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Wont Start Some Times

Original Message
Name: rwl
Date: November 3, 2006 at 09:55:34 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
OS: W98se
CPU/Ram: Pent II /256
Model/Manufacturer: Think Pad 770x
Comment:
This is weird. Some times When I turn the computer on nothing happing s. But the speaker icon blinks and after turning on and off a bunch of times after a wile it will turn again.And it will freeze up and do it again. What can I do?

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Response Number 1
Name: Derek
Date: November 3, 2006 at 11:54:49 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
This leaves me a bit confused. If nothing happens when you turn the computer on, then how can the speaker icon blink?

Do you mean the speaker icon in the system tray next to the clock or do you mean the light on the speaker?

DerekW


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Response Number 2
Name: Rimfire
Date: November 3, 2006 at 13:29:21 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Derek, the IBM Thinkpad is a laptop. I think the OP is referring to LED indicators.

This is the sort of behavior you would expect when trying to boot with a flat battery. The suspect components are the AC adaptor, the battery or the charging circuit. I would first see if another AC adaptor fixes the problem. Next I would try another battery or even removing the battery and running directly off the adaptor. If the problem is in the charging circuit, it will be cheaper to get a shiny new laptop than to repair the one you have.


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Response Number 3
Name: Derek
Date: November 3, 2006 at 16:13:32 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Ooops, thx Rimfire for pulling my brain back on sync. Yes it does clearly say ThinkPad, I obviously forgot to look. I'll take 100 lines LOL.


DerekW


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Response Number 4
Name: rwl
Date: November 3, 2006 at 16:47:19 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Is there a trick to remove the battery? It does not want to come out easy. And I don't want to force it.

Thanks for the help.


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Response Number 5
Name: Rimfire
Date: November 4, 2006 at 01:43:09 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
On laptops there are often 2 lock mechanisms. One will be marked with a locked padlock / open padlock, the other will be a spring loaded release catch. Obviously the lock mechanism has to be in the unlocked position when you release the catch. With both open, you should be able to slide the battery out.

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Response Number 6
Name: rwl
Date: November 6, 2006 at 10:59:50 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
HELP still freezing up.

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Response Number 7
Name: Derek
Date: November 6, 2006 at 11:56:54 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Sure, but have you done anything which you hoped might help (such as that given in #2)?

DerekW


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Response Number 8
Name: rwl
Date: November 14, 2006 at 08:04:26 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Yes all check out ok. battery is old but holds charge for around 10 mi. Still freezing up and hard to restart.

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Response Number 9
Name: Derek
Date: November 14, 2006 at 11:35:37 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
10 mins sounds like that battery has about had it (assuming it's charging). Sometime discharging/recharging a dud battery can eventually bring it back to life but usually it needs replacing.

DerekW


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Response Number 10
Name: rwl
Date: November 16, 2006 at 07:55:56 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Thanks

This is a great laptop for how old it is every thing works good for what I use it for. I removed the battery and did the scanreg/fix and it didn't freeze for about a week or more and I thought it was ok then it froze up again. I really don't want to spend a $100. or more on a battery. Is there any tricks I can do to buy me some time before it goes into to the junk pile .


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Response Number 11
Name: Derek
Date: November 16, 2006 at 10:21:35 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Can't think of anything except discharging/recharging and even that is a bit hopeful.

DerekW


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Response Number 12
Name: Rimfire
Date: November 16, 2006 at 12:10:30 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
A computer freezing can be caused by both hardware and software. When software is involved, the program causing the problem should be removed and reinstalled.

Two common hardware causes of freezing are the CPU overheating and poor connections to the RAM. Given your question about removing the battery, I don't think you should try reseating the ram or renewing the thermal paste without the assistance of somebody experienced in laptop repairs.


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Response Number 13
Name: Derek
Date: November 16, 2006 at 13:10:17 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Re my #11 which was centered around your battery comments.

Having re-read your #10, if you are saying that it ran OK for a week using mains (no battery) then maybe the whole battery thing is a red herring. It may not be too good but that's another story.

As Rimfire implies there could be a host of possibilites which cause the general symptoms you describe (software or hardware). RAM or it's connections are possibilities but Laptops are not the easiest of beasts when it comes to tackling suspected hardware problems.

DerekW


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Response Number 14
Name: rwl
Date: November 16, 2006 at 13:38:47 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
I think the problem may be the Signal processors "conflict" code 15?

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Response Number 15
Name: Rimfire
Date: November 16, 2006 at 15:50:48 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
I've never herd of a DSP being used in a laptop. Could you record the exact error message?

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Response Number 16
Name: rwl
Date: November 16, 2006 at 17:20:38 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
That is the message. This device is causing resource conflict code 15.IBM.

It froze while typing this message.


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Response Number 17
Name: rwl
Date: November 16, 2006 at 17:22:12 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
Just code 15 not. IBM

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Response Number 18
Name: Rimfire
Date: November 17, 2006 at 16:45:54 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
This sounds like the error message in device manager when piece of hardware in not working properly. Code 15 means it is sharing resources with another device which windows can't deal with. That is, more than 1 devices are identifying themselves in the same way. This can upset the CPU to the point where it will throw a hissy fit!

Go to device manager and look for any devices flagged with a red or yellow icon. Delete all of these and any entries refering to the same device as the ones flagged. That is, if your modem appears twice and one of them is flagged, delete both.

After this is done, reboot the computer. Windows should find the deleted devices and reinstall them. Have the windows CD ahndy as you may be asked for it during this process.


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Response Number 19
Name: rwl
Date: December 1, 2006 at 13:21:30 Pacific
Subject: Wont Start Some Times
Reply: (edit)
I think that did it.Thanks!

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