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Name: rogborgs
Date: September 16, 2004 at 08:43:31 Pacific
OS: windows Me
CPU/Ram: 128 Ram
Comment:

Not a prob actually, just that I saw this tv program a week ago tackling bout computer problems, this tech show host gives advice to letter senders, he advised this one sender who lost his win me serial number, The host gave him some good advice but what really caught my attention was, he told the letter sender should switch to other windows versions other than ME saying WIN ME is the MOST BUGGED of all windows versions anyway,
Ever since it was first launched, I’ve been a satisfied user of windows ME, been considering switching to xp though coz some software I need requires XP. Since this is a Windows Me forum, could you ME aficionados and anti’s alike, have sumthing to say bout this?



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Response Number 1
Name: Viking
Date: September 16, 2004 at 09:19:07 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah.

Some people talk ignorant s--- and spout crap because they're on TV and have a slot to fill.

ME has it's share of problems, and it's not the best Windows OS, but so do most Windows operating systems. You want to get ME working well ?

Look at something like:

How to run Windows ME well, version 5

As for XP, it's an exceptionally valid point about software and inevitably we will ALL be moving to newer versions of Windows, as product support for 9x dies out.

If your in the market for a new operating system, then get XP pro -- I'd even hold back on that, until they bring out a re packaged version, something along the lines of XP "Reloaded" incorporating service pack 2 and any extra features they decide to ship it with.

Ignore people who spout crap for the sake of spouting crap. If ME has served you well so far, then it's served you well !

Period.


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Response Number 2
Name: Jizumonkey
Date: September 16, 2004 at 10:40:27 Pacific
Reply:

WinME has served me so well that I've now gone back to it after using XP Pro for over a year!

I was having major problems with games running and staying stable on my Athlon system. I blamed the drivers, the power supply, the motherboard, the BIOS, the graphics card, the cooling...everything but nothing solved my crashes. I loved XP...it has a feel about it that despite the extra resources it hogs up, that even if your system would normally hang and force a manual reset, it will somehow manage to save the day! lol Previous versions of windows simply dont have the same attention to detail as of course, they're earlier versions.

However, since switching back 2 weeks ago, I have played Joint Operations every day without a glitch. My system now boots twice as fast and absolutely everything runs fine. I use Zonealarm which is a must I think as WinME is not security conscious in the slightest but with that, I'm not sure what is ever going to make me go back to WinXP...I mean, apart from the un-coolness of saying in a forum for example, that you use WinME (whereas of course WinXP is cool haha) what's the point? The only thing I miss is a slideshow program to view pictures...but you can easily install a third party one for that.

All in all, I'd say yes, XP is a nicer system to use but since I play a few games, and I personally had trouble with XP and none whatsoever with ME...where's the contest?!! If it aint broke, don't fix it mate, you're not missing out on THAT much.


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Response Number 3
Name: Wombat
Date: September 16, 2004 at 13:04:58 Pacific
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Microsoft have never provided any Service Packs (sp1 / sp2) for Windows ME, except for security updates.

So it must be "the very best" of Microsoft's operating systems.

Iligitimi non carborundum est


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Response Number 4
Name: JackG
Date: September 16, 2004 at 13:50:32 Pacific
Reply:

Windows ME is all that I run on my systems and the only OS I consider fixing for other people. XP Pro is nice if you have a fast system with lots of RAM and don't run older programs or have any need to run DOS programs. But with XP you have to stay on top of all the fixes they keep having to release for it.

With a little work cleaning out some of the unneeded junk Microsoft added to make it sell better to businesses, and installing updated device drivers, Windows ME can be very stable and serve you well. Now days you do need to add a good anti-virus and firewall programs and check for Spyware/ADware often, but you have to do that with all of the Windows OS's.

The most important thing you have to do to keep your Windows OS safe, is to dump Outlook (remove it from the system) and use a different e-mail application that does not have all of the features and security problems. Then install of the Windows Updates.

The link in response 1 has a lot of good information on making Windows ME run faster, as does my page.

Windows ME got a lot of bad reviews when it first came out because of a few simple to fix problems and the lack of proper device drivers for most hardware. These "bad reviews" have just been repeated, and have never been updated and corrected and have caused many people to never bother to really look at Windows ME and do the simple updates and changes to make it run well.


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Response Number 5
Name: Viking
Date: September 16, 2004 at 14:25:01 Pacific
Reply:

(sorry JackG I forgot your page, I already have it on my html template - I've just stuck it next to Trevs now - both your links together, makes more sense.)


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Response Number 6
Name: zorki1c
Date: September 16, 2004 at 14:34:31 Pacific
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ME might be OK for single users but it's an evil b-----d on a network. Win 98se networks better than ME. We had one ME machine on a 30 computer net and it caused more problems that all the other computers combined. We replaced the ME OS with Win2K and that machine has run for a year now with nary a burp. There a reason Microsoft never did a service pack.


