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Name: Chancer
Date: July 12, 2002 at 06:31:51 Pacific
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I don’t know whether any of you have been reading about these issues, but there are things stirring in the US that could have bad consequences for PC users everywhere, and I haven’t seen anyone but IT journalists talking about it so far.

1. The music industry’s alternatives to Napster are coming online. Be careful, because with some alternative services:

You never own the tracks in the way you do a CD
You can only play them as long as you are a member (if you unsubscribe your downloads won’t play anymore)
Terms and conditions can be altered at some future date and if you don’t agree to them, you can kiss “your” collection goodbye.
You have to renew the licence for EACH track EACH month via the internet
You only have permission to play tracks on two computers, both of which need to have the relevant software installed (which rules out your MP3 player)

2. Sen. Hollings and his friends in the music/studio industries are attempting to introduce a bill which will make it illegal to manufacture PCs with the ability to copy files. To get a PC that can copy you will need a special license and you will be grilled about what you want it for (but hey, if you want to buy an assault rifle, just promise the storekeeper you won’t shoot anyone with it OK?)

And they are all looking into ways of giving all types of electronically recorded media a limited lifespan either in number of plays or periods of time - you’ll end up never owning anything you pay for. Its like the automobile manufacturers designing a car where the wheels fall of after 5,000 miles or 6 months - they wouldn’t be allowed to get away with it so why should anyone else?

3. I’ll state up front that like Microsoft products, but they are spearheading the most sinister development of the lot!

Under the guise of providing more secure PC operations Microsoft and other manufacturers are working to introduce chips that will run your computer - check out stories on Microsoft’s “Palladium” technology. They will decide what software and hardware you can use, impose Digital Rights Management without having to tell you, report back who knows what kind of information about your surfing habits and can even read and access your personal files!

It was US users who started the fight which made Intel back down on their plans for the P3 chip, and it will be down to them to start the fight against these latest attacks on our freedom.

So, if you don’t want the day to come when you switch on your PC and only have access to what they want you to have (and paying each time for the privilege) - start bitching now



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Response Number 1
Name: shanna
Date: July 12, 2002 at 06:58:36 Pacific
Reply:

i think that is rediculous! (i know my spelling stinks) but still, paying for something that you will lose ability to enjoy? it's not like they are ice cream cones that you pay for and eat....HOW RUDE


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Response Number 2
Name: dennisl
Date: July 12, 2002 at 08:43:15 Pacific
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We get plenty of looney bills over here in the UK as well - fortunately not to many convert into new laws.

If only they'd concentrate on more important issues!

Rgds

Dennis


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Response Number 3
Name: Mark
Date: July 12, 2002 at 08:44:34 Pacific
Reply:

Believe me that not beaing ably to listen to
music files when you want is just the tip of
the iceberg as far as Palladium and DRM tech
goes. Joe Homeuser is going to be screwed
royally if this ever takes off. MS is
slowly introducing this already, ie product
activation, media player user
identification, secure(crippled) file
formats (wma), etc. Personally I believe
that the US DoJ has its hands so full with
corporate fraud they aren't seeing the
threat posed by MS and which Intel and AMD
have plans to implement circuits to support
DRM. It's not like they have a choice as MS
has become such a big monster but they are
not fighting it either. When the new OS
from MS comes out it will require new
hardware support as well. Once someone uses
this tech then anybody not using it will not
be able to share info with that person, so
they then must 'upgrade' to be able to do
so. This is wher Intel and AMD start
frothing at the mouth because that would
cause an upswing in the PC market and put
money in their pockets. Now know this that
simply having the ability or compatibility
to share info does not mean that you will be
able to. DRM dictates that your info must
be 'verified' by some remote server as being
elligible to be shared or even used on your
own PC (yes your documents may not open and
will be lost, your music, pictures, videos
may no longer open etc) You get the idea.
This is very dangerous ground they are
treading and there is nothing positive about
it for consumers.


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Response Number 4
Name: Jennifer
Date: July 12, 2002 at 08:46:13 Pacific
Reply:

Here's a thought; buy the CD! :)


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Response Number 5
Name: Patrick
Date: July 12, 2002 at 08:57:49 Pacific
Reply:

The new technology that Sony developed for preventing the copying of CD's was defeated by a felt-tip marker. Money alone will never defeat ingenuity. If it does, there's always Linux.


