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Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 20, 2007 at 12:03:16 Pacific
OS: DOS/Blank drive
CPU/Ram: PIII 450 128 MB
Product: Dell XPST450
Comment:

I get past the first reboot when installing Windows Me. It give bluescreen and saids Windows Protection error on the blue screen.

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Response Number 1
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 20, 2007 at 12:13:04 Pacific
Reply:

Well it want let me edit my first post and it will let me edit the other post? Wierd. But anyway i meant to add that the disk i used is a OEM full version disk. I was doing a clean install. Even if i use the upgrade disk with a clean install it ask for previous windows ETC then reboots and i still get the error. But lasttime i upgraded from within windows 98 it worked but it left the old 98 recycle bin. Why did it leave the old recycle bin?
Also the keyboard would not respond at one point installing Win Me. But installing 98 runs smooth no problems.

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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: June 20, 2007 at 20:34:21 Pacific
Reply:

I've had very good luck with WinME.

When you say "clean install", you mean you're booting off a WinME boot floppy, running FDISK, then partitioning & formatting, THEN attempting to install WinME?

You can use either the full version or the upgrade to do a "clean install". If you use the upgrade, it will ask for proof of a previous version. At that point, all you need to do is pop in a Win98 CD & browse to the Win98 folder. WinME will confirm, then the installation will continue.

"it want let me edit my first post and it will let me edit the other post? Wierd."

Not weird at all...that's the way it's setup. The original post can NOT be edited.

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Response Number 3
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 21, 2007 at 13:06:14 Pacific
Reply:

Who deleted my reply from this morning?
Ok i installed Windows Me with the upgrade within Windows 98 SE it upgrades no problems. I use the upgrade disk with a bootdisk and do a clean install. it verifies the 98 SE CD it gets past the part where i put in my COA i click next its like the keyboard is disabled. If i use the full OEM version i get the following error after the first reboot.
While initializing IOS
Windows Protection Error. You need to restart your computer.
System Halted.

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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: June 21, 2007 at 13:42:28 Pacific
Reply:

You didn't answer my question. Are you formatting the HDD before attempting the install?

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Response Number 5
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 21, 2007 at 15:21:21 Pacific
Reply:

Yes i am formatting the HD. And yes i had the question answered. It was removed for some reason. The drive is a old 13 GB IBM drive. Hitachi now deals with IBM drives so i got the Diagnostics tools from Hitachi and the drive is good no erros. Also i erased the drive with the Hitachi disk. I then recreated the partitions with the Windows Me bootdisk. I rebooted. Then booted back up with the Windows Me bootdisk and formatted the drive like this.
Format c:\u it formatted fine no errors. So its not a drive issue.

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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: June 21, 2007 at 17:53:03 Pacific
Reply:

"Format c:\u it formatted fine no errors"

Why are you using the "U" switch?? It's totally unnecessary.

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Response Number 7
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 21, 2007 at 19:08:43 Pacific
Reply:

Ok well it worked. Why ask why? thats the way ive been taught to do it. It works. There is.
Format c:\U
Format C:\S (Win98 only)
What else is there?


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: June 22, 2007 at 08:39:38 Pacific
Reply:

"What else is there?"

Uh, how about just

format C:

??

BTW, it's supposed to be a forward slash, not a backslash, such as

format C: /u

but it's unnecessary. And from what I've read, there's some question whether the "U switch" is even supported by the WinME boot floppy (which is what you should be using)

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Response Number 9
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 22, 2007 at 12:16:50 Pacific
Reply:

The C://S switch is unsupported not C:/U. My mistake about the /\ i don't see why there was a big deal made about it when you know what i meant.

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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: June 22, 2007 at 14:06:51 Pacific
Reply:

You don't need to use the S or the U switch!

"My understanding is that the /U (unconditional) paramter became redundant starting with DOS 7.x and was disabled with ME. Prior to this DOS provided the UNFORMAT command, which was coupled to whether a FORMAT /U had been done or not. When the UNFORMAT command was dropped there was no need for the /U option and all formats became "unconditional". The /U continued to be accepted, but was effectively ignored."

http://discussions.virtualdr.com/ar...

http://www.computing.net/windowsme/...

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Response Number 11
Name: Derek
Date: June 22, 2007 at 17:22:36 Pacific
Reply:

I suspect the slash direction was mentioned simply because it is very important to get it right when using it.

Sometimes when I've ignored these details the poster has then come back to say the command didn't work.

DerekW


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Response Number 12
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 22, 2007 at 17:31:05 Pacific
Reply:

Well the problem still exsist.

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Response Number 13
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 22, 2007 at 17:37:45 Pacific
Reply:

Windows Me bootdisk. I choose without CD-Rom support. I type.
Format C:\u
It doese work with a Windows Me bootdisk.


