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Name: Jeannette
Date: August 4, 2003 at 13:50:52 Pacific
Subject: Get rid of Norton expired message
OS: Window ME
CPU/Ram: Pentium 4/128 megs
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I'm using Windows ME.. How can I get rid of the daily message from Norton expired subscription message. I've already unchecked in the Options to notify me when subscription has expired but I still get Norton's expiration message every day on first boot up. Any suggestions??? thank you


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Response Number 1
Name: michael2
Date: August 4, 2003 at 14:28:37 Pacific
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I have Norton System Works 2002, and this may be similar....

open the program, select OPTIONS - ANTI-VIRUS - MISCELLANEOUS - the check box is there to opt in or out of the reminder.

Since your AV program is possibly one of the most important programs on a PC, I would be reluctant to let the subscription lapse.



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Response Number 2
Name: Jeannette
Date: August 5, 2003 at 05:35:40 Pacific
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Thanks for your reply... I've already done what you've suggested but I still get the message. I feel I should not have to be pestered to renew if I choose not to until next year. By the way, I forgot to mention it's Norton AntiVirus 2002 :o)


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Response Number 3
Name: wawadave
Date: August 6, 2003 at 19:11:31 Pacific
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an out of date virus scanner on your pc you most likely wont have a running computer by next year.

have a nice day


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Response Number 4
Name: xcks
Date: August 10, 2003 at 05:48:35 Pacific
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My very 1st guess is to simply go to Control Pannel, Scheduled Tasks and guess who's hideing their sorry ... little self in there? Norton (live updater) I tink its called. Personally getting rid of Norton all together is the best decision you will ever make for your computer. What a complete piece of junk. ... Dont get me started lol. First of all its like asking a VW Bug to tow a Semi through the Colorado Moutains. Norton is a major major major drag on your pc. It's a know fact that no anti virsus system ever made is going to stop you from getting a virus, it only advises you of such AFTER the fact. All that is nessary to have a happy healthy computer is a firewall, and keeping things up to date if problems start accureing, if it aint broke dont fix it / update stuff. Second there is a FREE On-line scan avaible, with unlimited usage to ck the machine for virus. http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp
Be advised that Pencillian (a free trial offer or parent company of housecall) is NOT compatible with Windows ME system. The free scan is completely safe, I use it once or twice a week. OR if you feel it nesary to have a anti virus program on your machine get one for free at http://www.grifsoft.com and tell Mr Norton your keeping your $50.00 this year, nobody suckers me twice. lol.
They do make a Norton CLEANER to clean the machine, however I dont have the actual addy handy at this moment, I will look if you wish. Hope this helps if not the below is another suggested method, the examples just dont happen to be labled for Norton, but the method of removal is the same no matter what the name. Have A Nice Day!


Trash Apps
(Dammit, quit loading up and bothering me everytime I start my computer!!)
If you have unwanted programs loading and bugging you at startup, here's how to get rid of them.
Trash App Exorcism Tutorial for Windows
Trash Apps infesting your StartUp folder
When "trash" programs run themselves at start-up, they typically do it by placing a shortcut to themselves into your Windows StartUp folder, usually located at c:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp\. (If you can't find its entry there, skip down to the next paragraph.) Usually deleting the StartUp shortcut and the program it points to is enough to make it stop bothering you.

EVIL APPS: Particularly nettlesome programs will keep re-installing themselves into your StartUp folder no matter how many times you delete them! This is where a dummy executable comes in handy. Replace the trash app with the dummy executable (copy over the unwanted app), leaving the StartUp entry intact. This will usually trick the installer into thinking it's installed! As an added measure, make the dummy executable read-only. Viola, the trash app is history!

Trash Apps infesting your win.ini file
Some trash apps, particularly those that fancy themselves device drivers (censorware apps like to do this) will put references to themselves in your system's win.ini file. They are loaded by a line in this file starting with either "load=" or "run=", similar to the following:

load="C:\Trash\App\junkprogram.exe"

To take care of this, open your win.ini file (normally located at C:\Windows\win.ini) in Notepad or another text editor, and delete the line starting with load= or run= that loads your trash app. They are usually near the beginning of the file. Restart the computer, and the app will not load on startup anymore.

