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WinME freezes on start up and more

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Name: Porty
Date: May 24, 2005 at 15:40:11 Pacific
OS: WinME
CPU/Ram: 200MHz
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Hi,

I am trying to help a friend with this problem and not having any luck so far. The problem is this:
When she powers on her computer, it seems to start normally, then the screens wobbles and the Windows ME start up screen appears and it just hangs. I tried Ctrl-Alt-Delete and it did nothing. I hit Escape a couple of times and got a black screen with a table on it with info about the computer. I hit Escape again and got a screen that looked like bubbles at a VERY low resolution. Tried restarting in safe mode and got to a screen from a dermatology company asking for a password. My friend bought this computer used from them and said that when the computer worked it would normally get to that screen. She would hit enter and go to the desktop. When she tried hitting enter now it does nothing. The mouse is also frozen. I am not sure what to do now. I don't know if she has the boot disk either. Her father suggested replacing the battery but (from what I have read online) it doesn't seem like the battery. Any ideas would be much appreciated!

Thanks.



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Response Number 1
Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: May 25, 2005 at 05:58:16 Pacific
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When you frist startup ,on the black screen witth all of the H.W info it should have the key you press to either enter the BIOS or go into safe mode at the bootom left hand corner of the screen ,you can try F2 ,usally the one ,if it takes to safe mode option ,press the # to chose safe mode and the PC should boot up with miminal drivers in VGA , then go to MSCONFIG>start/run/msconfig and click on the startup tab ,see whats loading at start up deslect any strange unknown apps make sure you leave the needed O/S apps running .If you have another PC running WindowsMe ,look at the MSCONFIG startup tab on that one ! Also while in safe mode ,go over to device manager and see if any driver problems on the H.W. usally a yeellow exclamation mark or red X ,indicated some kind of driver or H.W. failure taking place on the item its pointing to !
Good Luck Nick


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Response Number 2
Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: May 25, 2005 at 06:01:38 Pacific
Reply:

Windows wont start!!!!???
Ok you will need a windows m.e boot disk.
if you dont have one you can get one from www.bootdisk.com
you will need to reboot into dos by putting the windows m.e boot disk into drive and
rebooting
Next choose with out cd-rom suport click enter.
there will a flashing curor and it will look like a>:_
you will be asked to do these dos fixes at the a: or a: prompt.

the easy things first
at the a: type sys c: click enter (a:sys c:)
if secessfull it will say system tranferd than reboot computer.
if this did not work at the a:fdisk /mbr click enter and reboot.
note space bettween fdisk and /mbr
next you can try deleteing temp files from prompt
a:del c:\windows\temp*.* click enter
next try deleteing the swap file
a:del c:\win386.swap
and a veary important over looked solution is
a:scanreg /restore click enter
you have 5 registry restore points set by default,and each new day you try to restart
computer you loose one older restore point.
anther thing you can do from dos is look at your bootlog.txt
a: c:\windows\bootlog.txt click enter
if it dont go than a: c:\bootlog.txt
You can look at the last thing listed in log and most likely its the item that caused
windows not to load.
If the file is in windows you can rename it to old from what ever its was befor ie;exe
txt dll ect.
an example of renameing would be to rename windoz.dll to windoz.old you would use
a:ren c:windows\windoz.dll c:\windows\windoz.old
then click enter note space
you can use rename in place of ren

You can allso do a system restore from dos with boot disk allso

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];Q279736
How to Start the System Restore Tool From a Command Prompt
The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
Summary
Windows Millennium Edition (Me) includes the System Restore tool, however, you cannot start
the System Restore tool from a command prompt. Because of this, it may be useful to start
the System Restore tool when you are unable to start your Windows Me-based computer
normally or in Safe mode. This article describes how to start the System Restore tool when
you are unable to start your Windows Me-based computer normally or in Safe mode.
More Information
To start the System Restore tool when you are unable to start your Windows Me-based
computer normally or in Safe mode, you can temporarily change the Windows shell from
Explorer.exe to Progman.exe:
Start your computer by using the Windows Me Startup disk.
At the Startup menu, choose Minimum Boot.
At the command prompt, type edit c:\windows\system.ini, and then press ENTER.
Edit the shell= line so that it looks like this:
shell=progman.exe
Press ALT+F, and then press S to save the changes to the System.ini file.
Press ALT+F, and then press X.
Remove your Windows Me Startup disk, and then restart your computer. When your computer
restarts, Program Manager should start. If Program Manager does not start, repeat steps
1-7, being careful to follow these steps exactly, and then continue to the next step.
On the File menu, click Run, type msconfig in the Command Line box, and then press ENTER.
Click Launch System Restore to begin restoring your computer to a previous, functional
state.
NOTE: After you configure your computer to start Program Manager, you can start the System
Restore tool by typing c:\windows\system\restore\rstrui.exe at a command prompt, and then
pressing ENTER.
For additional information about the System Restore tool, click the article number below to
view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
Q267951 Description of the System Restore Utility in Windows Me
First Published: Nov 15 2000 12:18PM
Keywords: kbtool kbWinME kbProd2Web kbhowto dos mode