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Response Number 14
Name: Derek
Date: June 22, 2007 at 18:37:40 Pacific
Reply:

I'm confused.

You say that this "incorrect command" does work:

Format C:\u

By "does work" do you mean you have now been able to format the HD? If so it must have ignored the \u part.

Or are we to assume you really mean:
Format C: /u (which might be OK but is unnecessary)

It's 2.40am here in UK so I'm off but if you are still in trouble then for the benefit of others I would try again sticking to the conventional commands that about everyone else uses (exactly as written, including the space where shown):-

fdisk

format c:

We can then move on to other ideas knowing that the correct commands are being entered.

DerekW


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Response Number 15
Name: Derek
Date: June 22, 2007 at 18:53:50 Pacific
Reply:

Really am off now but this might help:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255867

They advocate format c: /s which is not usually necessary but I'll run with it.

DerekW


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Response Number 16
Name: Viking
Date: June 23, 2007 at 03:01:56 Pacific
Reply:

Have you tried the simple stuff first like unplugging the keyboard and mouse for a few seconds at the point just before you know where it's going to "stick" - then plugging them back in?


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Response Number 17
Name: CHKDSK
Date: June 23, 2007 at 09:23:41 Pacific
Reply:

Yes i have tried unplugging the keyboard and mouse. And yes im sorry for the different name. I didn't realize i was logged in under this name.

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256 MB Ram
40 GB Harddrive
Windows XP Pro

Laptop
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1GB DDR2 Ram
120 GB Harddrive
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C: 83.89 GB WinxpPro
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Response Number 18
Name: Viking
Date: June 23, 2007 at 11:14:35 Pacific
Reply:

I would follow up by inspecting (and if necessary very gently buffing with soft card) the metal contact pins of the memory and reseating the memory stick.

....then I'd be running memtest on said stick.


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Response Number 19
Name: Derek
Date: June 23, 2007 at 11:50:34 Pacific
Reply:

I'm right with Viking. There is no "fix-all" for computers but tarnish on the RAM edge connectors is often the reason for all manner of general problems.

DerekW


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Response Number 20
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 25, 2007 at 19:16:15 Pacific
Reply:

You saying the ram is bad? Now i had some of the post removed. Why do people keep asking why im installing Windows Me? Like i asked before. Why ask Why? I really don't think the ram is bad. I can install XP With no problem. The computer is just too slow for XP.

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Response Number 21
Name: jam
Date: June 25, 2007 at 20:38:19 Pacific
Reply:

"The computer is just too slow for XP"

Only because you don't have enough RAM.

"You saying the ram is bad?"

No. But you should test it with memtest86 to confirm that it's good.

"Why do people keep asking why im installing Windows Me? Like i asked before. Why ask Why?"

I think it's interesting because a few months ago you said you didn't like WinME, had no luck with it, would never install it, Win98SE is much better, etc.....

http://www.computing.net/windows95/...

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Response Number 22
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 25, 2007 at 21:25:23 Pacific
Reply:

Ok well l.o.l i say im not going to do alot of things and i do them again. This is a whole different computer anyway. Its another one that was in my dads office he bought home and gave me scence they upgraded.

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Response Number 23
Name: Viking
Date: June 26, 2007 at 03:14:13 Pacific
Reply:

CTG, take your RAM (memory) stick(s) out of the motherboard slot(s).

Look it over and check the bottom edge metal contacts. Check for grime, gunk, dirt or anything else that shouldn't be there.

If you see a build up of crap, carefully clean it off using a piece of card, a hard rubber, etc.

Now put the RAM (memory) stick(s) back in the motherboard slot(s), put everything back as you found it.

If needed, you can now run memtest to see if the RAM (memory) is going bad.

You are now troubleshooting your computer for yourself and learning a little in the process.


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Response Number 24
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: June 26, 2007 at 08:28:50 Pacific
Reply:

The ram is new and has been tested ok.

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Response Number 25
Name: Viking
Date: June 26, 2007 at 12:29:42 Pacific
Reply:

I'll take you at your word on that.

Assuming you got rid of the partitions you created using Fdisk, I would use a different hard drive wiping tool (other than the Hitachi one you mentioned).

Use DBAN. Don't forget to read the dban FAQ's before using.

After you've wiped the drive, shutdown the box and unplug it from the mains. Open the case up and unplug the hard drive's power and IDE cables. Same with the optical drive's power and IDE cables - I'll even let you double check that RAM while you're there ;)

After you've done that check the Windows ME disk isn't scratched.

Plug everything back in nice and tight and power up again ~ from the top, try the installation again ~ post exactly what happens this time round.



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Response Number 26
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: July 2, 2007 at 19:34:20 Pacific
Reply:

I used DBAN wiped the drive and cleaned the ram. Still have same problem. Also found a dell rescource CD for my model ran diagnostic test no problems. Thats why it took awhile for me to reply back.

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