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Name: amito
Date: July 5, 2005 at 10:38:05 Pacific
OS: Windows ME
CPU/Ram: Athlon
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Hello.

Okay, I have a little problem right now and I can't figure out what to do.

I have Windows ME, and well, lets just say I'm less than satisfied with it. I tried installing Windows XP, made a stupid mistake, and messed everything up. Basically, what I believed happened was it was in the process of removing WinME (or had already removed it) and was about to install WinXP, but had nothing to read off of since the WinXP CD was not in the drive. Instead of continuing installation, the computer boots up with the Compaq screen, as usual, then just sits at a black screen with the blinking cursor forever.

Right now I'm going to forget about XP and just worry about reformatting and getting ME back before I try anything else again. I have the Quick Restore CDs that came with the system, but they don't work. Two of them don't load, and the third loads and says to contact Compaq Technical Support. Once, I was able to reformat, and thought I did so. But when it was done it just loaded a Windows text box that had me rather puzzled. I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was something along the lines of "Drive is not partitioned" and then gave me the choices of "yes", "no", and "no to all". Seeing as how that's not exactly a question, I had no idea what to press, and I think I ended up clicking no.

I do have a Windows ME boot disk that I'm not exactly sure what to do with. I can run it okay, and I ran a few things that didn't work. I did a "scandisk /all" which found nothing wrong with any of my drives. I also tried a "scanreg /all" which I'm not exactly familiar with, but that brought up one file that I restored.. Not sure what it did, but it still doesn't boot up or anything. I don't think I have the original Windows ME CDs.

The only thing I can do is get into DOS mode. I'm not too familiar with that either, but I can run anything off the ME boot disk, so I'm hoping there's something on there that can help me.

So I turn to you guys. Please ask questions if I wasn't clear.. I have decent computer knowledge but when it comes to this stuff I'm pretty lost, so I'm not sure if I explained everything correctly.

Thanks,
Kyle



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Response Number 1
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: July 5, 2005 at 11:29:24 Pacific
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The bootdisk you mention did you have that on hand or did you go to Bootdisk.com and download and create one from them?
I didn’t see where in your post you mentioned if you have run fdisk yet to initialize the harddrive, that maybe what you are up against right now, breath a sigh of relief in that you came to the right place for help, if you could please post back the machine details and what all you have done up to this point and incase your not aware a lot of store bought machines came with a restore cd however that only helps to get to a semi hidden partition on the hard drive where the real location of the OS install files were placed at the factory. The recover CD was where all the added goodies were stored for a reinstall.
Maybe rethink getting XP on there as someone will probably come along and say thats what they would do however if you do want to get ME back on there we all can walk you through it.


Keep the old stuff running


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Response Number 2
Name: amito
Date: July 5, 2005 at 12:28:20 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the quick reply :).

First off, yes, I did download the bootdisk from bootdisk.com.

I have run fdisk but I haven't done anything major. It sounds like something that'll help, but I'm not sure what to do.

First off, when I start it it gives me a long explanation of large disks. It tells me I have a disk larger than 512 MB, and if I enable large disk support it will only work with that OS, or something like that. I just chose no because I thought I could screw something up if I clicked yes. If I should have clicked yes please tell me, but keep in mind after this I'll be switching to WinXP and from how it sounds, I won't be able to use the drive with WinXP (but I'm probably wrong, if someone could clarify that'd be great).

I get 5 options when I run fdisk.. which one should I use?

1. Create DOS partition or Logical DOS Drive
2. Set Active Partition
3. Delete partition or Logical DOS Drive
4. Display partition information
5. Change current fixed drive

As I browse some of these options, it comes to my attention that only one of my drives is partitioned, which is C:. C: is the drive that came with the PC, but I also have a D:, which is a 200 GB hard drive I got a couple months ago. I know I've never done this before so I'm not sure if I've partitioned it or if I need to or whatever.

Regarding PC information, I'm not sure what you need but it's a Compaq Presario 7000 (couple years old), and an AMD Athlon processor.. I'd have to check on everything else.

I think I'd rather make the switch back to Windows ME before I re-install Windows XP, but if someone knows of an easier way to do XP I'll just make the switch to that.. I just thought it'd be a little easier to go back to ME because at least I know that works (by WinME standards, that is :p).

Thanks.


