:37:41 Pacific
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This website convinced me immediately to use Zoneallarm:

grc.com

It's the best firewall there is if you have to choose between easiness and quallity.
There are other free firewalls, like personal firewall, but they are more difficult to use, or to understand.

Johan



Response Number 3
Name: TimeRider
Date: June 25, 2001 at 05:51:37 Pacific
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Hi James:

Zone Alarm and other personal firewalls are a waste of space. They consume resources and really offer no protection against being hacked. Do you really think that the true hackers out there haven't decompiled that sucker a half a million times? grc.com and other companies ad well, create a lot of hype in order to sell Internet Security software. I would say that if grc, an Internet Security Company, can be the victim of a successful DOS attack by a 13 year old . . . just imagine what a hacker with 15 or 20 years experience could do. Additionally, would you really want to buy or take the advice of a security expert who was hacked so easily? I think the whole story is a buch of C**P dreamed up by this guy to generate business.

Look, the chance of you getting hacked are probably less than the chances of getting struck by lightening or winning the lottery. And even if you did get hacked, so what? What do you stand to lose.

Make regular backups, run good Anit-Virus software . . . and don't worry about it.

Take care and be safe,


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-TimeRider



Response Number 4
Name: Cliff
Date: June 25, 2001 at 06:35:46 Pacific
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DoS attacks aren't really the same as getting hacked as the object is to flood the connection and take up all bandwidth. Zone alarm stops unknown AdWare / SpyWare / Trojan Horses / Zombies dialing home as well as hiding your PC from port scanners etc. which are the main sources of attacks.
But i agree with timerider in that it is fairly unlikely to be attacked. But why take chances ?

Cliff



Response Number 5
Name: ShutMeUpOrDown:)
Date: June 25, 2001 at 07:13:51 Pacific
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Again agree with TR. I wouldnt even run antivirus if it were not for sending email atatchments to others. Its like having a bunch of big gaurds standing at the door searching everyone before they come in. Way to slow IMO.



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Response Number 6
Name: mcpt
Date: June 25, 2001 at 07:57:17 Pacific
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Ultimatly its better than nothing.
It stops the majority of people who are sending data, and it is also a very useful utility to make sure that there are no viruses or spy apps on your system sending data out, something that Zone Alarm must be credited for.

TimeRider is quite right however, there will be the die hards who can walk past these firewalls while they are asleep, and those people are less likly to start putting damaging things onto your PC, as theres no challenge.

Zone Alarm is a tiny app however, and uses hardly any resources at all, its a 4mb or so install size.

Then again with zone alarm running you'd be surprised at how many people are interestind in your system, with ping and tracert requests etc

I have been target a couple of times, and I just have a PC on a home network, nothing buy my stuff.

Why take that risk?



Response Number 7
Name: Local 42
Date: June 25, 2001 at 08:14:27 Pacific
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Zone Alarm is free. It provides some security. It can log traffic on your pc. It uses some system resources. I don't see the problem. It may be true that a skilled Hacker/Cracker, what ever you wanna call "them", can waltz right through; so what? Because someone can pick the locks on my front door in less then 8 seconds I shouldn't bother to lock my doors? I do not like Steve Gibson or grc.com, I do not like Zone Alarm. But I would suggest using a firewall, and Zone Alarm is free. I must admit it is a decent firewall. I guess the long and short is; Can't hurt to run a firewall, and Zone Alarm is free. Go ahead and try it, see if you like it.



Response Number 8
Name: Coolest Guy
Date: June 25, 2001 at 10:08:04 Pacific
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Would you lock the doors on your house if say 4,000 people were coming over? When the internet only sends me one or two packets a day ill think about locking my doors!



Response Number 9
Name: mephistopheles
Date: June 25, 2001 at 12:00:51 Pacific
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my computer got hacked to use it to hack another (some company). i lost my internetconnection because my provider thought i was the one breaking in (the company complained). i didn't knew anything untill i couldn't connect to the internet no more. after i regained my connection i started using zonealarm and was surprised at the number of attacks. there was much harmless stuff (like in this site (i quote): The firewall has blocked Internet access to ad.doubleclick.net (206.65.183.155) (HTTP) from your computer [TCP Flags: S].)
from the time i used it, the number of attacks lessened. now i get pretty less alarms. i never got problems with my system performance because of it, but maybe thats because i'm just a home user. and i don't doubt there are plenty of people with enough knowledge to hack my computer even with zonealarm on it. but even if thats one on two, the chance they hack your computer is reduced by 50%.



