Ok - seems to be a set of Mats---a drivers at Driverguide - you'd have to register to download - or maybe login with: drivers all (if that still works) Another download source would be Jargon's Driver Museum - 58x_95.zip Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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... actually that should be 58x_dos.zip Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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Can you please give me instructions on how I would go about installing the things you just gave me or the steps rather.

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Ok, well the one from Jargon's is a self extracting file - you would run it from DOS or Win9x and it will extract the driver files and their installer along with some cryptic instructions into whatever folder its in. Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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What would I do after I install these into a folder?

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You have to unzip it first though. You may be better off starting your machine with the bootdisk (without CD support), and make the hard drive bootable by entering: sys c: then after that, copy the extracted file to that hard drive and run it from a folder there. Then you'd run its installer (install.exe). After all is done, you'd have a bootable hard drive which would load the CD drivers and allow you to run Win98 setup Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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So basically I would follow the instructions you have, but would I just type D: right after that or do I have to reboot the computer and install from the CD-ROM have the computer has rebooted. Also when the CD-ROM works what do I set the bios back to? Are you sure that I don't have to edit any files like auto..bat (dont remember the name) or config.sys?

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jboy, Another gem, driver museum. Yeh, woulda been much better to call this no driver load. I don't know which boot disk has which drivers, but the 98 startup made in the control panel has bunches. It would be surprising if none of them worked. I've been using AOATAPI.sys for years and haven't encountered an IDE CD that it would not support. Of course because I just said that, tomorrow I'll probably run into a drive that won't buy it. ;)

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Right, well, if I'm not mistaken the installer will make those entries for you, but it needs to run from the machine with the CD drive. As well, from the instructions, it seems to be one of the ones that has to assign additional Port & Interrupt parameters. Sure, you could edit the autoexec.bat & config.sys on the boot disk, and copy the files to the floppy yourself but that might be more of a job than you'd imagined, if you're new to DOS. Once you unzip 58x_dos.zip you'll have 58x_dos.exe. Running that file will unpack the installer, drivers & instructions. Once you run install.exe it should create or setup config.sys for you - I'm not sure since I can't run it from here. You might need to copy over mscdex.exe from the boot floppy and have it load from autoexec.bat. Mechanix - yeah, usually it's not quite this complicated, but that's an older CD drive. I've seen a few that had to have the extra parameters just right. The installer takes care of it - you can do it manually if you know the values. Maybe a 'standard' 98 disk would do the job better than the generic CD driver used by bootdisk.com Got to call it a day, it's 4:00 am here, someone should be able to step in. Happy New Year Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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Hi firespark, jboy, Mechanix2Go, Here is the driver you need that is already unzipped. Download load it and save it to a floppy. As Jboy, I would start the computer using your Win98 Bootdisk and select without CDROM Support. When it gets to the A:\> type sys c: and press [ENTER]. Remove the Win98 Bootdisk and insert the one with the CDROM drivers. At A:\> type 58x_dos and press [Enter]. Remove the floppy and restart the computer. You will now be taken to a C:\> prompt. Insert the Win98 CD. At C:\> type D: and press [Enter] At D:\> type setup and press [Enter] Windows should now begin installing. Best Regards, Mesich

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Mesich, Not exactly. The 58x_dos.exe is a self-extracting LHA archive. When it's run it extracts these files: 01-09-1998 02:04 7,628 README.TXT 27-07-1998 02:04 13,545 ATAPIMGR.SYS 08-07-1998 01:32 203 INSTALL.DAT 26-06-1998 01:32 110,835 INSTALL.exe 31-07-1997 01:21 12,981 SR_ASPI.SYS 20-11-1996 01:10 13,813 WDCTRL_0.386 ::============== FireSpark, The next challenge is to get the driver(s) onto your HD and into the config.sys I'm still reading and will let you know. M2

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Hello everyone, M2, You are correct, it is a self-extracting executable. I didn't realize that. Firespark, You can download a bootdisk that I created which will work from here Download it to the desktop. Insert a blank floppy. Click on the downloaded file. It will show, Unzip to Folder Select the Browse button and browse to the A: drive. Click OK. The files will be extracted to the floppy. Boot the computer using the floppy and select, Start with CDROM Support. Insert your Win98 CD. At A:\> type E: press [Enter] At E:\> type setup press [Enter] Best Regards, Mesich

