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Name: $$%%%@*(
Date: February 19, 2001 at 14:53:55 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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For those that have read my posts you know that I am no fan of Windowz ME. I would like to point a few things out so that no matter what Windowz operating system you run you can atleast have some quality uptime.
If your machine runs like a dog or boots incorectly. Crashes regularly! You are wasting your energy by screwing with it to get it working. Putting up with crummy preformance is also a waste of time!!
Since the inception of computers in daily life the main point of PC use is to BACK UP YOUR DATA!!!!!!
If you have no data than you can skip the "BACK UP YOUR DATA" step!!
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REINSTALL THE OS+++++REINSTAL THE OS+++++++++
REINSTALL THE OS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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20 to 30 minuts and your GOLDEN (@ least till you screw it up again)with ME screwing things up seems simple.
If you run Win2K boot of of the OS CDROM and choose repair. Repairing is the same as installing in place.
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Installing In Place= Running SETUP during your Windows session. It copies the entire OS back to the hard disk what it does NOT DO!! Fix a corrupt regestry nor does it replace any user files or applications!!
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For what it is worth the same goes for Win2K and Win98. You CAN't repair a damaged registery with a backed up damaged registery!! Allways UNINSTALL your VIRUS protection when you INSTALL IN PLACE. ALLWAYS CLEAR YOUR HARDDRIVE for a CLEAN INSTALL. If you leave the virus scanner in place you can expect BOOT SECTOR ERRORS.
If you only format your drive you can expect data corruption and bleed through. The first track of the hard drive known as "ZERO TRACK" will still retain boot records even if the FDISK /MBR or other switches are used.
Every hard disk manufacturer has utilities to ZERO FILL or ERASE the drives they make. They would not bother with these utilities if FDISK and FORMAT (even FORMAT /U) were completely effective!!
If something is wrong with your PC attempting to fix it when data or the registery is corrupted will cause more hair pulling and wasted time then REINSTALLING THE OS.
At best you can nurse the thing along....durin that nursing along is when you are supposed to be doing the final BACKING UP OF YOUR FILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If your WINSOCK is damaged you can extract a new one but the registery will no doubt be corrupt and even though SCANREG will report that the registery is fine it will still be corupt. Running modern PCs generate all sorts of CASH, LOG, .BAK. .TEMP, etc. files in places that you can't even fathem. Redoing the machine is only natural since left to its own function the machine will fill up with too much crap and become unworkable.
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System resources and RAM are seprate and together. All of the DOS based OSes including ME use only a small portion of the actual SYSTEM RAM for GDI, USER and SYSTEM resources. You can run upto 512MB of RAM in these DOS based OSes yet the OS will alot the SAME amount of space for SR regardless. ME uses more SRes than 98 so even with more RAM you will actually be able to run LESS APPLICATIONS. All of the system resources that you ar missing compared to Win98 are assigned to SYSTEM HEALTH & RECOVERY!! Part of the reason that ME sucks.
Even with MAX RAM and the minimal startup programms running the best reading you will get from your SYSTEM RESOURCE METER is 70-80%.......
Certain applications do not release the resources back to the USER GDI and the only solution is to restart the system.
The mor stuff you have installed on your machine the less resources you will have to work with and the sooner you will have to restart the system...............
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The above covers everything you can think of pertaining to errors,,,,another thing that you have NO CONTROL OVER are DEVICE DRIVERS!! Why do you think they come out with DRIVER UPDATES ALL THE TIME???


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Response Number 1
Name: y2j
Date: February 19, 2001 at 15:25:21 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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well i like your posted an enjoy just reading them your humor is what i like the most, keep them coming this is why i keep coming back here for knowledge and learning from what other tech's say on this from has made me a better tech all together, i will admitt there is nothing like a clean install, you cant beat it back up the programs you have on disk and just live with losing some info you have


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Response Number 2
Name: Lucky Eddie
Date: February 19, 2001 at 15:46:40 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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WoW!

Since day one of computing I have always taught and been taught back-up back-up back-up. It was a lot easier back in the days of DOS 2.?? when everything fitted onto a 5 1/4" floppy.

These days you can just throw in another HD and have more back up space than we could even dream about (A 40MB drive would have required a lottery win or two back then.)

You should be given a medal.

I think I'm gonna print that out and pin it on my wall.



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Response Number 3
Name: Miroslav Vadovic
Date: February 19, 2001 at 15:56:52 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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dont worry about backing up the whole 40 gig hard drive... only small portion of it is worth backing up (mp3's, digital photos... my documents...)... just burn them on CDR as you go.... usually it is too late to be backing up when the problem starts....
Refrmating HD can be bypased in 98 and 95 (i dont have it tested yet on ME) by installing the windows in different directory (WINDOWS1, next time WINDOWS2.... and so on... never get back to the old directory name, the problems would return).. old windows directory can be erased...after new is created
Regards Miro


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Response Number 4
Name: Lucky Eddie
Date: February 19, 2001 at 16:01:00 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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Hey Miro,

I said a forty megabyte (MB) hard drive.

I remember using windows 1....


