I heard on some boards or somewheres that really doesn't matter that there is some problem with running defrag in wME that screws up the start up after or some stuff like that so needless to say ....I still havn't defragged yet and need to so whats the deal if anybody is aware of this and its not just some made up net stuff that goes around and around because some poor lost soul has nothing else better to do than toooo.............OH CRAP!...sorry...so anyway...anybody know about this and how to fix :o)........thanx in advance......

Turn off all programs running in the background,especially screensavers and anti-virus programs(Ctrl+Alt+Del...except explorer & systray),and defrag NOW! Don't know how long it's been since you have,or how long you've had your PC,but be prepared to let it run for quite a while. You can also run it in safe mode. (and you should run scandisk as well,in either normal or safe mode),

Here's a good resource,compiled by one of our regulars...(RenMan)

=== YOU ARE LOOOKING FOR THIS INFO ON ME AND DEFRAGGING === SYMPTOMS After use the Disk Defragmenter tool (or a third-party defragmenting tool) to defragment your hard disk, your computer continues to run correctly. However, when you restart your computer, you may receive any of the following error messages: Scandskw caused Fatal exception O3H in module user32.dll Mprexe caused an exception 03h in module user32.dll Statemgr caused an exception 03h in module user32.dll Rundll32 caused an exception 03h in module user32.dll Mstask caused an exception 03h in module user32.dll You might also receive error messages from a long string of sources, all of which point to either Gdi32.dll or Winmm.dll. CAUSE The following files may have been corrupted by Cmapieng.vxd: User32.dll Gdi32.dll Winmm.dll RESOLUTION Network Associates has provided a patch for Windows Me users. To obtain the update patch, see the following Network Associates Web site: http://download.nai.com/products/retail/english/cmapifix/Cmapifix.exe To resolve this issue, perform the following steps: Insert the Windows Me Startup disk and restart your computer. If a Windows Me Startup disk did not come with your computer, view the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article to learn how to create one: Q267287 How to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me On the Startup menu, click Start computer with CD-ROM support. Type the following commands, pressing ENTER after each command, where windows is the name of your Windows folder: c: cd windows\system ren user32.dll user32.dlx ren gdi32.dll gdi32.dlx ren winmm.dll winmm.dlx a: smartdrv.exe ext.exe When you are prompted "Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files," type cd-rom:\win9x, where cd-rom is the drive letter for your CD-ROM drive, and then press ENTER. This letter may be different when you are using a Startup disk. NOTE: Some OEM installations of Windows Me may have the cabinet files stored on your hard disk. The default location of these cabinet files is C:\Windows\Options\Install and you can type this path when you are prompted "Please enter the path to the Windows CAB files". However, if your cabinet files are not in this location, and you do not have a Windows Me CD-ROM, contact your hardware manufacturer to locate the files. When the prompt appears "Please enter the name(s) of the files you want to extract," type user32.dll gdi32.dll winmm.dll, and then press ENTER. When the "Please enter the path to extract to" prompt is displayed, type drive:\windows\system, where drive:\windows is the drive and folder in which Windows is installed, and then press ENTER. Review the displayed information. If it is correct, press Y, and then press ENTER. Type the following commands, where windows is the name of your Windows folder, pressing ENTER after each command: c: cd \windows ren cmapieng.vxd cmapieng.vxx NOTE: If the Cmapieng.vxd file does not exist in the C:\Windows folder, check for the existence of this file in the C:\Program Files\Cybermedia folder after you restart Windows, and then rename the file. Or, use the System Configuration Utility tool to prevent the Cmapieng.vxd file from loading. For additional information about how to use the System Configuration Utility tool to disable startup items, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q267288 How to Perform a Clean Boot in Windows Millennium Edition Restart your computer. Defragment the hard disk again. Frequently Asked Questions About This Issue Q: Is there a patch for this issue? A: Yes, Network Associates has provided a patch for Windows Me users. To obtain the update patch, see the following Network Associates Web site: http://download.nai.com/products/retail/english/cmapifix/Cmapifix.exe