Why don't you update winme. There is an internet explorer 5.5 sp1 update that fixes most if not all the problems you are having. Its called windows update, or you can go to a download site like cnet and download the setup file from there. I haven't had any problems since updateing the internet explorer, why don't you try it.

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Boy! that was a flury of comments... I have to respond with I have all the latest greatest drivers, latest greatest updates etc. Ad Nauseum... ME does run, installs beautifully, the absolute best documentation on Fdisk I have ever seen. It still is not a stable OS (there is no such animal, Maybe linux).. I mean, that is what Whistler is all about, combining NT2000 stability with ME practicality. I have worked thru systems since the Radio Shack Trash 80, every one that came down the pike. I just don't believe that with all the experiance, and beta users out there on every system known to mankind that these problems were not well known and prevalent prior to the release of ME. I believe that ME is just and interim OS slapped together to appease the masses until they can pull together Whistler, which from what I have been reading on this forum will be down the road some distance yet. Then beware, the problems will start again. I am happy that ME works for some people. I just feel bad for the people who lack the experiance to dig in and start over when they crash. There is marginal help and a lack of empathy from manufacturers and the like. I still have ME in the system, and awaiting updates. Thanks for all the input.

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I've installed ME beause of multiple errors in Win98 (even a fresh installation didn't work). There are some problems when you have many open windows - but i think there are some problems with the drivers. I fixed some problems with new Drivers and some with IE5.5. But it's right - it is no stable system ou there from M$ except Win2k in some cases... My Linux boxes are runnig quite better!

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well ,i feel bad for the people this system doent run right for, i think the os is just great , i have had kernell32 errors my self and some other little bug's you just have to bite the bullet till the patches come out , i have put some many of the programs you people talk about on y system just to test them out to see if they work for me , i havent had any problems till norton utilities, i guess im stickin up for ME

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I have built 2 computers in the last two weeks and have installed ME on both of them. I have had NO problems whatsoever. One reason for this may be that i installed Windows 98 first and installed all my drivers and older software prior to installing ME. It might be a problem with the watered down drivers on your PC. Some older software may not run well on ME but eventually we do have to up-grade our programs or we would still be using DOS. Perhaps the problem lies within us and not our stars. Your Little Bro...Bruce

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dont go on guit trip because of your hardware!!!!... the writing ont he windows ME box is that it requires 150mhz chip and 32 meg RAM... and that it is compatible with windows 98, 98SE and 95 programs.... if not, it is matter of fraudulent advertizing.... windows ME is a lemon! Regars Miro

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If your having probswith ME, here is something microsoft didn't let the public know....from the promo to the full version there is no differance, except that the promo and the upgrade asks where is win98. If you install ME promo or upgrade from a newly formated HD when it asks for win98 just put it in the cd drive let it see it and remove it put the ME cd back in and continue the install and you have a clean install. don't install it over win98, and it works like a full version without all the bagage that goes with win98.

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OK, for all you anti ME guys out there with problems, first things first. FORMAT !!! clean install, windows WDM drivers intially, if your still f@#ked up, its time to throw away the cheap computers and pussy hardware. buy a real computer, my company developes and administers networking packages designed soley for windows'ME based systems, we use computers worth 4 times the ammount of such a computer bought at a stationary warehouse or toaster shop, WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS..come on guys, stop moaning ! its not the software, it is yourself.. you need to develope work arounds, install diff versions of drivers, directx, stay away from cheap software that f---s with the registry. if you are developing random problems; throw your made in taiwan apacer memmory chips out the window. Of course some variations of hardware may conflict when glorious Plug in play is running, mind the sarcasm !, but this is your problem not microsofts. time to sort things out for yourself.

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What was the point of that?? If anything your comments should make someone think twice before getting a, "Computer my company developes and administers networking packages designed soley for windows'ME based systems!!!"""""

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mister matz is right. it's not the software that is the problem, it's me!

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i installed me becuse of some problems with win98 it fixed them all up for me i think that me and win98 both have bugs you just need to keep up with the updates that microsoft gives you check the upgrades at lest once a month you never know what will be there THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO LOOK . winme is working fine !!!!