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Response Number 6
Name: Dane
Date: July 12, 2002 at 09:12:30 Pacific
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Here in Switzerland we pay a certain "fee" for every empty cassette we buy in shops. This was demanded and pushed through by SUISA (musicians rights and licencing organisation). They don't care whether you're going to record the sound of your new sports car or a speech you're going to make. You pay the fee no matter what.
The US musicians' rights and licencing organisation closed down and threatened to sue (for millions of dollars) a friend of mine who ran the world's largest online source of song lyrics (no music, no mp3s just lyrics). Apparently they wanted his files and by threatening to sue this young man, who had spent years typing in all the lyrics they managed to get them. The police - at the wishes of the US organisation via SUISA confiscated all his equipment including:
- home CD players
- His entire collection of (purchased !!) music CDs
- His computers
- All his software
- Every floppy disk they could find
- Every Jaz disk they could find
- His second computer which acted as a server on which he hosted several websites for other people (me included!!)

He got *most* of his stuff back, and the court threw the case out, although he still had to pay the equivalent of $15,000 "costs" to the US organisation for "breach of copyright".
This is only the first step. Fairplay in music is one thing, but this is going too far.
Dane


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Response Number 7
Name: William Gates
Date: July 12, 2002 at 09:20:02 Pacific
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Downloading free(not paid for) music is the same as pirate(not paid for) software.

Jennifer is on the right track. Just buy the CD and stop whining about it.


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Response Number 8
Name: Don
Date: July 12, 2002 at 09:41:35 Pacific
Reply:

the only people who lose money from free downloaded music is the white shirt music executives...not the musicians...and quite frankly I like the idea of helping the white shirts make less money, as they have enough anyway...

and as for software companies...well if they charged a fair price the market for illicit bootlegs would draw back some...and companies like Microsoft have made much more than their fair share of profits


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Response Number 9
Name: JohnT
Date: July 12, 2002 at 10:09:28 Pacific
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Some great insights regarding the future trends of the PC and our freedoms. I think Jennifer and William Gates missed the point, Of course piracy is and issue based upon dollars and most of us will pay for that CD and or Software the majority of the world believes a decent price for a decent product. The complaint side is valid that Industry is moving forward to more restrictive measures yet extracting money from us for products we will not own, only rent. I believe what they say. Microsoft XP with the license aspect for stand alone computer use is a first step control, and greed issue for more copies sold bigger profit. Please note that windows 98 is still being sold for full Market value. Moving along to music WMP would not allow me to play music I had put on my computer from my owned CD's because in version 7.1 it stated I did not have the license. I tried (legally) in vain to correct this, and I could never get WMP to work until I dumped it reformatted my cpu and did a fresh install. It has not come back on, but it is and indicator of what is yet to come. The usual greedy businesses, RIAA MPIAA Microsoft, WB, Sony, etc all digging into your wallet yet providing quasi-lousy material with inflated prices, and of course more control. Freedom is fragile, and all should be vigiliant. As someone who works within Government I may work for them, but I certainly do not trust them.


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Response Number 10
Name: Steve W
Date: July 12, 2002 at 10:11:50 Pacific
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Jennifer and William - no one is talking about piracy here.

They're "whining" about an infringement of their rights/privacy. When I pay for something (as long as I'm not redistributing it) I expect to be able to use it in any way I see fit.

Here's a thought William; Read the posts properly

(I'll assume Jennifer's tongue may have been in her cheek though!)


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Response Number 11
Name: David I
Date: July 12, 2002 at 10:18:06 Pacific
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Jennifer and William ...

Go to http://forum.deviantart.com/403142 and see if you then agree with what Microsoft are planning.


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Response Number 12
Name: sekirt
Date: July 12, 2002 at 19:20:00 Pacific
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They - the music companies, artists, etc; have never LOST a dime on me. Anything I download - I would never buy anyway. The only reason I downloaded was because they were free. Change that and I won't download either. I can live without high prices.

I am a consumer first. Nobody should get as rich as Bill Gates - the fact he is, proves he charged too much.

As to the software companies making software call home and report everything - I will use whatever alternatives there are, before I ever give in to that. I already disable what I can, that I consider invasion of my privacy.


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