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Hi all Thanks for continuing this mesich - I fear I was getting a little bleary eyed at that point. Hey - it's a brand new year! Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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Hi Jboy, My pleasure, glad M2 jumped in to let me know the 58x_dos.exe is a self-extracting executable. I guess you were a bit bleary eyed, seeing how it was 4:00 a.m. :-) I was hardly made it to midnight. I took a Win98 SE bootdisk and added the atapimgr.sys file. I then modified the config.sys by adding device=atapimgr.sys /D:mscd001. BTW, Happy New Year! Best Regards, Mesich

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Mesich, Uh... Looks like that has the standard 98 startup drivers. Didn't somebody figure out he needs the Matsus---a 58X drivers? FireSpark, If you get the 58x_DOS.exe run it and when the files have been extracted, run install. I that doesn't work we'll figure out how to hand crank the config. M2

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Thanks, & Happy New Year to you as well. Sure, I was considering a few options as to how to proceed. Some of those old installers are pretty fussy - that one wouldn't run unless it detected a compatible drive. An alternate driver would be preferred. Hopefully we'll hear back as to how things work out Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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Yeah - I'm just wondering about driver compatibility too. The readme indicates that this driver uses port and interrupt switches which would be detected & assigned by the installer (I'd think) - which was why I'd suggested plunking everything on the hard drive. We shall see Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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Hi M2, As you previously stated the 58x_DOS.exe contains the following files. 01-09-1998 02:04 7,628 README.TXT 27-07-1998 02:04 13,545 ATAPIMGR.SYS 08-07-1998 01:32 203 INSTALL.DAT 26-06-1998 01:32 110,835 INSTALL.exe 31-07-1997 01:21 12,981 SR_ASPI.SYS 20-11-1996 01:10 13,813 WDCTRL_0.386 README.TXT is not necessary to load the drivers. ATAPIMGR.SYS is the correct one for DOS. INSTALL.DAT and INSTALL.exe are also not neccessary if you modify the autoexec.bat and config.sys files manually. SR_ASPI.SYS and WDCTRL_0.386 are for Windows 3.1. Looks like that has the standard 98 startup drivers. The standard drivers, and in addition the drivers for their Matshi*a CR-581 CD-ROM. Notice the ATAPIMGR.SYS file on the bootdisk and the extra device defined in the config.sys. Best Regards, Mesich

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Hi M2, Jboy, hello everyone I just ran the install.exe to see what it changes. It adds the following 2 lines to config.sys: DEVICE=C:\ATACD\ATAPIMGR.SYS DEVICE=C:\ATACD\SR_ASPI.SYS /D:MSCD000 /Q It creates the ATACD directory within the root of C: Within the ATACD directory is the 2 .sys files. By placing the .sys file in the root directory of A: and changing the line in config.sys to the root direcory it is essentially the same thing. The thing I should have done was add the SR_ASPI.SYS file to the root and the line in config.sys for it also. Best Regards, Mesich

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Time for this old geezer to go to bed with the dragonlady. This will make more sense in the morning. Best to all. M2

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Mesich I just tried the file you gave me and I get this error when I try using it. Non-System disk or Disk Error What do I do now, any other suggestions?

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Hmm - not to muddle this up any further, but the 58x_dos.exe file yields (for me) CR_ATAPI.SYS INSTALL.DAT INSTALL.EXE WDCTRL.386 README.TXT .. and the installer aborts when it doesn't find a compatible CD drive: Installation of ATAPI CD-ROM device driver and utility software. Searching ATAPI CD-ROM drive. Detecting PRIMARY PORT ... Detecting SECONDARY PORT ... Detecting TERTIARY PORT ... Detecting QUATERNARY PORT ... Mis connection to ATAPI CD-ROM drive. Restart install operation after reconnected. Installation aborted. .. maybe I need more coffee ; ) At any rate, awaiting results from the OP Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.

