Trev.. thanks for the info re systray.. but would sure like to know what it is for as the two reference sites say conflicting things...?

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The Microsoft literature says that P C Health is necessary for system restore to automatically set restore points.

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It's my understanding that PC Health, Statemgr, and TaskMonitor are all necessary for system restore to operate correctly and automatically set restore points. There is some info about systray and other startup programs at this site http://www.pcforrest.freeserve.co.uk/streamlining_startups.htm It's toward the bottom of the page.

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Putasolutions has provided the best address yet and here it is again... go there and all will be revealed. http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.htm (PS to ger: I am still having the same problem, think I'll just make my own restores now)

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To Ewen: while searching for info I ran across a tip that I thought I would try. First I disabled System Restore altogether and rebooted the computer. Then I went back and re-enabled it and rebooted again (making sure that PC Health, Statemgr, and TaskMonitor were all running in startup). Since then, it has set 4 system checkpoints at appropriate intervals, and an additional restore point in response to a program install. It seems to be working like it's supposed to now.

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Ger, If you see this will you post the link to the MS literature you refer to - I haven't seen it. I have had system restore working perfectly with it setting automatic restore points daily without PChealth running, for about the last 6 months. I have used the system restore points on occasion successfully.

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I just reviewed the article. It doesn't actually say if PC Health has to be included at startup. It runs far in the background so you have no real way of telling what it's doing. I experimented with taking it out of the startup group once, but it didn't have much effect on my available system resources, so I put it back into startup just to be safe. http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q267/9/52.ASP

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Thanks ger for the info. I tried your tip and I am afraid that all I get is the opening Restore point and that's it. From there on in it's just blank. PCHealth is just a scheduler and it doesn't have to be included in the msconfig. *Statemgr is critical abd should be left in. To answer the posters query I have SysTray disabled. If you don't use any of the icons in the start bar (volume control, power-management, pc-card) then you don't need SysTray. Certainly speeds startup and gives system resources back too.

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While searching for info about it, I've seen that a lot of people have had the same problem, but no definite solution. Many times they don't know until they need to restore and find that there are no restore points available. I guess the best we can do is check once a day and make sure to set a manual restore point if needed. If I ever find any good solutions I'll let you know.

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Ger Thanks for the link. The point about PCHealth is that because it is a scheduler it interferes with scandisk and defrag, either Windows or Norton etc., sometimes. It is often responsible for the message that defrag or whatever has shut down because of 10 or more restarts.

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Thanks Ger... I have included my e-mail address this time just in case you do find something. I thought that perhaps I had set the cache too low (absolute minimum 200meg) and that because my system was steadily growing this might be causing a problem. Jimi_1 once mentioned that he let his Restore run flat out and he had no trouble. needless to say the exercise was a failure. Woe is me! Regards.

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