And now for a restore of windows functions by newgrl
this is a last ditch way to open windoz if all else has faild than you have nothing to
lose.
Name: newgrl
Date: December 24, 2001 at 22:19:09 Pacific
Subject: replacing system.ini
Reply:
On the root of the C: drive (... where I am assuming Windows ME is installed) there should
be a hidden file named system.cb
This is a "backup" system.ini that contains no third party drivers.
Copy it to c:\windows and rename it to system.ini... then see if you can boot up.
If you can, you will have to install a bunch of drivers. Including video, sound, scanners,
cameras, etc... but you should be able to boot.
and heres how to make it work from boot disk
you will need to reboot with m.e bootdisk in drive if you dont have one you can d/l one
from www.bootdisk.com
chose to boot withwith out cd-rom suport at the a: you will type (will look like this)
a:c: click enter
next c: dir /p to move to next pages in dir click enter
click enter
c:copy system.cb windows system.ini
click enter
if it says there is allraedy a file by that name and it will be over writen click yes or ok
allso
you can runscandisk from dos to check for errors and if many are found this may be why
windows dose not start and a new hard drive might be needed.
Allso when m.e is instald, copys of your registry files are made and remain unmodified
until the next time windows is instald.
the back up,system.1st ,is loacated in your root directory. if all else fails,you can
at least to some extent,restore your system to its instald state by copying these files
over those in use.
although it wont have any of your most recent settings,it should start windows.
and for the restore from hell you can reinstall windows over its self.
i did this the other day with no errors or problems,but its not allways so
heres the dos comand for it i,ll give both because some computers the the cab files are in
a diferant place
a: c:\windows\options\cabs\setup click enter
next a: c:\windows\cabs\setup click enter
there are more ways to start stuck windows if you know them please post them here allso
thank you in advance
Have a nice day

Reply:
The only solution to this problem is to reinstall Windows unless he has a cloned backup available which can be restored. vmm32.vxd is a compiled driver created at installation and specific to the hardware on a particular system. It can not be obtained elsewhere, extracted or copied from another system. Advice on formatting and reinstalling is available here:
Microsoft have an article on the Windows CDs and also on their website. On the ME CD you'll find the article in \addons\document\guide and it's called mqsg. The information you want starts about page 31. On a PC with ME already installed you will also find a similar article at C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\INSTALL\CLEANHD.TXT
On the website, go to
http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/topics/winme/setup/setupht.asp
which also has a great deal of other useful information on dual booting, setup and uninstalling, and
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q255/8/67.asp
http://www.windowsreinstall.com/ http://www.burzurq.com/forum/format_reinstall_.html are also useful
Be very careful you have all your drivers and original disks for all your components and peripherals, or download latest versions before you start.
When you have reinstalled, visit the homepage link on this response to tune up your installation and make problems less likely

When you attempt to start your computer, you may receive the following error message:
Error loading Explorer.exe.
You must reinstall Windows
When you click OK, you may receive the following error message:
A required .DLL file, C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSVCRT.DLL, was not found.
You may then be unable to start Windows.

To resolve this issue, replace the Msvcrt.dll file with a new copy from the Windows CD. To do this, use the appropriate steps.
Windows Millennium Edition:

Restart the computer using a Windows Millennium (Me) Startup disk.
At the Windows Me Startup menu, type 2, and then press ENTER.
Record the drive letter that is assigned to the CD or DVD-ROM drive.
Type ext, and then press ENTER to start the Microsoft Extract Command Line Helper starts.
At the Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files (a:): prompt, type drive:\win9x (where drive is the drive letter that you recorded in step 3), and then press ENTER.
Note: Depending on your installation of Windows, the Windows .cab files may also be stored in the \Windows\Options\Install folder.
At the Please enter the name(s) of the file(s) you want to extract: prompt, type msvcrt.dll, and then press ENTER.
At the Please enter the path to extract to ('Enter' for current directory): prompt, type c:\windows\system, and then press ENTER.
At the Is this okay? (y/n) prompt, type y, and then press ENTER to extract the file to the specified directory.
Remove the Windows Me Startup disk, and then restart the computer

You mean you tried;
scanreg /restore
at the prompt, and got what you said.
Ok, let's have some fun. Well, might be, just depends if you make it fun. Not a you *&^% computer this, *&=) computer that.
Try this, ok. Start your computer with the "ME boot disk". Type the following commands, pressing Enter after each.
c:
cd _restore\archive
dir /p
Now, on your screen you should have CABs that start with RG. If not, press/tap the space bar once. Now look for them. You'll get a new screen full/page, each time you press the space bar.
Write the exact name of one of the RG CABs down
If my frist reply did not get you anywhere ,perhaps one of thesuggestions above will ,they are a bunch of other ways to get windows started ! again good luck !
Nick


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