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Response Number 5
Name: pete
Date: February 19, 2001 at 16:05:21 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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go easy on miro he's suffering from aol blues.


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Response Number 6
Name: y2j
Date: February 19, 2001 at 16:29:06 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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i already printed that and it hangs above my desk, i am still laughing at that, keeps my day going sometimes, when you here the babys cry i need help this wont work


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Response Number 7
Name: bowza
Date: February 19, 2001 at 16:44:46 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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44555289 your philosophy is very sound


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Response Number 8
Name: Ella
Date: February 19, 2001 at 21:07:06 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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LOL.. I copied and pasted that post for later printing before I read the rest of the posts. Well, I guess this means that since I was an idiot and didn't back up (I can hear the groaning as I sit here typing), I suppose just saving my graphics work, etc. off the desktop and letting the rest go is in order, eh? Have to reinstall/reformat again tomorow (for the 3rd time since buying this $4000 computer four months ago!). And this is no easy task... it's an 80g!! Yep, I could run the national debt through this thing. Man, ME sucks. And thanks for the constructive "scolding". :) Well done.


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Response Number 9
Name: Miroslav Vadovic
Date: February 20, 2001 at 08:10:59 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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oooops... sorry for misreading megs for gigs.... happens when suffering ME blues.... hehehe... i still have my 11 year old 20 meg harddrive.... seemed so big at that time... and it still works
Regards Miro


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Response Number 10
Name: Miguel Lozano
Date: February 20, 2001 at 08:55:10 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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The Dawn of the Age of the User will be when we don't need forums to air our everyday angst at what should only be the basis of our work and not our main reason for headaches. then again, what fun would computing be if we didn't have to FDISK every now & then?

Cheers
Miguel


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Response Number 11
Name: $$%%%@*(
Date: February 20, 2001 at 09:32:54 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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Miro.......GET OFF OF MY THREAD!! Post your own post and then reply to it over and over again if you want. No offence but you are becoming a real pain in the ASS!! Your computer problems will not be solved in here!
If you have not resolved your issues by redoing your machine or by switching to Win98 than you can return your PC for a refund or an exchange! None of us can help you since you are content on posting the same thing over and over again. You have become a complete BOAR!!!!!! You can't get your Compaq working then you offer advice and claim that you are doing testing. The ACID TESTS are over and done. Time for you to move on!!! We can solve issues and problems together but untill you get it together we have to suffer through your nonsense. You are BOARING. If we called a vote many would agree. I have givin you the best advice, install Win98 use one of the CDROMs from one of your other machines, "YOU HAVE MY PREMISSION" and use that ME disk as a desktop novelty item. Lemmon this and lemmon that, if you feel that ME is a LEMMON than put it in a package and MAIL it to someone who can help you like a LAWYER or to MS ATT: BILL GATES. Finally I read those two links that you supplied. While I agree with them they offer no support to both of your claims. AOL and WMP7, I'm sure that you also know that Norton AV is not compatable with AOL. I don't want to know if you are using Norton and for God's Sake don't tell me. The links you submitted are only two articles written regarding impressions of the MEOS on the two authors. Another thing that you can and should do is go to the MS REPORT A BUG SITE. We are not able to help you get your groove on so you should go to a place that really cares!! Just this past weekend I configured a system for a client at their home and they insisted on two things Win-ME and AOL. While I shudder at the thought AOL ran fine on their machine for antivirus they went with MaCafee.
You canstantly refer to multi-tasking! I'm sure you do know that that is not possible on a single processor PC. Server machines using SMP running 2,4 or more processors will multi-task. The best you can get from one processor is TIME SLICING!! Each and every running application will take a turn using the processor. If you have a 500MHz Lap Top than running two applications at the same time like WMP7 and Word each will split the available CPU cycles in real time you will be running both at 250Mhz. Laptops are interesting since they are completely intergrated and are very small. You have issues with "skipping and sputtering" that to the point is a hardware issue. The hard disk must buffer the MP3 file and so must any other running applications. Between everything that you have running at one time on an ME machine you will have very little in the way of system resources. Laptops also run special power savin software not from the OS but in your case Compaq. Usuall when running in battery mode the hard disk is dropped to a lesser speed to increase the battery life. When you plug your laptop in and use AC current your machine will still run off of the battery. PC's run on DC and use a rectifier to convert AC to DC. All of these power settings are configurable. You might want to look into your mouse pad, keyboard, lid and power settings. All in all Compaq Laptops are some of the worst maid laptops. My wife has one and so far the display has been replaced twice and the battery once and it is running Win95 and is not even a year old yet. It has tons of problems with any more than 7 running services or appz. Most of the damage is from the power saving settings. When you plug into the wall you can set power usage to high then when you go on battery you must remember to turn the settings back to default. Portable Computers are ALL THE SAME regarding POWER and BATTERIES!!! You will never see preformance like a desktop on a laptop. They are portable and are computers and you have to accept the fact!! I really doubt that you know how to use that machine.
DON"T REPLY DON"T REPLY DON"T REPLY DON"T REPLY