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Response Number 7
Name: Wombat
Date: September 16, 2004 at 14:55:21 Pacific
Reply:

My post was sarcasm zorki1c...

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Response Number 8
Name: Becky0819
Date: September 16, 2004 at 17:06:24 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah...ME sucks, trust me, I'm an ME user.


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Response Number 9
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: September 17, 2004 at 00:33:20 Pacific
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The 3 or 4 folks here are the only ones I know of who have had any joy wuth ME.

My experience tells me it's pure doggy doo.

If you're considering software that "requires" XP, you're contributing to the feeding frenzy.

What works best for most people is 98se or w2k.

2k is rock solid. Been using a "final-beta" {?!] for years. Only BSOD came from USB plug/unplug.



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Response Number 10
Name: Jizumonkey
Date: September 17, 2004 at 05:17:19 Pacific
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I agree with the comment about WinME on a network. I LAN quite often and at the time was using XP whereas three of my mates were on WinME upgraded to XP...despite my protests about doing this!! It caused nothing but problems - kicking out of games, sharing wouldnt work.

He clean installed XP one day and so did the others and there was never a problem to be seen from that day on. However, LAN's are probably not what you will be using.

If you're after a quick yet friendly enough OS then WinME really does the trick for me. Win98 for example is stupid, literally I mean unintelligent!! It needs spoon feeding everything and takes a lot of patience. Win2k I feel is along the same lines as XP in its resource hogging. It takes about the same time to load on my machine and is far from stable, crashing games and blue screen of deathing regularly with memory dumps.

But at the end of the day you gotta go with the majority :)


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Response Number 11
Name: Viking
Date: September 17, 2004 at 06:24:30 Pacific
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"The 3 or 4 folks here are the only ones I know of who have had any joy wuth ME."

Then you haven't had a great deal of real world experience of computers with or without ME, in either buisness or domestic environments. Anyone who had, wouldn't make such a crass statement.


"My experience tells me it's pure doggy doo."

What, on the hundreds of machines you've installed ME on ? ....Again, anyone who had, wouldn't make such a crass statement.


"If you're considering software that "requires" XP, you're contributing to the feeding frenzy."

Your talking the technology industries here. It's one of the most aggressive industries mankind has. Nothing stays still for more than two minutes.

That's called the laws of evolution and progress. There is nothing you or anyone else can do about it. Sit on the shore line all you want, but the water will eventually wash over your feet ..knees ....head.


"What works best for most people is 98se or w2k."

Completely and utterly unsubstantiated. You have no proof of that whatsever, the statement is randomly plucked from your head to try to back up and illustrate bogus points.


"2k is rock solid. Been using a "final-beta" {?!] for years. Only BSOD came from USB plug/unplug."

Yes, 2k is rock solid, I use it a lot and like it a lot ... as I do XP pro. Which is also rock solid and offers more in a lot of key pivitol areas -- desktop environment and networking to name two. That might be that evolution thing kicking in again, that you don't seem to grasp.

I also use 98SE (for reference) and nostalgia because that's the operating system that most of a certain age grew up with and have distorted memories of. Especially when they jumped from 98 to ME and discovered ME needed a little work. Which was laughable if anyone remembered early 98s.

They were that entrenched in 98 usage that ME got a bum rap purely out people not adjusting to another 9x based OS. There are a ton of reasons why people spout unrealistic bulls--- about Windows ME and you demonstrate it beautifully.


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Response Number 12
Name: ludedude25
Date: September 17, 2004 at 15:53:04 Pacific
Reply:

Any windows os can be a pain or painless. It just depends on who's using it!

The most problems I encounter are lack of antivirus, spyware from use of IE, and people not knowing how to do scheduled disk cleanups and defragments.


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Response Number 13
Name: Nesh
Date: September 19, 2004 at 15:33:05 Pacific
Reply:

Viking, way to tear that guy apart :-)

I don't really have anything to add to this, except Im an ME user, and the only problems I've had are that it refuses to let me put in a network card (why, I have no idea) and other people saying it sux. Sure, it ain't 2k or XP, but it was the latest thing at the time, and it does me well. Why bother with anything else... As someone else here said, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. (you get lots of problems that way......)


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Response Number 14
Name: michael2
Date: September 26, 2004 at 07:52:27 Pacific
Reply:

Jizumonkey, there is a slideshow function in Win ME. You have to customize a folder to get that option.
VIEW - CUSTOMIZE THIS FOLDER - NEXT - CHOOSE AN HTML TEMPLATE - IMAGE PREVIEW - FINISH.

I use Win ME and have as little running in the background as possible and it works great. I turned off the un-necessary programs using the info supplied at Pacs-Portal.


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