If you don't want to actually delete the entry (e.g. if you are trying to determine which of several entries is the trash app), you can instead place a semicolon (;) at the beginning of the offending line. This will make Windows ignore it while giving you the ability to restore it later.

Note: Don't delete anything if you don't know what it is. It may sometimes be a legitimate program, or a device driver used by your system.

Trash Apps infesting your Registry

Been all through your StartUp folder and win.ini and couldn't find it? Sometimes a particularly nasty trash app will install a reference to itself, not in your StartUp folder (where you'd expect to find it), but in your system Registry, where even brave men fear to tread. So, if a trash app is running at start-up, and it's not in your StartUp folder or win.ini, it's in your Registry. Here's how to get rid of it:

1) Open REGEDIT. It should have been installed when you installed Windows. You can most easily do this by clicking Start > Run, and entering REGEDIT in the box. (Click OK). The Registry Editor window will appear.

If you have used Registry Editor before and are comfortable with it, skip the following paragraph. If you are a newbie or you've never used REGEDIT before, read on--standard warnings and stuff.

You may have heard somewhere that editing the Registry is dangerous. Incidentally, this is why so many makers of trash apps place the start-up information here-- many users have never heard of the Registry, let alone edited it. The Registry is an important part of your system, so don't go randomly changing stuff in there if you don't know what you are doing--this is how problems happen, and this is why people tell you that you shouldn't go messing with your Registry. Carefully follow the instructions below and it will be a very safe process. Randomly mess around and change/delete stuff, and you may end up reinstalling Windows--which isn't much fun.

2) Once in Registry Editor, press the F3 key to bring up the Find dialogue. Type "RunServices" in the box. This probably won't find your trash app, but it will bring us to about the right location in the Registry. When the Find completes, you should have a folder named RunServices highlighted in the left pane, with several similar-sounding folders (Run, RunOnce, etc.) listed nearby. Click on the first one, "Run". The righthand pane will list the applications that run at start-up. Under "Name" will be the program names, and under "Data" will be the path and filename of the program.

Look carefully at the list and see if you find the program that is annoying you. If you find it, highlight it and use Edit > Delete to remove it. If you don't see it, cycle through the other nearby Run-like folders (there may be several) and look for them there. Be careful not to delete anything unless you are sure it is your trash app.

If you have looked through all the visible "Run"-like folders and *still* haven't found the trash app, press F3 again to find the next RunServices folder, and repeat the steps above. On some Windows setups, particularly where several people share the same machine, there will be several of each Run folder. Continue in this manner until you receive a message such as "Finished searching through the registry." You should have found it by now!

3) Close Registry Editor. The next time you restart your computer, the trash app will not bother you!

Why Trash Apps?
It's the newest fad. Programs that have one goal and one goal only: To forcibly install themselves on your computer, intentionally making themselves hard to find and harder to eliminate, and annoy you every time you start your computer. Why do these programs subversively install themselves into your computer's Startup files so they continually pester you, over and over, every time you reboot? Ususally as some form of promotion or advertising--it will either install a program that somehow makes someone else money when you use it, or install some kind of stub that will beg you and beg you and beg you to install such a program. Some good examples:

AOL Instant Messenger: This is an instant-message (IM) app that displays a flickering eyesore of a banner advert (AOL 250 Hours! Click HERE!!!!) at the top of its window, as well as assaults you with large popup ads, not unlike a Warez Site. It gets installed automatically when you install Netscape Navigator and you have no choice in the matter whatsoever. Upon installing Navigator, an AOL spamware stub will infest your Registry and continue to hound you and hound you on start-up until you either install the AIM program, or use the tactics above to forcibly eliminate the parasite stub from your system.
Real Video Player (RealPlayer): This is an audio/movie player. It automatically downloads--and tries to get you to use--a collection of sponsored "channels", represented by loudly flickering ad-banners. It can be said with some certainty that Real Networks probably gets paid when you use them. The program will also load a "SmartStart" or more recently, "StartCenter" application on start-up that will needlessly display the RealPlayer logo in your task tray and waste memory.
QuickTime: It's a video player, that much I do know, but why is it necessary to load this at start-up? Maybe my eyesight is going or something, but I don't remember seeing any videos during the boot sequence. (It turns out the app that was loading was to check that .mov files were still associated with the Quicktime player, and forcibly change them back if you'd had the audacity to select yourself another video player).


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