Response Number 10
Name: Sue
Date: June 25, 2001 at 14:01:38 Pacific
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I have Zone Alare and the reason I use it, is when I surfed the net before I got Zone Alarm I noticed I got losts of stupid phone calls trying to sell things to me sometimes 4 a day and I got a lot of dirty e mail and since I now use it I dont get that, if I could prevent from getting the above I would not use it because it does use the resources and space, but it seems to be something that saves all the above garbage from happening & Time Rider if you can let me know how to get rid of this stuff without using Zone Alarm I would sure like to know because I would prefer not to use it. Sue



Response Number 11
Name: Local 42
Date: June 25, 2001 at 14:07:26 Pacific
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Coolest Guy,

Yes, I would lock my door if 4000 people were coming over everyday. Ever consider how many of those "packets" are just junk? Most of the crud bouncing back and forth from your computer is just that, crud. A firewall determines what is acceptable traffic and what is not. Many can decide for themselves, as well as give you the option to create custom rules. I'd love it if my front door scanned each person who walked up and based on what it saw it would either open or remain locked and say no one home, If an unknown or unidentifyable person came up they would have to knock. That's, basicly, how a firewall works. If running a firewall or antivirus causes your system to slow noticeably , then maybe it's time to upgrade or check how your computer is configured.



Response Number 12
Name: Johanovitch
Date: June 25, 2001 at 14:32:40 Pacific
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Ok, TR, you do have a point, but still.
I'm connected to the network of the university where I'm studying, and use file-sharing a lot.
I know, this makes me more vulnarable than the average user...
I know several people on the network that have been hacked, by student on the same network. None of these hacked people was using a firewall!
Zonealarm=wast of diskspace? few mb more or less doesn't make a lot of difference on today's harddisks. An mp3 more or less, I don't care.
Cliff, good point. Zonealarm put most ports into stealth mode (if not all, I don't exactly know), so you're hidden for portscanners.
For now, I mainly use zonealarm to keep people out of my shared files and to prevent spyware to connect to the internet if the spyware managed to install without me knowing it.
But this is my situation. If you just have a simple connection to the internet, chances to be hacked are indead for lower than in my case.
I think most of these computers that were hacked on 'my' network, were students that think they are funny by being able to hack an unprotected pc. On that point I must agree with you TR, against experienced hackers, there can't be done much.
But if your data is that valuble, just store it on a computer that isn't connected to the internet. But even then, if they really want it, why not just steeling the computer:)

Johan



Response Number 13
Name: mephistopheles
Date: June 25, 2001 at 15:05:00 Pacific
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i have a university connection also, so if what johanovitch is true, which i don't doubt, i'm probably more vulnerable to hack-attempts than most users, and so my posthacked paranoic behaviour was not necessary. maybe zonealarm isn't really necessary as some of you suggest, but as long as one doesn't notice reduced system performance, why not use it. i'll keep it even when i ever stop studying, get kicked out of here and have to look for a commercial provider.



Response Number 14
Name: Stealthy
Date: June 26, 2001 at 20:44:35 Pacific
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Puts ports into stealth mode? i wonder if this is for real or if grc detects zonealarm and automatically posts "stealth" its a conspiracy i tell ya!



Response Number 15
Name: Peter
Date: June 27, 2001 at 20:10:48 Pacific
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Zone Alarm is great,get it if you want protection.
To those who say that a good hacker/cracker can brake in even if protected by firewall you have to realize that they have to find you first.That's what makes ZA so great,it never responds to ping or tracert therefore make you invisible on the internet.



Response Number 16
Name: Local 42
Date: June 29, 2001 at 21:08:32 Pacific
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Peter, You are absolutely right. If you can't be seen you can't be hacked. Unfortunately using chat programs or internet games does leave you a little vunerable as far as "finding" your computer goes. oh well, I still vote for using a fire wall and since Zone Alarm is free those who don't want to pay should opt for it.



Response Number 17
Name: ted
Date: July 29, 2001 at 13:59:46 Pacific
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Some time ago, the IT manager suggested that I might find it important to install a firewall on my home system. Since I am in the business of designing interesting applications, I looked around a various systems. Sometimes, the least expensive software actually is the best and I purchased a copy of Zone Alarm Pro, just to see if it actually lived up to it's marketing expectations.

It does indeed stop DNS attacks and Ping Floods: we put it through it's paces.

While in Stealth Mode, we were not able to find the target computer through any means.

While there are a pletora of "script kiddies", "hackers" and "crackers" on this planet, any one of these aspiring individuals MUST be able to find the target computer to do any damage.

In conclusion, Zone Labs, Zone Alarm Pro does what it is supposed to, make your computer invisible to the wanton perpetrator.



Response Number 18
Name: fenris
Date: August 1, 2001 at 06:11:08 Pacific
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I too was in the postion of needing to secure my computer on the university network. So I decided to use zone alarm. It seemded to do it's job. But what really sold me was when I was doing a power point presentation and zone alarm popped-up asking me if I wanted to allow power point to connect to the internet!!! Now that is what mainly use it for is to block that damn spy ware.

regards



Response Number 19
Name: Trish
Date: August 15, 2001 at 04:25:13 Pacific
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I tried Zone Alarm and decided to go with another program. I deleted the Aone Alarm file and now I can't access the internet, ICQ, AIM, or anything. Any suggestions????

Thanks



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