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Hi Firespark, hello everyone, How did you copy the file to the floppy? You must first download the file to the desktop or somewhere else on the hard drive. NOT directly to the floppy. Then you click on the file in which was downloaded. Place a blank floppy into the drive. Select the Browse button and browse to A: I just uploaded a new bootdisk that contains some other files but none of which would have any effect on the Non-System Disk. I shall try to boot from the disk I just created right now. Best Regards, Mesich

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Do you guys MSN Messenger or some instant messenger I could chat with you guys? It would definately make this whole situation faster.

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Hi Firespark, hello everyone I just tested out the bootdisk and it worked just fine here. It did not load the drivers as I don't have that device, but it did boot just fine and loaded the diagnostics onto drive E:. I just realized you may be speaking of the drivers located in response #16. That would give you the NON-SYSTEM DISK error as that does not create a bootable disk. Download the bootdisk I created. The link is in response #18 and follow the instructions there. Best Regards, Mesich

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Alright, well I tried that 58x_dos.exe he mentioned earlier. But now it gives me something about MSCDEX, so what do I do about this?

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Hello everyone, It might make it a bit quicker but would then defeat the purpose of the forum. Others find the threads using search engines and such helping them in the future. Let us know where you are at and I'm sure we can get you going shortly. Best Regards, Mesich

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Hello everyone, Did you try what I suggested in response #18? Best Regards, Mesich

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Alright well I tried installing that 58x_dos.exe package and everything seems to be working. But now everytime I try to boot from C: I get the following error: Device Driver not found: 'MSC000'. No valid CDROM Drivers Selected. When I installed it, I chose the first option. I copied MSCDEX previously with the disk I use to boot the system to the root of C:\. What to do now?

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Hello everyone, Download this bootdisk to the desktop. Insert a blank floppy. Click on the downloaded file. It will show, Unzip to Folder Select the Browse button and browse to the A: drive. Click OK. The files will be extracted to the floppy. Boot the computer using the floppy and select, Start with CDROM Support. Best Regards, Mesich

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Hello everyone I forgot to mention, don't worry about the drivers for the cdrom. They are on the bootdisk. They should load after performing the instructions in response #36. Best Regards, Mesich

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Here's a step-by-step which has been successful & might help: 1. Go to Bootdisk.com and download to your harddisk the bootdisk for "Win.98se custom no ramdrive". 2. Insert a formatted floppy in A: and click on the file you downloaded. This will create the actual boot disk on A:. 3. Write protect the boot disk and boot from it. This will install a driver for your cd named Banana with the drive letter R: (watch the screen at boot time & you will see this). If you still need to format, at the A:\ command prompt type "format c:" (without the quotes) and hit enter. 4. Insert your Win OS disk in the cd and at the A: command prompt type "R:\setup" (without the quotes) and hit Enter. Follow the onscreen prompts to install Win. The installation sequence may contain a process to create a "Startup Disk" so have another blank formatted floppy available. 1. & 2. may have to be done on another pc. Of course, you will also have to reinstall all your anti-virus protections & other progs if you format. Good luck

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Alright well I tried response 38 and it doesn't work. I just get an error that says: No valid device drivers selected. Why I type F:\setup I just get something that says Invalid drive specification What do I do now?

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Apart from Mesich, nobody seems to be aware, Matsus---a is better known in the western world as Panasonic. The CR-581 is (from memory) a single spin drive which is not IDE. I believe that I used to have a CR-582 which I had to plug into a sound card and the drivers were included with the sound card driver disks. Firespark, you probably need to replace the CDROM with a more modern IDE type. If you are still using the sound card it came with, you might be able to make the hard drive bootable, install the drivers and then load win98.

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I know there is a way to do this because I once took the computer to a computer tech. to get it fixed because I wasn't sure how to re-install everthing. This time I want to do it on my own, I know it's possible because he did it before and it worked. Any thoughts guys, I really appreciate it.

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The mscdex error you get means mscdex is there but isn't loading because no cdrom drivers were loaded in config.sys or the cdrom drive name is different in autoexec.bat. If the config.sys drivers didn't load it's because they weren't there or because they didn't detect a cdrom. I'll put together a bootdisk containing the necessary files and email it to you. All you need to do is run the file I send and it will create a bootdisk. If that doesn't work, you'll need to open the case to see if the cdrom is connected directly to the motherboard or to an interface card like a sound card. Give me a little while to assemble things. As Rimfire mentions, the earlier cr5xx models were proprietary and needed special drivers but I think the cr581 is closer to being true IDE.

