Broadband internet with wired modem on WinME

March 22, 2011 at 03:00:36
Specs: Windows ME

I have a Sagem Fast 800 E3 wired modem and I have been trying to get this to connect to my ISP broadband.

Before swithching ISP, this was working as my old ISP have a dail up access and connection was easy by running the installation CD supplied by the ISP. My new ISP does not have a dial up broadband.

After manual installing the modem, it is works, but it can't connect to the remote computer (my ISP). I know my login setting to my broadband connection is correct. I wondered it I need to make adjustments to my modem setting before it can connect to my ISP.

On my other laptop, I was able to use a different wired Speedtouch modem to get it connected to my ISP, but after a bit of "tweaking" (ie using bridging option, VCL at 0.101 which was not in the option but can over-ride the options given) during its installation. But this Speedtouch modem does not work with ME.

What are the setting options I need to select during the installation of the Sagem installation ? The options given on installing Speedtouch are not present on this modem.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.


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#1
March 23, 2011 at 15:17:51

"I have a Sagem Fast 800 E3 wired modem and I have been trying to get this to connect to my ISP broadband"

The Sagem F@st 800 E3 is a DSL modem. All you need to do is connect the phone line (without a filter) to the modem, connect the modem to the PC using a USB cable, install the modem driver/software, logon using the desktop icon, then start surfing the internet.

http://support.sagemcom.com/site/mo...

"My new ISP does not have a dial up broadband"

Is that like "jumbo shrimp"? lol. Dial-up is not broadband. If by "dial up broadband" you mean DSL, how did you plan on using an DSL modem with no "dial up broadband" subscription?


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#2
March 24, 2011 at 06:27:10

The Sagem F@st 800 E3 is a DSL modem. All you need to do is connect the phone line (without a filter) to the modem, connect the modem to the PC using a USB cable, install the modem driver/software, logon using the desktop icon, then start surfing the internet

Don't work that way with the phone line over here ( I assume you are not in the UK ??). We even need the filter to connect the standard telephone to it. They must have done something to the phone line at the exchange end. That's my thinking, anyway. Could be wrong. But without the filter, the phone is very noisy.

Also, a phone number is needed to connect to the ISP. I can see the Sagem working when installed. But when I click on the connection tab after setting up the password, etc, it can't make a connection and came back with a message that it cant connect to the remote computer.

This is the same message I get when I used the SpeedTouch 330 with my other computer running XP until I chaged the VCL number, etc. But the Sagem does not ask for the same setting parameter.

Dial-up is not broadband
I wonder...(??). I'm not into this. But it is a lot faster in speed than the conventional dial up of the past years. The ISP gives (usually) a 3 digit and a dot number eg 0.35 as the dialup number. Is DSL and ADSL the same and are these the same as the dial up you are referring to ?


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#3
March 25, 2011 at 21:37:22

I'm not from the UK, but I believe DSL technology is basically the same no matter where you are. The internet connection is thru a standard copper telephone line but it's at a much higher frequency than is required for voice transmission. The filters that are installed on the phone line are "frequency filters". Their purpose is to block the DSL high frequencies so that the phones (which require much lower frequencies) can still be used. The filters are for phones ONLY. If you have a filter on the line that's connected to the DSL modem, that's your problem - it's blocking the high frequencies needed for DSL.

Dial-up uses the same low frequencies as voice & is limited to 56Kb/sec, but it generally runs slower than that. And as the name implies, you have to "dial up" to get your internet connection.

DSL is "always on", no dialing is required. The connection speed varies depending on which service package you signed up for. My original DSL hookup was only 768Kb/sec - that's still approx 15x faster than dial-up. I then had it bumped up to 3Mb/sec.

ADSL is a form of DSL. The "A" is for Asymmetric & means that the downoad speeds are much faster than the upload speeds. With SDSL ("S" is for Symmetric) both the upload & download speeds are the same.

http://www.isp-reviews.org/dialup_d...


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#4
March 26, 2011 at 15:34:23

Thanks for your clear and conscise explaination. It all makes sense. Many thanks.

Sadly and happily also, I won't have a chance to test teh connection as you suggested becasue before your post here, while I was searching for somethig else on the internet, I accidently came across a website that gave an update of the Sagem driver that works. But I will keep this in mind when I am next faced with similar suggestion. Once again, thank you so much for the valuable knowledge in this area.

For those who are interested or is trying to do the same as I what I am doing, the driver site is

http://www.downloadsource.net/396/S...

Download the driver (version 4.8 for all Windows), unzip it and click on the setup to install it. Select the only setting page in the install wizard process. For my ISP, selecting the option Bridging LLC 1/101 works for both this wired Sagem Fast 800 modem as well as the Thompson SpeedTouch 330 modem driver setting. This is the only driver version I know of in my previous search so far that offers the driver type setting option. Good luck !!


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