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Mattz... please.. read the writing on the windws ME box and dont send us on guilt trip about our hardware... Regards Miro

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Not to be a smart-***, but if anyone is running windows ME with a 150 Mhz processor and 32 mb of ram I would love to hear from them.

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Preston, is Norton2000 part of the windowsME? If not, is the requirement to have Norton2000 on your computer listed on the windows ME installation box? Every computer that worked under 98, 98SE and 95, and has 150 mhz chip and 32 meg RAM should work under windows ME. If not, then it is fraudulent advertizing. Regards Miro

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Doug French, microsoft wont talk to you untill you complain to your state attorney general office and cc them. Regards Miro

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Joe, thats what written on the windows ME installation box. Either it works and the problems are all in our heads... or it is a case of fraudulent advertizing. Regards Miro

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Miro, I'm sorry if your having problems with me but you need to take a step back and a deep breath. Stop talking about the specs on the box, YES, ME WILL run on the stated specs. But they are just MINIMUM req. All hardware is different. Why not put Linux on your computer and see how quickly you discover that hardware matters. I don't mean the lastest most expensive or advanced hardware either. I wanted to run Linux on one of my machines only to find out I couldn't because there was no driver support avalible for my sound card or modem. The same is true for ME 98se 98 95, some hardware causes conflicts. And cheep RAM can and does cause problems. Without RAM your system is junk, no amount of processing power can make your system work if you have no place (or reliable place) to store data as it travels to and from you HDD. As for Prestons comment, Miro he was simply staing that using Norton he was able to slove problems he was having. Norton does house keeping on your OS that needs to be done, it is the nature of an OS that things will get bloated or misplaced and Norton can sucessfully trim the fat. Norton also can catch errors that are caused by the USER. Maybe you don't relise that everytime you install or uninstall a program you are helping to contribute to the decay of your OS stability by adding or removing more lines of code that were not there when the OS was developed. Miro, the comment about older software not working right has nothing to do with min system specs (you pointed out that all Windows OS's have the same specs) The fact is that the Windows OS has changed so much that some things are not there or have been moved and older software can not run if it can't interact with the OS. Yes ME is compatible with older software as Microsoft claims, however, is your new sound card or video card or whatever compatible with your motherbord as the manufacxturer claims? Maybe not, there are thousands, hundreds of thousands of companys making hardware and software for IBM compatible machines and it is IMPOSSIBLE for ANY company to know who has done what and if there software or hardware is making calls to odd places in the OS that wont exist in the revision (Some hardware or software make access to components of an OS that were not designed to be used in such a way and therfore it is resonable for Microsoft to believe that if they remove that code that it will not affect combatibility) Go ahead, and write your state attorny general Miro, it's your right. Say what ever you like and believe whatever you like. My opinion however is that ME is a new operating system and it will take time to get the bugs worked out and to learn how to most effectively use it. I for one enjoyed learning how to manipulate Win 98se like a puppet. I had my computer in total contral right down to the pitch of the fan hum with Win 98se and soon I will have Win ME in total control also. I rather enjoy learning how to manipulate the beast into a well trained machine. Miro, you have been nothing but abusive and ignorant so far, flaming people who didn't deserve it. Mattz may have desered it as he has shown his ignorance, but others gave an honest and respectiful opinion and you just droped a bomb on them, GROW UP. I can't wait till this bored goes through yet another change of patrons, cause I for one don't like the new crop (I appoligize to those who don't deserve to be included in that last statement)

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You guys are all on crack. Just recently i formated my hard drive that was running "Windows 2000 Professional" becuase it was realy s---ty for games. I installed WindowsME and it works great! Not one problem at all! I agree with mattz GET A REAL SYSTEM.

