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Size on disk? vs Size?

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Name: Dan
Date: October 20, 2001 at 14:21:31 Pacific
Comment:

what is the difference between size and size on disk(when you right click on something and go to properties)...and why is size on disk always bigger??



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Response Number 1
Name: mick
Date: October 20, 2001 at 14:42:56 Pacific
Reply:

?? your not very clear in your Q, but if this is what i think you mean.

if you have a HD that is 20GB according to a manufacturer, once formatted it may only give 18.5GB of storage space. this is dependant on being formatted as FAT/FAT32/NTFS/ or LINUX format's they all have different ways of clustering data.

if you mean size on disk used and size of all files seen, note you may not be counting hidden files such as OS stsyem files.

mick


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Response Number 2
Name: Al
Date: October 20, 2001 at 14:43:41 Pacific
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You are confusing MB, and mb. A mb is not 1000000 bytes, but 1048676 (1024x1024) bytes. Manufactures rate drives in MB simply because this gives a larger number and is more impressive. Every million bytes is a MB, but it takes 1048676 bytes to make a mb which is how your computer displays size.
Al


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Response Number 3
Name: Ellis
Date: October 20, 2001 at 15:41:26 Pacific
Reply:

Actually a million bytes (8 bits per byte) is truly 1,000,000 bytes on disk - those same bytes in memory are the number you refer to. IBM, Microsoft and others refer to a megabyte as 1024 bytes for consistency.

So the OEM refers to the size correctly, and we have to compensate for it when looking at the values reported by the O/S.


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Response Number 4
Name: Renaissance Man
Date: October 20, 2001 at 17:23:01 Pacific
Reply:

I think Dan is referring to the actual size of a file, and the minimum size that same file takes up on your hard drive. E.g., if you have a 187 bite file, on a 20GB FAT 32 hard drive, it will take up 16mb of space, since all files take up a minimum (and a multiple of) 16 mb.


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Response Number 5
Name: ShutMeUpOrDown:)
Date: October 20, 2001 at 20:56:52 Pacific
Reply:

Size on disk=file could be fragmented or grabbing up extra space on the disk for future writing if they differ. File size=what the file would be if you closed it. I think thats what it means.:)


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Response Number 6
Name: Slamma
Date: October 20, 2001 at 21:10:27 Pacific
Reply:

Formula for PC
(file size + allocation unit -1) / allocation unit
now take the integer part of your answer and multiply by the allocation unit.
This gives you the "size on disk"



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Response Number 7
Name: Ellis
Date: October 20, 2001 at 21:36:15 Pacific
Reply:

I'll buy that - I was referring to the comment on a Meg being based on a 1024 byte unit. Maybe I just misread it... And by the way, that's 16kb not 16mb - whew, that’s one hell of a cluster size you have there (but, then I knew what you meant).

Also the cluster size isn't counted as part of the file.

But it nice to see I stirred up some responces - It's been so slow here lately.


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