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Name: joe
Date: April 3, 2002 at 22:18:52 Pacific
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hey I gots two computers hooked up to the net through a hub. My main computer connects to the net just fine.
The computer in question here cannot connect to the net but can still access the main comp (via ipx/spx). I dunno what to do. I've tried everything. I've tried:
changing user settings.
internet connection wizard.
editing tcp/ip settings.
clicking detect network settings on iexplore.

I dont know what happened to make everything stop working. It worked fine for me then someone else used it while I was doing something and POOF!!!!! It dont wanna work no more. So if anyone could help me out, It would be greatly appreciated.



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Response Number 1
Name: Rob
Date: April 4, 2002 at 06:56:33 Pacific
Reply:

I had this problem, and could see the other computers with 'My Network', but couldnt access the 'Network Neigbourhood' (but still could see their files), and couldnt access the internet.

This really is not the best advice, and i wouldnt reccomend taking it, unless your planning to do it anyway, but everything worked absolutly fine and connected first time after a did a clean format and reinstall of my computer. Bit much to do thou as im sure there's a better answer.
Just thought i'd say it worked after!


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Response Number 2
Name: wawadave81@hotmail.c
Date: April 4, 2002 at 07:59:43 Pacific
Reply:

hello
instead of the reformat at the drop of the hat option try these two pages i got and check out the net working forum as well.

Name: Juneau
Date: February 20, 2002 at 05:59:23 Pacific
Subject: Windows ME networking problem

Reply:
90% of the time this happens with Windows ME, this is the fix:
If you click on My Network Places, and then double-click on Entire Network
and get the error "Cannot browse network", then do the following steps:

1) On the computer that will be on most often, Click on Control Panel,
double-click the Network icon, double-click File and Printer Sharing for
Microsoft Networks, and where it says Browse Master, set it to enabled.
2) On all the other PC's on the LAN, set the above setting to DISABLED, so
that only ONE PC is running with Browse Master ENABLED.


Are you running any firewall software? Also, check this out:

Fix peer-to-peer network problems in Windows Millennium

1) The first rule is to follow each of these steps. Do not skip any for ANY
reason.

2) If you are connecting one computer directly to another (without using a
hub, switch or router) using a single cable, you MUST use a Cross-Over
cable. You can NOT use a regular Ethernet cable.

3) Download and install the networking patch (whether you think you need it
or not, it won't hurt anything) from Microsoft at
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q272/9/91.ASP

4) Go into your Control Panel and double-click on the Network icon. Make
sure you have the following items installed:

A) Client for Microsoft Networks
B) Your Network adapter
C) TCP/IP
D) IPX/SPX
E) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

5) Double-click on Client for Microsoft Networks. Make sure "Log on to
Windows NT domain" does NOT have a check in the box next to it. Select
"Logon and restore network connections". Click OK.

6) Double-click on your network adapter, and click the BINDINGS tab. Make
sure both TCP/IP and IPX/SPX are listed and both are CHECKED. Click OK.

7) Double click on TCP/IP, and click on the tab that says BINDINGS and
un-check File and Printer Sharing. Click on the tab that says ADVANCED, and
where it says Allow Binding to ATM, make sure the value is NO. Ensure there
is a check in the box at the bottom of the window that says "Set this
protocol to be the default protocol". Click OK.

8) Double-click on IPX/SPX and, on the NetBIOS tab, make sure it is
UN-checked where it says "I want to enable NetBIOS over IPX/SPX". Click on
the Bindings tab and make sure that Client for Microsoft Networks and File
and printer sharing BOTH ARE checked. Then click OK.

9) Double-click on File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks. Click
once on Browse Master and make sure it's value is set to Automatic. Click
once on LM Announce and make sure it's value is set to NO. Click OK.

10) Below the ADD button, you'll see a line that says "Primary Network
Logon", click the down arrow in the window below that and select "Windows
Logon".

11) Below that is a button that says "File and Print Sharing.", click it
once. Make sure that "I want to be able to give others access to my files"
is checked and "I want to be able to allow others to print to my printer(s)"
is also checked. Click OK.
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2) Click on the IDENTIFICATION tab and change your workgroup name to
WORKGROUP (please use all capitol letters, the workgroup name can be
case-sensitive on some PCs).

13) Click on the Access Control tab and make sure that Share-level access
control IS selected.