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Local42, first i appologise if i offended anybody and i appologize for my sarcastic coments here on this board. I dont mean to put down any posters that are giving valuable advise here. The only thing that i am trying to do is to wake up people. We are here on a guilt trip for our hardware or lack of Norton utilities or other tweeking programs. I am trying just to direct the anger of people here towards the propper soursce - the halfproduct windows ME. I dont doubt that it works for many people perfectly. But the microsoft claims on the box about the system requirements and compatibility and plug and play are ridiculous. I was using all microsoft operating systems starting with DOS, windows 3, 95, 98 and now ME. I never had such big problems with the other systems. Maybe it was pure luck. My hardware should be adequate to run windwos ME i have it bought (unfortunately) factory installed on my brand new compaq notebook computer. It is $2000 pentiumIII 600mhz, 64meg RAM, 10GIG harddrive 8meg AGP videocard, DVD ROM. Frist thing that came out of the box was a flyier warning me that i might experience problems with connecting to AOL - and i did -. Compaq techincal support is not able to resolve this issue for me in last two months. My second problem from day one is Windows Media Player 7. It stalles when playing CD. I had to take WMP7 off my older computer pentium II 266 mhz that has 128 meg ram for the same reason. Both these problems occured right out of the box before i had any chance to "decay" my operating system. We would not tolerate similar things from any car manufacturer, and they woudl recall their product. Sorry for dropping BOMBS on people. I sincerelly apologize for it. My intent here was to point to the fact that microsoft windwos ME is supposed to work without using Norton Utilities, without having Mem Turbo, without having 256 or 512 meg RAM and without having pentium4. Without us realizing these facts microsoft can abuse us into buing any unreliable piece of sh*t from them. I allow myself beeing abused by a person, but i dont let an INSTITUSION to abuse me. Regards Miro

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I agree with Invader and some of the others who have said that it makes a big difference what type of system and hardware you're running. I have a suspicion that a lot of ME's problems are caused by hardware and/or driver conflicts and the performance-hogging system restore and pc health programs. And no matter what it says on the box, don't try to run ME on less than a pentium 3 or AMD Athlon 600 Mhz with 128 MB RAM minimum (but not more than 512, as ME doesn't support more RAM than that.) I'm currently running ME on a Gateway AMD Athlon 950 with 128MB RAM and a 10gig HD,GeForce2MX and Soundblaster PCI with the latest drivers and I've only had a few, minor problems that I expect will be better once I've disabled system restore and pc health.

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Miro, I'm sorry for my long winded post. It would seem that maybe I need to take my own advice (step back and take a deep breath) I understand your frustration, and I wish ME or ANY OS would work "Out of the box" Unfortunately they don't. I aggree that we as consumers should stand together and say "NO MORE" "Give us a working COMPLETE OS or leave" I do, however, like ME. I have it running well and trimed a lot of fat, maybe I shouldn't have to put in the amount of work I did to get things running well. But that's why I bought ME, cause I knew it would be a challenge to make it run even better than I have 98se running. SO my point is, I enjoyed the time I spent learning to tame ME and sometimes I forget that other people don't want to do all this work (and your right they shouldn't have too) or don't know how. I'm glad to see I was wrong in my first opinion of you. Again I appologise for my behavior. Good Day, Local_42

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Well after Local42 pulled his head out of his ass, s---ting on about how much time he has to fondle the likes of win98se, i mean, WHY ? he has to much time on his hands, the only thing hes fondling is himself, thanks steve and tim for being the only sane one on this web site.. clearly in my initial posting i was stating only that hardware is a contributing factor.. but we cant argue with people who sit around all day listening to the pitch of their fan. local ! get a woman. sorry local but miro has a point. the specs are not minimum they are recomended, you try installing Me on a computer with DX4-100,16mb ram, ok it wont work ! right now change the processor to the likes of 233 this can be done with an IDT winchip CPU, throw in an extra 16mb = 32mb, NOW it works,, fair enough, now remove the extra ram, and revert back to the dx4 100 whats happened ? its still working.. slow may it may seem, but this is microsoft putting a hard ware block in to stop moaning b---tards like yourself form installing it onto such a computer (dx4-100) and then complaining about the speed and keep your hands off the puppet, miro if your running on a 150mhz, i feel sorry for you, but the speed of the computer does not effect the stability of an OS, just how fast it runs..