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Response Number 12
Name: Miroslav Vadovic
Date: February 20, 2001 at 14:48:49 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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$$%%%@*( , sorry for annoying you.. i dont expect HELP from this board, i know that NOBODY here can help me here...i am just expressing MY oppinion about windows ME, for people that are considering to upgrade, or to buy a new computer.... for those that know my posts, it is very easy to avoid reading them.... i am using MY OWN name, not hiding behind the %% ( no offense here, you have full right to hide behind them).... it is not so easy to make me shut up.... 30 years of communism did not do that... and 15 years of microsoft will not either.... i like to decide myself about the operating system to use, about the games i play, about the internet provider that i use...about the brand of the computer that i buy....i dont like beeing it dictated by microsoft.... i agree with your definition of multitasking.... but everybody understands under multitasking as doing more than one thing on a computer with a single processor...i respectfully disagree that the notebook computers SHOULD stall and sputter when doing something else while listening to the music.... my wife has 2 years old sony waio 266 mhz pentium II with 32 meg RAM and windows 98 that handles the so called multitasking perfectly.... also our company DELL notebooks with windows 98 handle the multitasking good.... i am not doing any ACID tests, the only thing i tried was to follow advice of some people on this board that told me 64 meg ram is not enough, so i upgraded to 192....
these problems are not limited to notebook computers, my friend bought a month ago midrange DELL desktop with windows ME and has exactly the same two problems as my notebook....
the talk, that -the notebook SHOULD perform like that- reminds me of a car salesman that tried to tell me that all cars should have a loud banging noise from the front wheel axle, that it is part of the performance and i should not worry bying it -
- about norton, i stopped using any virus protection 2 years ago, if i need to download something suspect i check it out at our network at work....all my data are burned on CDs and kept on two separate locations
i am aware of the AC and battery settings on the notebook computers and know how to use it :-)
I paid for windows ME and dont intend to STEAL windows 98 from my other computers to install it on the notebook and to completely void the manufacturers waranty (for whatever is it worth hehehe)...
the problems are not hardware related, the notebook has DVD ROM that works perfectly and if plaing CDs using anything else than WMP7 i can even multitask without stalling .... the modem problem IS a known issue - so called step 5....
it is not so easy to return a computer bought by mailorder, i would maybe do it if i knew that the quick fix for the modem problem was just an empty promisse to stall for time...
i can make the modem usually work when i need it to... it takes some effort and it never works as good as the modems on my windows 98 computers, just i feel it should not be my responsability doing it .... so again i am not looking for any help... just telling the truth about MY computer with ME... i can supply the copy tech support case number to confirm that, and copy of the flyer warning me about the POSSIBLE modem problems... my stand IS and WILL be - i paid for a working modem and for working WMP7 and microsoft did not deliver them -
p.s. i am trully sorry for 2.5% drop in MSFT there is no connection whatsever between my posts and the stock price movements...and i dont have any wested interest to move it in any direction
Regards Miroslav Vadovic


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Response Number 13
Name: $$%%%@*(
Date: February 20, 2001 at 15:15:34 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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After all of that I will summerize what you have said," I MIRO AM AN IDIOT!!" Not to mention that I asked you to not reply to my posts nor to the last post above. From here on out when you post on my threads I will be reporting them as offensive. Your posts are offensive since you are offensive. If you are not offensive than you are an idiot. I think that reading posts from idiots is as offensive as listening to one! Idiots are offensive so you are both and idiot and offensive!! Now go find a new home. Communisum made you into an ass-hole to boot. They did themselves a favor by being rid of you and dumping their crap on the US!!
SHUT TH FFF UP MIRO!!! You BOAR!!


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Response Number 14
Name: Miroslav Vadovic
Date: February 20, 2001 at 16:29:52 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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pleasure is on my side :-)
Regards Miro


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Response Number 15
Name: pete
Date: February 20, 2001 at 19:33:08 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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miro,miro,miro you sure do have a knack of pissing people off...we all know what windows ME is all about we don't need it rubbed in our faces.miro i'm not trying to be a prick but your posts are old news get over it and move on for all of our sakes.


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Response Number 16
Name: jimi_l
Date: February 21, 2001 at 02:53:54 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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Although much of what you said is sound,I must disagree on one point.I run 128m sd ram and through sheer laziness have a pretty good sized start-up file and regularly boot to 91-93%.Certainly better than 70-80% stated by your first post.


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Response Number 17
Name: Jay Sears
Date: February 24, 2001 at 09:36:14 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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Boot to 95% with Win ME. Buwhahahahahahaha


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Response Number 18
Name: 8==========)
Date: February 25, 2001 at 00:44:24 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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It appears to me that both $$%%%@*( and Miro have WAY WAY WAY (how many times could I put WAY???) too much time on their hands w/ their short novel posts. I actually believe that $$%%%@*( knows his $h!t but hey guys get a frickin life, go drink some beer or try to get laid. If you wanna argue go to a chat room.


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Response Number 19
Name: palliated
Date: April 8, 2001 at 15:09:52 Pacific
Subject: I can't see the big deal...........
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stupid. reinstalling is retarded. do the research and understand why it wont work. i hope you were being sarcastic about the whole thing. if not, whatever, more work for me. the less you know, the more i get paid.


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