14) After you have re-booted, make sure that you select what resources you
want to share on each PC. To share the C: drive, double-click the My
Computer icon, Right click on the C: drive, click on the 'Sharing' tab and
select SHARED AS and then click OK. Repeat this process for sharing Printers
(right click on the printer you want to share), or individual directories
(right click on the yellow folder you wish to share). Optional password
protection can be found here as well.

15) Make sure you do steps 2 through 12 on all Win95 and Win98 PC's on your
network as well.

16) When you re-boot, you should be able to double-click My Network Place,
then Double-click Entire Network and click VIEW THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THIS
FOLDER (on the left side of the window). If the left side says HIDE THE
CONTENTS OF THIS FOLDER, then you did it right. You should see the name
WORKGROUP here, this should NOT be an empty window.

17) Click Tools, click Folder Options and click on the View tab. Make sure
that 'Automatically search for network folders and printers' IS checked. If
it is not, select it and click Apply. Next, click OK.

18) Close all windows.

19) Click Start, click Run and type REGEDIT and hit enter.

20) Click the "+" symbol next to Hkey_Current_User, click the "+" symbol
next to Software, click the "+" symbol next to Microsoft, click the "+"
symbol next to Windows, click the "+" symbol next to Current Version, click
the "+" symbol next to Explorer, click the "+" symbol next to NetCrawl and
then click on the yellow folder next to Printers.

21) Select each item listed in the window to the right, by clicking once on
it, and then press the delete button. DO NOT REMOVE THE FIRST ITEM LABELED
"(DEFAULT) Value Not Set". Repeat this process until the window on the
right is empty except for "(Default) value not set".

22) Next, just below the yellow 'Printers' folder, you should see another
yellow folder labeled "Shares", click once on the yellow folder.

23) Repeat step 19.

24) Click Registry (at the top of the window) and Click Exit.

25) Re-boot the PC.

26) The network should now work. I have tried this method with Intel
Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium III, AMD k6-2, k6-3 and Athlon Thunderbird
processors all combined on the same network running Windows ME, Windows 98se
and a mix and match of network cards from Netgear, Dlink, SMC, Realtek,
LinkSys, Soho, and Xircom and this process worked flawlessly so that all of
the above computers running different versions of windows, having different
hardware, on a peer-to-peer network could see each other just fine.

27) If you click on My Network Places, and then double-click on Entire
Network and get the error "Cannot browse network", then do the following
steps:

28) On the computer that will be on most often, Click on Control Panel,
double-click the Network icon, double-click File and Printer Sharing for
Microsoft Networks, and where it says Browse Master, set it to enabled.

29) On all the other PC's on the LAN, set the above setting to DISABLED, so
that only ONE PC is running with Browse Master ENABLED.

30) If you are getting a SCRIPT ERROR when you double-click My Network
Places, then you must have Tweak UI installed and configured it to replace
the first icon that appears on the screen. Change this option back to it's
default setting, which should be My Documents.

31) If you cannot see the other computers in the network neighborhood, but
you can do a Search and find them (and you are able to ping them) try this:
The problem might be that during the set up of Home Networking Wizard,
Microsoft somehow names your Workgroup to be "Mshome" (the default
value) EVEN THOUGH you have specified your own name. Here is the fix:

- Start -> Run -> regedit
- Find "Mshome" (which should be in My
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP)
- Right click on Workgroup (on the right hand panel) -> Modify
- Change the "Value Data" to whatever your Workgroup Name is.

If you are experiencing open windows of networked resources, this can be
caused by Norton Internet Security software. Please see this link for more
info:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/docid/2000040412261536&src=w
Also, you can delete the offending drive letters in the contents of this
registry setting. It should help:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPo
ints\_WantUI
(please note: the last part of the key may have a different name on your PC,
but whatever that first yellow folder is called, check it's contents. Remove
the drive letters you don't want to see. And please remember to back up your
registry before modifying it!)

32) If this process does not work for you, make sure you have loaded the
latest drivers for your network card, make sure your network settings are
exactly as I described above to the last detail, try changing the slot the
network card is plugged into on the motherboard, make sure your cables are
good, make sure your hub or switch or router is working, and replace your
network card as a last resort.
33) As a side note: The Netgear FA310tx PCI Network Interface Card is
detected by Windows ME as an LNE card, which will not work properly. As long
as this card is plugged into your LAN, no computers will be able to browse
the network until you install the driver from Netgear for their card.

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The following article comes highly recommended.