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Mattz, i dont run windows ME on 150 Mhz chip and with 32 meg memory (even if that is the mimimum requirement for windows ME written on the box) My computer is brand new (3 months old) Compaq presario 1700T 600 Mhz pentiumIII 64 meg RAM 10 gig hard drive 8 meg AGP graphics. Windows ME came with it factory installed with a flyer saying that i might experience problems connecting to AOL - and i did - and that i should look for service packs. Other problem from day one is WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 7. it is stalling from the day one even if not multitasking. I had the same problems with WMP 7 on my older 266 mhz 128meg RAM desktop. I was sold a lemon operating system :-( Sorry for the spelling Regards Miro

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Tim what you on about? ME works on my Celeron 400MHz just fine, no major probs. It works just as well as 98SE did but with some neater features.

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Ok miro , the first thing you should do is delete the system registry and any other system configuration files such as system.ini etc, then re-install the OS. with a factor built computer such as gate way, dell etc, you want to shy away from formatting, as this just pissed the manufacturer off big time as they include drivers and certain system tools, for diagnosing problems etc, these are usually very well hidden, and not even local and his fondling could probably find them. ok if this doesnt fix your problem i would sugest you return your computer for replacement RMA.

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Yeah take back your new notebook Miro, get them to put 98 on it, then get off the ME boards..... I'll look for your court case on the news Vadovic vs Microsoft, should last for years that one.

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Ill second calculon..

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Calculon, i tried to get compaq to remove ME and install 98 on my notebook. They told me it would void waranty on my computer. I did not say that i am suing microsoft, i only complained to the state attorney general office. I let them do the work, i had very good experience doing that with dealing with other institutional abuses. I will go off this board that day when i will be able to connect to AOL using windows ME and when i will be able to use Windows Media Player 7. I paid for these fetures and they were not delivered. Windows ME is a lemon, despite that it works on many computers. Regards Miro

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Mattz, If you bothered to pay attention you would know I aggree with you that hardware is a contributing factor. It was very clearly stated. Weather the wording is Minimum or Recomended the point is still the same. I, again very clearly, said that it doesn't run on those specs (or at least not well enough to speak of) Was there a point to your post? Do you really believe I sit around and listen to the pitch of my fans? It would appear you have just regergitated the same information that was posted by the majority of people on this thread. Keep it commin Mattz, what a riot. Do you get paid to hang your ignorance out in the wind?

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mr local, you clearly stated your self about u and the pitch of your fan.. now whos not paying attention to something that was said by yourself.. im not going to say no more, your ego is obviously to much for anyone

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o an are local, isnt it a little strange to agree with ignorance ? its people like you who hang around these sites and dont do anything to help apart from piss other people off what a stupid bloody comment, "o i agree with mattz but he has shown his ignorance" www.whatthef---.com

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yawn...............Yes I did make that comment. It is called an exageration. In case you didn't know it is possible for an ignorant person to be correct about somethings. I assume you know nothing about rocket science but I'm sure that doesn't mean you don't know anything about computers. ego eh? I think your first post to this thread clearly shows whos ego is out of control. My final word on the matter, I have been here a long time learning how to fix my computer troubles and helping others to do the same. poor, poor, Mattz....................

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ohh dear, im crying... he learnt how to fix his computer on the web, ! and of course he knows more than me, i on the other hand only work for microsoft on the networking solutions devision. na im only a level 4 programmer and systems analist.. yeah mate sweet as.. you stay in your world and ill stay in thee world.. good bye freak you fondle windows i write windows

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sigh........I guess this thread will never die. Bot of us have already said "my final word is...." and yet we have both posted back. I don't care what you do for a living or how much you know about computers and Windows. If you are programmer then kudos to you. While I think there are prroblems with the OS I my self could never even attempt to write a better one, you may posess that skill on the other hand. Mattz, I only know what I know, I have no idea what knowledge others have and therfore I would never assume I am more well versed on a topic than another poster. This is getting old Mattz. Unless your gonna add some new fuel to the fire I think this has died. Good Bye Jerk You build windows, I manipulate windows