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Response Number 3
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: July 5, 2005 at 17:55:24 Pacific
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Proceed with caution from here out if you still have the mindset to fall back to ME for your system you will answer fdisk with #1 and then before exiting select #2 to make that partition active (you need that for it to boot from current harddrive) one note of caution you might want to remove the second harddrive you mention so anything on that will not be lost, you can easily hook it back up after the system is back up and stable. I have a link hear that will allow you to see what is needed to get ME back on your system and it maybe easier for you to find answers for yourself during the reinstall, take a peek at this site:

http://www.windowsreinstall.com/indexwinme.htm

I did a quick check on what your system came with out of the box and looks as though XP would fit on that box quite well, unless you have a real need for ME leave it behind and get something newer running on that platform you've got.
You were not to clear if what you were trying was an upgrade to XP or a fresh install if the ladder set your bios to boot from cd and go with XP. Post back what you come with so as to be able to help us help you, or the next person with a problem like yours. :)


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Response Number 4
Name: amito
Date: July 5, 2005 at 18:20:46 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the link, I'm looking into it right now and I'll let you know if I have any questions.

I was doing a fresh install to XP, and I've already set the BIOS to what it needs to be, but the CD won't work.. It just sits at that black screen with the cursor after the Compaq logo. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to anything different, because as far as I know I can't run the install from DOS, and I have no OS so I can't get that screen to come up.. It's puzzling, which is why I chose to do it this way in the first place.

Alright, so I'm going to check out that link and try their solution and post my results.


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Response Number 5
Name: amito
Date: July 5, 2005 at 19:11:13 Pacific
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Okay, I tried it out and I'm a bit stumped.

I was able to navigate that link to the ways to reinstall WinME, and I chose the method that just said format and reinstall. I went into DOS and did a "format c:\", which successfully formatted that drive. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what to do next. The QuickRestore CDs still tell me to contact Compaq Support, and I no longer have the original CDs. I do have the boot disk though. Anyone know what I'm supposed to do next?


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Response Number 6
Name: LinuxOS2
Date: July 6, 2005 at 08:33:02 Pacific
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What it sounds like is that your disks do not have the orginal files on them , see if on one of them there is a folder called i386 inside of it are thr cab files you would need, if you find it you should at this point be able to run setup and be back up and running if not maybe give up on ME and just go with XP....

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Response Number 7
Name: Mad Mike
Date: July 16, 2005 at 21:51:15 Pacific
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Kyle: I'm going to try and help you because I'm currently retired (30 years at AT&T), I had a good life (thanks to God), and this is my way of paying him(God)back.

From what I've read so far, you have a copy of Win XP (which is good because "XP" is superior to "ME"). Keep it in mind that you MUST register "XP" when you load it, otherwise it will quit after 30 days. Therefore, if you borrowed this copy (of XP) from a friend, you might have trouble down the road. SO - if you don't have a valid copy of XP, I would recommend loading Win 98 2nd Edition, before I'd load "ME" on a machine. Win 98 2nd Ed. is MUCH more stable then ME. My first choice would be to load "Win XP Pro." It's a very stable OS and you DON'T need to register it. If you have the money, buy it. Okay - whatever OS you put on your machine will need to be patched. This may sound scary, but it's easy. Microsoft gives free fixes (patches) at its web-site. These patches will fix the problems that allow hackers and other evil doers from getting into your machine. Do the patches last ( if you don't understand, e-mail me and I'll help you). Since your using Win ME, this suggests that you have an older machine, which is fine, but you probably have more junk on your hard drive then you think. Most people don't know that formatting your hard DOES NOT ERASE YOUR FILES. It just wipes out the directory (FAT file), and leaves all your physical files alone. Someone with a special program can still access your files unless you really erase them. There are some shareware programs on the Internet that you can do this with. As long as your going to format your drive anyway, I would suggest erasing your drive first. (By the way - never give or throw away a machine before erasing the HD. You may have tons of personnel info on it that you don't want loose.) If you have a second hard drive on your machine, follow the advise of an earlier post and UNPLUG it. All you need to do is unplug the power (four pin plug) from the back of the drive. Leave the ribbon cable alone. Any Microsoft OS is capable of (and probably will) format the wrong drive. Only leave connected the one you want to work with. Now here's another thing - the Compaq machines I've worked with in the past, have their TOOLS loaded on the HD (hard drive). If you format the drive without loading these tools on the drive, you will lose the tools. Compaq should have given you a special disc for loading all of this junk plus the OS (which in your case is Win ME)back on your machine. If you want to load Win XP on your machine, you will need to go to the Compaq web-site and download them. I don't remember exactly, but I think you can run these tools off a floppy, if you need them, and they don't need to be on your machine. However, it's possible that some of these tools are sound drivers, and such, that you need to have. Don't let me scare you - this stuff is easy, but time consuming.
Also, your learning something. If your afraid to try this, take the machine to "Best Buy" (or someplace) and have a tech do it for you. Of course, you pay for it with NO education. Anyway, with your HD properly prepared, it will look like a brand new HD to the Microsoft disc. You will need to make a "start up" disk, if you don't have one already. Boot up your machine with this disc. It will then load the drivers necessary to operate your CD player. Then, put the Microsoft CD in the player and let it run. Follow the instructions and you should be fine. Hope this helped you.


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