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Subject: 'remember your login'

Original Message
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 2, 2008 at 02:25:44 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
OS: WinMe
CPU/Ram: PIII/256Mb
Model/Manufacturer: generic
Comment:
Although I have the 'remember your login' option ticked, I'm still required to put in my login details on this private PC each time I post to ComputingNet. Can that be remedied ?

Basty


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Response Number 1
Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 2, 2008 at 06:01:59 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Hello,

Are you running any firewall type software that might be interfering with cookies?

Justin


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Response Number 2
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 3, 2008 at 01:05:38 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
I've got the obsolete Sygate still running (because it gives a traffic log, which allows me a vague glimpse into 'who/what' is using my internet connection.)

Basty


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Response Number 3
Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 3, 2008 at 06:11:08 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Hey,

Try disabling it and then logging in, see if that makes a difference.

Justin


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Response Number 4
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 4, 2008 at 08:11:27 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Justin - Obviously I can do that - what if I find that my login details are then remembered ? Surely it is not an option to leave a firewall disabled ?

After I wrote that I realised that the firewall is not up-to-date anyway, so I DID disable it in order to be able to write this answer. It made NO improvement.

Basty


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Response Number 5
Name: Viking
Date: January 4, 2008 at 08:19:46 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
I would try clearing your browser cache/TIF/Temp files out - have a clean up using CCleaner ...if you haven't already used it.

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Response Number 6
Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 4, 2008 at 11:59:44 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Hmmm,

What browser are you using?

Justin


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Response Number 7
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 4, 2008 at 21:30:48 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Viking
I KNOW of CCleaner, but have not used it. You suprise me with the \TIF\ part of the 'path'. I routinely clean the temp folders with a batchfile whenever I boot up :
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\deltree /y C:\Windows\tempor~1\*.*
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\deltree /y C:\windows\temp\*.*
C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\deltree /y C:\Windows\cookies\*.*


Justin
My browser is I.E.6 I am SURE that 'it' has remembered my login details (at times) for other sites.

Basty


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Response Number 8
Name: Viking
Date: January 5, 2008 at 02:21:50 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
It wasn't a path. It was a generic list applying to IE and Firefox. You are also running through a basic check list making sure it's nothing obvious. And now we've established you're using an outdated and insecure browser :) .....have you tried repairing IE?

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Response Number 9
Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 5, 2008 at 06:32:02 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Hey,

I would try going into the cookies folder (tools/internet options/temporary internet files/view files), find the cookies file for computing.net and delete all of them. Then close your browser and relogin.

Justin


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Response Number 10
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 6, 2008 at 02:07:29 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Viking
I have used repair I.E. previously, for another issue - with no usefull result.

"It wasn't a path" - I NOW realise that 3 'locations' were meant.

Justin
I thought the code I posted shows that cookie deletion is routinely done wherever I boot up.

Basty


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Response Number 11
Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 6, 2008 at 06:48:32 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Hey,

I'm not positive if that's where IE stores its cookies. I assume that you realize if you delete cookies you will be logged out? So the problem must be between boot ups? I'd still try what I said. It can't hurt.

Justin


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Response Number 12
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 7, 2008 at 01:21:15 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Response #9 - Justin, although you clearly wrote it, I had not realised you were being specific about cookies for ComputingNET.

I have found in Internet Explorer's HELP the following statement "Some Web sites store your member name and password or other personally identifiable information about you in a cookie; therefore, if you delete all cookies, you might need to re-enter this information the next time you visit the site." which suggests the opposite -KEEP COOKIES if you want personal details
remembered. [I now see you suggested REFRESHING them for Computing.NET]

While on the topic of I.E. Help - it has an entry as follows : "deleting cookies automatically", but the advice that follows is only about PREVENTION, not AUTOMATIC DELETION. If you know what HELP does not tell, I'd like to hear it.

In due course I will do another IE repair and see if it improves things.

In the meantime, I have found that there were numerous cookies still, so my AUTOMATIC clearing is not moving THEM.

Clearing out ALL cookies - including those for Computing.NET - did NOT cause my login details to be remembered.

Basty


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Response Number 13
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 7, 2008 at 02:39:30 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Looks like clearing out the cookies did the trick, because, since I've rebooted and returned to this site, I have not had to login again !

Basty


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Response Number 14
Name: Viking
Date: January 7, 2008 at 03:09:26 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
You is making life difficult and confusing.

1) If you want a clean up batch file for ME look at Delindex and either use it, or rip the command lines out of it and doctor it. It was written by another computing.net member years ago specifically for ME and was primarily designed to clean out the index.dat file.

2) Cookies are stored in both TIF and Cookies

C:\Windows\Temporary Internet Files
C:\Windows\Cookies

3) Clearing out all cookies from Cookies and TIF is a good idea from time to time. Use either Delindex (ME) or CCleaner (Win All) - or hack Delindex and do your own.

4) If you want to store some of your cookies (and therefore details) use something like a Cookie Jar program.

5) Better still. Use an up to date and secure browser like Firefox. You can do what you like with individual cookies (within reason - or add an extension and get more functionality), including saving them for certain websites that need to keep login details.

6) Second purpose of using Firefox would be to determine whether the problem persists using a different browser.

7) "While on the topic of I.E. Help - it has an entry as follows : "deleting cookies automatically", but the advice that follows is only about PREVENTION, not AUTOMATIC DELETION. If you know what HELP does not tell, I'd like to hear it."

Now read the whole thing in context and stop selectively reading meaning into things that don't exist :)

8) Make sure you do 6 and 5. 8-)


Edit: I'd written it, so yer havin' it :p


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Response Number 15
Name: Sebastian42
Date: January 7, 2008 at 05:49:48 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Apologise for confusing you - the problem was a 'work-in-progress' and things changed in time.

I'm sure there's useful stuff for me in what you've written inspite of the fact that 'my problem is already solved'.

As for Firefox - I did experiment with it and found no obvious advantage over I.E. in it.


Basty


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Response Number 16
Name: Justin Weber
Date: January 7, 2008 at 06:08:46 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
Hey,

I'm glad it worked for you!

Justin


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Response Number 17
Name: Viking
Date: January 7, 2008 at 06:15:16 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
So I'll spell it out for you.

Firefox is secure and regularly updated. IE6 is neither. You shouldn't really need another reason after that.

Firefox has native cookie management to do exactly what you want. Amongst a whole host of other useful things. IE6 isn't even supported or recommended by Microsoft anymore.


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Response Number 18
Name: Sebastian42
Date: April 18, 2008 at 04:33:17 Pacific
Subject: 'remember your login'
Reply: (edit)
I am now using CookieJar and in it, I have 'allowed' the Computing NET cookies;
and mostly, I am not required to log into ComputingNET (like today). But sometimes I am asked to log in. Is there a way to remedy this inconsistency/intermittency ?

Basty


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