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jerking is bad, u shouldnt do it.... if you can manipulate windows and your happy get the hell off this site... ok fuel to the fire, you attention span obviously fails you.... what causes protection errors on shut down local, dont say format, delete drivers, or programs, theres something simple you can do in the registry ? what is it ? u should know, u manipulate remember ! why doesnt win95 sr1 not work on a 350mhz AMD K6-2 processor local without the amdsupp patch installed, why ? expert ! could your manipulating get you around that one... define manipulating .... is that, editing the registry and removing estranious keys and values to make the computer run faster and cleaner, or maybee changing LBA sector sizes to make the hard drive more efficient in storage.. or is it changing the wallpaper so the desktop looks better ? please clarify.. we all want to know just what you do in your little dark corner in where eva the hell you reside.. apart from annoying the likes of //computing.net

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hehe.........I am happy so far, but ME is new to me (well so far it seems exactly like 98se with a few minor changes but eh)So I check here to see what problems people are having and for any new tweaks or information about the OS. As for your tech questions; I can't answer how to fix a problem I haven't encountered. As I encounter a problem I learn how to fix it. Sometimes it does involve registry edits. As far as wallpaper goes I prefer not to have any. A plain ole sold color is just fine with me. To be honest Mattz it is quite brite in my little office. I like being able to see what I'm doing while working on projects(fondling?) Can you answer your own questions Mattz? Seeing as i've never owned or fondled an AMD K6-2 processor I wouldn't know how to get one to work under those conditions. I really should be working right now Mattz. My heart isn't really in this right now. Good try though, you pose some interesting questions and I must admit off the top of my head I wouldn't be able to solve them with out some research or the input of others who have solved said problems. I'll stop rambeling now.......................thanks Mattz, I knew I could count on you to brighten my day, fool

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okkie doki then, well from now on local i think if you agree with someone you should use different words in saying so, ie: displaying ignorance is not an agreement.

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I believe one with the experience of writing windows should have knowledge enough to fix the problems conclusively, and we would all love the input. The only thing I can't believe is that any of you have enough time to help as many people as you could if you busy yourselves with senseless banter and verbal brutality. You should confer with and learn from each other to better help those on the lower rungs. If one merely proves himself better and the other leaves, the help available to the frustrated masses decreases by half. If you laugh at this, then you should check your reasons for writing on this site. If it's just to prove how good you think you are, you miss the point.

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on a system of less than the min specs, or the setup fails. i have a laptop that is three years old, its a 150mhz laptop with 40mb of ram and 1 meg of graphics (yes its sh*t, but then i only paied 200 for it) windows ME works fine.

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I've sweated for over a week now to get ME running on a P4/1.4Mhz, 256M RDRAM . . . and it's a complete pile of crap ! The blue screens just keep coming, and when one solves one conflict, ten others will take its place. Avoid it like the plague. I'll just go with Win2KPro. It's not sexy, but it keeps on chugging.

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Professional is a totally diff story than ME.. its built on NT which is geared torwards security over anything.. not games and such.. but 2000 pro allows that at least partly.. as far as WinME.. when you support as many drivers and such as it does.. dont complain when your 1 in a million hardware doesnt comply first off.. if you knew how to do things right.. you would understand that sometimes s--- happens.. errors occur.. and you just have to find out what went wrong.. why and how to fix it.. I mean.. unfortunately installing an OS does require some intelligence on your part.. Its gonna be very hard to find a OS that is completely compatible with everything.. i mean.. come on.. take the good with the bad.. gear your OS to what you have in hardware.. A lot of the issues may not be ME but your sorry drivers that companies give out.. or dont give out.. dont expect plug n play to find everything. or your in for a big mistake.. As far as the person who claims to work for microsoft.. i believe that about as much as i believe that Santa Claus screws Mickey Mouse during his Summer Break.. You sure as hell dont talk like a person who knows what he is talkin about.. Just thought id throw that out there.... To the rest of you.. stop bickering and just live with what you want to live with.. OS's are OS's figure it out...

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