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Name: HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee
Date: June 21, 2002 at 15:58:47 Pacific
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Not necessarily a WinME problem but, since it happened on an ME machine, here goes:
I had 20,000+ mp3's in over 700 folders on an external drive, when I suddenly found myself looking at 14,000+ songs that won't play. Properties show that all the file sizes are still intact but, as they scroll down in the Playlist editor in Winamp, I notice the .mp3 extension gets dropped and the time (song length) isn't shown. The ID tag info does show correctly. The oddest part of this is that there's also a smattering (sorry to have to use a word like that!) of files that DO play. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to which ones are corrupted- some folders contain no playable tunes, some 1 or 2, some more than that. I tried some of the obvious things- checking the properties and file associations, trying them in other media players and I even tried some recovery software. No luck. They're still dead and I'm still mourning the loss of a year and a half's work. Any thoughts as to where to go on this? Email me for more details if you think it'll help or just post your questions here- Thanks in advance!



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Response Number 1
Name: Michael
Date: June 21, 2002 at 16:29:02 Pacific
Reply:

You should have backed up the files every now and then to a CD-R. I have squeezed over 300 MP3's on to one disc. I was galvanized into backing up the 600 or so MP3's after receiving a virus. If the virus had got the better of the AV program all would have been lost.
Sorry I can't be of help.


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Response Number 2
Name: Bob
Date: June 21, 2002 at 16:30:58 Pacific
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Don't you mean a year and a half's theft? I mean to download a few albums isn't such a big deal but that's got to be classified as grand theft audio. No wonder the RIAA is having a fit.

Now I suppose those could have all been free songs...lol, yeah right. Anyway maybe a virus corrupted them. Better run a scan.


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Response Number 3
Name: jubjub
Date: June 21, 2002 at 16:35:36 Pacific
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he mite have got lotsa free mp3s at mp3.com and thats not theft


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Response Number 4
Name: Kevin The Tech Dude
Date: June 21, 2002 at 16:47:55 Pacific
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Bob:

A lot of people will rip their own personal collection of CD's into MP3's so they can use them in MP3 players. I myself have ripped CD's I have purchased into MP3's so I can play them back with ease on my computer. I knew a DJ that had over 30,000 MP3's so he could easily call up any song at events he did. So don't assume this person has committed theft. Rember, innocent until proven guilty.

Laters,

KTTD


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Response Number 5
Name: wawadave
Date: June 21, 2002 at 20:31:25 Pacific
Reply:

hello
try an online scan at housecall anti virus
i think you have a vbs script virus and the reason some still play is its not done converting them all .there are some tools out there for reconverting them back to mp3
if its a new strane you cant reconvert them till some one comes out with a fix in witch case just burn these all to cd,s in the un playable stae and than reformat this drive and fdisk the mbr for the drive if and when you fined a tool to reconvert this vbs virus you can than take them from the cds be care full useing or handleing these files they can infect other drives back up every thing be for doing so.
have a nice day



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Response Number 6
Name: HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee
Date: June 21, 2002 at 22:40:18 Pacific
Reply:

I'll start with Bob's comment-
I don't believe that this forum was designed as a site to debate the issue of file-sharing but, since you "took it there"... Yes, roughly a 25% of the music I lost WAS from downloading but, just like the guy Kevin mentioned, I do some DJ work and had converted LEGALLY PURCHASED music to the mp3 format for the same reason- ease of use. For your information, Mr. High and Mighty, the majority of downloaded music isn't up to par with what can be played commercially. And, since you seem to be so up on the issue, maybe you'll be able to explain why record sales have gone up steadily over the years? Could it be that people, like me, use it as a learning tool? Since I started on Napster almost 2 years ago, my appreciation for a wider variety of music has grown considerably. It also helps so that when I AM in the music stores, I know EXACTLY what I want and don't have to spend hours and hours, previewing potential purchases. What it all comes down to is, I don't appreciate your comments and hope you'll refrain from making judgment calls on future posts. Again, this is a forum for the resolution of computer problems, not a debate on issues like file-sharing.
Now that I got that out of my system...
Yeah- I back up from time to time- something I'll be sure to do a lot more often now and I already scan for viruses daily. I appreciate the pointers though.
Wawadave- as I'm writing this, the drive I have the tunes on isn't connected but, as soon as I'm off, I'll be sure to check into what you mentioned. I should have thought of that- I went through that same problem in my first months on Napster. Thanks to all- except for Bob. (Sorry folks- His stance was as offensive as any I've seen here!)


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Response Number 7
Name: ShutMeUpOrDown:)
Date: June 21, 2002 at 23:06:16 Pacific
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HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee i pulled your other thread. Please keep it in this one. Thanks.

moderator @ computing.net


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Response Number 8
Name: Ronnie Ratt
Date: June 21, 2002 at 23:27:59 Pacific
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G'day Huke..., did any of these non-playable mp3's actually play at some stage or did you just download and store them without a quick listen.