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Alright thanks for much, my e-mail is firespark@tlen.pl Looking forward to that boot disk, hopefully it should solve my problem. If you can give instructions in the e-mail it would greatly help as well.

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Bootdisks from bootdisk.com use the letter "R" for the CD-ROM drive - that's why you're getting the "Invalid drive specification" message when you type F:/SETUP See response 38 - step 4, or read the screen next time you boot off the floppy. That info is right in front of you Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @8x210mhz 512mb PC3200 Ti4200/8X 128mb WDC 60GB

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I don't think you need a new bootdisk, you just need to use the one you have in the correct way Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @8x210mhz 512mb PC3200 Ti4200/8X 128mb WDC 60GB

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I think it was inaccurate of me to say above that the cr581 was closer to true IDE since it seems the standard IDE drivers don't seem to be loading. I found a bootdisk image on my system that was named 'cr581' so I must have created it for that model. It uses cr_atapi.sys as the dos driver. Anyway that was the file I sent. Unzip it, run the extracted file to make the bootdisk and boot up the computer with it. If it doesn't work we'll try a different driver. In that case it'd be a good idea to post back info on how the cdrom is connected in the case.

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Alright well I tried the boot disk you sent me via e-mail DAVEINCAPS. I chose option 1 with the boot disk and get the following error: Your program caused an overflow error. If the problem persists, contact your program vendor. Any thoughts of why I get this error, its good because it looks like there is an option I can run the setup from the Windows 98 Disk.

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OK, it did that on my computer also but I thought it was because I didn't have that type of cdrom. I'll do a little more experimenting and get back to you. In the meantime, open the case and tell me how the cdrom is connected. That bootdisk is different than most. It doesn't create the ram drive so your cdrom drive letter doesn't change and it has the menu option to start the OS installation.

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Apparently that driver was corrupted. I downloaded another copy and it worked fine. Since I don't have that model, the drivers didn't load but I didn't get the overflow error. I just sent another bootdisk file with the new cr_atapi.sys. Extract and run it the same as before.

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Hello everyone Why is it you refuse to try what I suggest and respond????? The bootdisk I asked you to try will<b/> load. Why have you not responded as to what errors you receive, if you actually tried it???? DAVEINCAPS, What is wrong with the bootdisk I have already uploaded??? Best Regards, Mesich

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Hello everyone, What does it take to make a CDROM work from a floppy? mscdex.exe, yes, which is already on the bootdisk. The .sys file for the CDROM. Something to load it such as the AUTOEXEC.BAT file containing C:\MSCDEX.exe /D:MSCD001 The config.sys file containing a reference to DEVICE=C:\ATAPICD.SYS /D:MSCD001 or the device that is trying to be any device that is being trying to be loaded. If mscdex.exe exitst within the root dirctory anad the autoexec.bat file contains a reference to MSCDEX.exe to load and the config.sys loads the correct .sys file, why would one not have CDROM Support?? Best Regards, Mesich

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I'm with you Mesich. I used to have one of these drives, & I may still have it in a box in the basement. Regardless, it is a standard IDE drive, not proprietary. Either firespark isn't telling everything, or he doesn't know what he's doing. The bootdisk from bootdisk.com should work, provided he changes to "R" & then types SETUP. Valerie spelled out everything quite clearly in response 38, but the reply was, "I type F:\setup I just get something that says Invalid drive specification". The CD-ROM drive letter is R, not F! I can't believe a simple problem like this has taken more than 50 posts & it's still not solved! Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @8x210mhz 512mb PC3200 Ti4200/8X 128mb WDC 60GB

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Mesich, I just downloaded and ran your bootdisk file. It seemed to work fine. Of course as with your system the drivers didn't load because I don't have that cdrom. There seem to be 2 versions of 58x_dos. According to the driver dates, the one from your link is newer. The other from jboy's link uses cr_atapi.sys. That was also the file I had used previously. I assume both will work with the cdrom but have no way of testing. I couldn't be sure if Firespark's problem was in creating the bootdisk or with the bootdisk drivers. I'd made some bootdisks for other users of older panasonic cdroms and thought I'd just send him one. I didn't even notice until later the drivers I had were the same as jboy had found. These older drives could be finicky about what drivers they'd accept. The older panasonic\matsus---su\mke cdroms had 40-pin connectors but weren't true IDE. I remember in the past trying to set them up as regular IDE and failing every time. I threw out quite a few before I realized they weren't working because they weren't IDE. However I think now the cr581 is regular IDE but doesn't accept standard IDE drivers.