Q: I did not receive a Startup Disk with my computer, how do I get one? A: View the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article to learn how to create a Windows Me Startup Disk: Q267287 How to Create a Startup Disk in Windows Me Q: How do I know if this issue applies to me? A: Check for the existence of the Cmapieng.vxd file on your computer. If the file is on your computer, this issue applies to you. If the file is not on your computer, this issue does not apply to you. To search for files on your computer, click Start, point to Search, and then click For Files or Folders. Then type the name of the file or folder you want to find. In the Look in list, click the drive, folder, or network you want to search, and then click Search Now. Q: I do not have the Cmapieng.vxd file on my computer, but I get some of these error messages, what do I do? A: Visit the Windows 98 and Windows Me Error Message Resource Center for help with other error messages: http://support.microsoft.com/support/windows/topics/errormsg/emresctr.asp Q: What do I do if I am having other problems with the Defragmenter tool? A: View the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article to view a list of Microsoft Knowledge Base articles that apply to the Disk Defragmenter tool: Q286263 List of Articles About the Disk Defragmentor Tool Q: Where can I find more information about this issue? A: See the McAfee frequently asked questions (FAQ) Web site: http://www.mcafeehelp.com/faq1.asp?docid=362&menu=true MORE INFORMATION The following Network Associates products include the Cmapieng.vxd file that causes the issue: Cybermedia's Oil Change Uninstaller version 5 and earlier Guard Dog version 2.5 and earlier First Aid 97, 98 and 2000 McAfee Utilities 3.0 McAfee Office version 2 McAfee Office 2000 (version 3.0) The Help Spot The following current versions of these products (as of October, 2000), do not include the Cmapieng.vxd file: Uninstaller version 6 and later Guard Dog version 3.0 and later McAfee Utilities version 3.1 and later McAfee Office version 3.1 and later This is a list of products that require the patch to correct the defragmentation issue with Windows Me: McAfee Office 1.0 McAfee Office 2.0 McAfee Office 2000 McAfee Office 3.11*** First Aid 98** First Aid 98 Deluxe First Aid 2000 First Aid 2000 Deluxe Guard Dog 2.01* Guard Dog 2.5 Guard Dog 2.05 Internet Guard Dog 3.01 Internet Guard Dog 3.11 McAfee Utilities 3.0 McAfee Utilities 3.01 * Versions of Guard Dog prior to version 2.0 need a full product upgrade. ** Versions of First Aid prior to First Aid 98 need a full product upgrade. *** Cmapieng.vxd is installed on the hard disk with these products but is not registered in the registry. To run into this problem, you would have to edit the registry and add the correct line to load Cmapieng.vxd. NOTE: The patch does not make these products Windows Me compatible. See the McAfee site listed above for details on obtaining a Windows Me compatible upgrade for your product. The third-party contact information included in this article is provided to help you find the technical support you need. This contact information is subject to change without notice. There is in no way guarantees about the accuracy of this third-party contact information. The third-party products discussed in this article are manufactured by vendors independent of Microsoft; we make no warranty, implied or otherwise, regarding these products' performance or reliability.

I have a Celeron PC running Windows ME and once a week I run (manually) "Disk Clean Up", "Scan Disk", and then "Disk Defragmenter". I do a bunch of doc's, programming, hardware swapping and testing, and internet surfing. The only time I have problems with Windows ME Disk Defragmenter is if I don't delete my found sites on Copernic before I do my weekly maintenance. Please do not get me wrong here... Copernic is a great Multi-Search Engine... I love it!!! I have Copernic 2001 on my PC... (this also used to happen with Copernic 2000) If you log on to the internet before you do your defrag, go into Copernic, delete all of your found sites, and then exit Copernic, and log-off the internet. Re-start your PC and then do the de-frag. A "Disk Clean-Up", "Scan-Disk" and then do the "Disk Defragmenter" is the best way to keep your hard drive fresh and pert... Don't forget to delete all of your sent emails that you don't want anymore, empty your recycle bin (make sure there is nothing in there that you deleted on accident or really want to keep), and be sure to delete your found Copernic sites before doing the 3 D's above!!!.

i just use diskeeper, it is very fast and much more reliable. But hey what do i know