My reason for asking is that I too have had 'corrupted' mp3's that my player wouldn't recognised the format straight after downloading. Solution: I converted them to *.wav and then they played, then I was able to convert them back to *.mp3 and they played as well.

Don't know why but it worked


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Response Number 9
Name: Mark
Date: June 22, 2002 at 02:00:04 Pacific
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I gotta admit I was a bit dissapointed to see this guy's post deteriorate into slander - where he got the files from isn't really the issue. I don't think there's many people who haven't used filesharing networks to help themselves to files that were not "paid for". However - he is referring to a year and a half's time sat at the 'puter, or a year anda half's phone charges or electric bills or whatever - it all amounts to a lot of time put in.

Still at least a couple of us gave him the likely causes and some possible answers which as far as I can see is what we aim to do here...


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Response Number 10
Name: HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee
Date: June 22, 2002 at 02:39:34 Pacific
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SMUOD- I kind of figured that I might get pulled- I guess I just wanted a better chance of having Bob, and others who might feel the need to spout off like he did, see that this is not the place for that sort of thing. I've got no problem keeping here...
Ronnie Ratt- I'm about as sure as I can be that all the files worked. I've never run into a problem with a disfunctional .mp3 where there wasn't an obvious sign of a virus- like the VBS thing that wawadave brought up. The converted tunes all worked- if any of the d/l'ed tunes didn't, I hadn't come across them. Until now, of course... :( As far as converting them to .wav? I guess that's something to look into. Thanks!
Mark- Thanks for the backup. Glad to see someone else knows what we're here for!


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Response Number 11
Name: Jimi_l
Date: June 22, 2002 at 04:49:10 Pacific
Reply:

Almost every instance of "funky" MP3 files I have ever run into was a virus.
I also suggest running a scan online AND using your own onboard software. Sometimes one will catch what the other will miss.

Jimi_l


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Response Number 12
Name: HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee
Date: June 22, 2002 at 06:01:03 Pacific
Reply:

Hope someone's still following this-
In my on-going search for the solution to this problem, I came across some information about formatting the Master Boot Record which, the best I can figure with my limited knowledge, might be where the problem lies on the hard drive in question.
First- Is it even possible to use the "fdisk /mbr" command on a WinME computer? Micro$oft's Q69912 does say that it's for use in MSDOS but also only references Win 95/98.
Second- I'm not exactly sure what it MEANS to format the MBR- I assume that it's like wiping out the "brain" for the drive but, to me, wiping out the brain would also render the "body" (all the files), dead and gone.
Third and lastly- Is this even a possible solution to all of this?
Once again, thanks in advance for any thoughts on this!


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Response Number 13
Name: Jimi_l
Date: June 22, 2002 at 06:30:18 Pacific
Reply:

The MBR has nothing to do with this at all(IMHO)
Corrupt files and the boot sequence are not related.
Dont mess with it or you may really be singing the blues.
Two words-
VIRUS SCAN.

http://housecall.antivirus.com/

Jimi_l


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Response Number 14
Name: HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee
Date: June 22, 2002 at 07:48:57 Pacific
Reply:

Jimi_1- I really do appreciate the explanation but, as I think I'd already stated, I've done all the obvious stuff- including the virus scan. What you say makes sense but, could you (or anyone) please try to explain why a number of sites I surfed to, had information about wiping and then recreating the MBR when all else fails?


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Response Number 15
Name: Jimi_l
Date: June 22, 2002 at 07:57:18 Pacific
Reply:

For the heck of it try this(or somthing like it)

http://www.mp3softz.com/windows/mp3editors/ashampoomp3checkconvert.htm

BTW I have no idea why anyone would reccomend re-writing the MBR to correct corrupted mp3 files.

Jimi_l


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Response Number 16
Name: Ger
Date: June 22, 2002 at 08:16:49 Pacific
Reply:

Since the anti-piracy police are worried about a few cds, I thought they might be interested in this article:
http://www.pcworldmalta.com/specials/MSPiracy/


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Response Number 17
Name: DSurfer
Date: June 22, 2002 at 09:19:41 Pacific
Reply:

HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee
Have you tried to connect your external hard drive on another computer and play those mp3's?
I would run a virus scan on it first while on the other computer.


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Response Number 18
Name: Roger The Shrubber
Date: June 22, 2002 at 09:32:03 Pacific
Reply:

HukedOnFonixWerx4Mee, along time ago when mp3's were just taking off there were programs called "cookers" which could correct problems with incorrectly encoded mp3's or damaged mp3's.

You might try a search on Google for such a program and run one of your corrupted mp3's through that to see if it can fix it. If you can't find any on Google, post back and I'll send you one.


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