37 steps to fixing peer-to-peer network problems in Windows Millennium by
Carey Holzman

1) The first rule is to follow each of these steps. Do not skip any for ANY
reason.
2) If you are connecting one computer directly to another (without using a
hub, switch or router) using a single cable, you MUST use a Cross-Over
cable. You CANNOT use a regular Ethernet cable.
3) For all Windows ME PCs, download and install the networking patch
(whether you think you need it or not, it won't hurt anything) from
Microsoft at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q272/9/91.ASP
4) Go into your Control Panel and double-click on the Network icon. Make
sure you have the following items installed:

A) Client for Microsoft Networks
B) Your Network adapter
C) TCP/IP
D) IPX/SPX
E) File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

5) Double-click on Client for Microsoft Networks. Make sure "Log on to
Windows NT domain" does NOT have a check in the box next to it. Select
"Logon and restore network connections". Click OK.
6) Double-click on your network adapter, and click the BINDINGS tab. Make
sure both TCP/IP and IPX/SPX are listed and both are CHECKED. Click OK.
7) Double click on TCP/IP, and click on the tab that says BINDINGS and
un-check File and Printer Sharing. Click on the tab that says ADVANCED, and
where it says Allow Binding to ATM, make sure the value is NO. Ensure there
is a check in the box at the bottom of the window that says "Set this
protocol to be the default protocol". Click OK.
8) Double-click on IPX/SPX and, on the NetBIOS tab, make sure it is
UN-checked where it says "I want to enable NetBIOS over IPX/SPX". Click on
the Bindings tab and make sure that Client for Microsoft Networks and File
and printer sharing BOTH ARE checked. Then click OK.
9) Double-click on File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks. Click
once on Browse Master and make sure its value is set to Automatic. Click
once on LM Announce and make sure its value is set to NO. Click OK.
10) Below the ADD button, you'll see a line that says "Primary Network
Logon", click the down arrow in the window below that and select "Windows
Logon".
11) Below that is a button that says "File and Print Sharing.", click it
once. Make sure that "I want to be able to give others access to my files"
is checked and "I want to be able to allow others to print to my printer(s)"
is also checked. Click OK.
12) Click on the IDENTIFICATION tab and change your workgroup name to
WORKGROUP (please use all capitol letters, the workgroup name can be
case-sensitive on some PCs).
13) Click on the Access Control tab and make sure that Share-level access
control IS selected.
14) After you have re-booted, make sure that you select what resources you
want to share on each PC. To share the C: drive, double-click the My
Computer icon, Right click on the C: drive, click on the 'Sharing' tab and
select SHARED AS and then click OK. Repeat this process for sharing Printers
(right click on the printer you want to share), or individual directories
(right click on the yellow folder you wish to share). Optional password
protection can be found here as well.
15) Make sure you do steps 4 through 14 on all Win95 and Win98 PC's on your
network as well.
16) When you re-boot, you should be able to double-click My Network Place,
then Double-click Entire Network and click VIEW THE ENTIRE CONTENTS OF THIS
FOLDER (on the left side of the window). If the left side says HIDE THE
CONTENTS OF THIS FOLDER, then you did it right. You should see the name
WORKGROUP here, this should NOT be an empty window.
17) Click Tools, click Folder Options and click on the View tab. Make sure
that 'Automatically search for network folders and printers' IS checked. If
it is not, select it and click Apply. Next, click OK.
18) Close all windows.
19) Click Start, click Run and type REGEDIT and hit enter.
20) Click the "+" symbol next to Hkey_Current_User, click the "+" symbol
next to Software, click the "+" symbol next to Microsoft, click the "+"
symbol next to Windows, click the "+" symbol next to Current Version, click
the "+" symbol next to Explorer, click the "+" symbol next to NetCrawl and
then click on the yellow folder next to Printers.
21) Select each item listed in the window to the right, by clicking once on
it, and then press the delete button. DO NOT REMOVE THE FIRST ITEM LABELED
"(DEFAULT) Value Not Set". Repeat this process until the window on the
right is empty except for "(Default) value not set".
22) Next, just below the yellow 'Printers' folder, you should see another
yellow folder labeled "Shares", click once on the yellow folder.
23) Repeat step 21.
24) Click Registry (at the top of the window) and Click Exit.
25) Re-boot the PC.
26) The network should now work. I have tried this method with Intel
Pentium, Pentium II, Pentium III, AMD k6-2, k6-3 and Athlon Thunderbird
processors all combined on the same network running Windows ME, Windows 98se
and a mix and match of network cards from Netgear, Dlink, SMC, Realtek,
LinkSys, Soho, and Xircom and this process worked flawlessly so that all of
the above computers running different versions of windows, having different
hardware, on a peer-to-peer network could see each other just fine.
27) If you click on My Network Places, and then double-click on Entire
Network and get the error "Cannot browse network", then do the following
steps:
28) On the computer that will be on most often, Click on Control Panel,
double-click the Network icon, double-click File and Printer Sharing for
Microsoft Networks, and where it says Browse Master, set it to enabled.
29) On all the other PC's on the LAN, set the above setting to DISABLED, so
that only ONE PC is running with Browse Master ENABLED.
30) If you are getting a SCRIPT ERROR when you double-click My Network
Places, then you must have Tweak UI installed and configured it to replace
the first icon that appears on the screen. Change this option back to it's
default setting, which should be My Documents.
31) If you cannot see the other computers in the network neighborhood, but
you can do a Search and find them (and you are able to ping them) try this:
The problem might be that during the set up of Home Networking Wizard,
Microsoft somehow names your Workgroup to be "Mshome" (the default
value) EVEN THOUGH you have specified your own name. Here is the fix:

- Start -> Run -> regedit
- Find "Mshome" (which should be in My
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP)
- Right click on Workgroup (on the right hand panel) -> Modify
- Change the "Value Data" to whatever your Workgroup Name is.

32) If this process does not work for you, make sure you have loaded the
latest drivers for your network card, make sure your network settings are
exactly as I described above to the last detail, try changing the slot the
network card is plugged into on the motherboard, make sure your cables are
good, make sure your hub or switch or router is working, and replace your
network card as a last resort.
33) As a side note: The Netgear FA310tx PCI Network Interface Card is
detected by Windows ME as an LNE card, which will not work properly. As long
as this card is plugged into your LAN, no computers will be able to browse
the network until you install the driver from Netgear for their card.
34) If NetBEUI and IPX/SPX are not listed as available protocols:
35) It seems that something in the C:\Backup\MB directory prevents you from
seeing most of the contents of the Network Properties \ Add button. When the
directory was renamed (to anything), create a blank folder named MB,
restart, then you could access NetBEUI and IPX/SPX, but first the adapter
hardware needed to be recognized. If this does not occur automatically ,
you will need to reinstall the adapter first.
36) If the above step does not work for you, try this instead: Click Start,
click Run, type MSCONFIG (hit enter), click the button labeled "Extract
File." For the name of the file you want to restore, type NETBW.INF. Restore
from your Windows Millennium CD (if your CD is your D: drive, type:
D:\WIN9X). Save File In: C:\WINDOWS. Once the file is restored, repeat this
process with NETTRANS.INF, then back in your network properties, click Add,
click Protocol, click Add, click the Have Disk button, click the Browse
button, go to C:\Windows and on the left you should see NETTRANS.INF, click
once on it and click OK. NetBEUI should now be available as a protocol
option in your network properties.
37) If you are experiencing open windows of networked resources, this can be
caused by Norton Internet Security software. Please see this link for more
info:

http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nip.nsf/docid/2000040412261536&src=w
Also, you can delete the offending drive letters in the contents of this
registry setting. It should help:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPo
ints\_WantUI
(please note: the last part of the key may have a different name on your PC,
but whatever that first yellow folder is called, check it's contents. Remove
the drive letters you don't want to see. And please remember to back up your
registry before modifying it!)

have a nice day hope this gives you some options


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Response Number 3
Name: Also
Date: April 4, 2002 at 14:09:25 Pacific
Reply:

Why not just use a 3rd party proxy server for internet sharing? They are a LOT more reliable than ICS. pppShare lite is a good one, also there is one at the anologueX website.


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Response Number 4
Name: kooby
Date: April 5, 2002 at 01:41:10 Pacific
Reply:

I think we have all interpretted this wrong. what type of net connection do u use?


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Response Number 5
Name: Joe
Date: April 7, 2002 at 13:06:42 Pacific
Reply:

Both comps are connected to a HUB. A broadband connection is plugged into the uplink port of the HUB.


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Response Number 6
Name: Griffin
Date: June 25, 2002 at 22:45:54 Pacific
Reply:

ahh i see the problem, i dont know if you can use a hub to connect both computers to the internet, i tried and could only get one computer to connect at a time, the best thing for you to do would be to ditch the hub and invest in a router, i went with the linksys router, works just like a hub with the added feature of a firewall, i think you can get the router for about 79 bucks, or u could get another nic and go about the proxy server way.
But as with the hub (not sure on this) but i think the way it communicates that it will on let one computer on at a time, and i found it was the either the first computer to boot up or the one in the number 1 port.


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