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Hello everyone, DAVEINCAPS, I agree with you completely. FireSparks, Have you tried what I've suggested in response #18? If so, what errors or problems do you have? I see you have tried those in response #38, so why not what I suggested earlier, hence response #18? Best Regards, Mesich

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Hello everyone Jam, Missed your response while creating mine. I agree with you completely. I just hope the OP comes back. I'm certain with the highly knowledgeable people following this thread, we can get them up and running. Hope you had a merry Christmas and wish you the best in the New Year! Best Regards, Mesich

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Hi Gang, As long as we're co-writing an encyclopedia... It's obvious now [too bad it wasn't obvious then] that we need to know what the BIOS reports. If it's not a real IDE drive we'll have wasted a few dozen replies. Rule of thumb: have MSCDEX assign a letter, so you don't need to go looking for it. When you finally get access to the win98 CD, I believe that setup is in the win98 directory NOT the root. M2

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My theory... Firespark finally followed #18 and all is fine. S/he will not be returning to advise. ;) LOL Bryan

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Hi Bryan, #18 has him DL a file which will extract a bunch of files to floppy. They will not make it bootable. I'll stay tuned. LOL M2

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Hello everyone, M2, It certainly wouldn't of hurt to check the BIOS settings for the drive. Setup is located in both the root directory and within the Win98 directory. #18 has him DL a file which will extract a bunch of files to floppy. They will not make it bootable. The download in #18 is a bootable disk. Best Regards, Mesich

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Alright well anyways, I tried both bootdisks. The one recommended to get from BootDisk.com Custom with no RAM Drive gave me this error. Device Drive not found: 'BANANA'. No valid CDROM device drivers selected. Now I tried the one from Mesich and this is the error I get while using it. Interface board or DVD/CD-ROM drive not ready. Insure that device power is on and drive cables are correctly attached. I'm 100% sure everything is connected because its not like I just took the box out of no where. Once I formatted I never opened the computer or anything. Any other suggestions?

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Hello everyone, From everything I have read so far about the cd-rom it is an IDE drive. It appears that is not the case though with the error message you are receiving. Try these things in order: Go to response #16 and download the file to the desktop. Insert a floppy and click on the download to extract the files to the floppy disk. Take out the floppy disk and set it aside. Start the computer using the Win98 bootdisk you got from bootdisk.com. Select without cdrom support when prompted. At the A:\> type sys c: Take out the bootdisk and insert the one you previously set aside. Type install [Enter] Take out that floppy and restart the computer. What error messages do you receive if any? Can you now access the cdrom? Best Regards, Mesich

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You mean with the bootdisk you gave me after I have used the sys c: command?

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Hello everyone, No, not the bootdisk you got from me. Download this file to the desktop. Insert a blank floppy and click on the downloaded file. It will extract the files to the floppy. Label that floppy "drivers" for ease of future reference. Best Regards, Mesich

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Alright but which bootdisk from Bootdisk.com?

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Hello everyone, Either one will work fine. Best Regards, Mesich

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Both drivers recommended for that model cdrom--cr_atapi.sys and sr_aspi.sys--don't recognize my IDE cdroms. So it's logical to think they are proprietary drivers. As Mesich mentioned above, info on the drive indicates it's IDE. OK so it's an IDE drive that needs proprietary drivers. Bootdisks with generic IDE drivers aren't going to work. I still don't know if he's tried Mesich's disk. I had no problem downloading the file and creating the bootdisk. Also I sent a bootdisk with the non-corrupted cr_atapi.sys yesterday. Firespart, have you tried that one yet? Heck, I've got shelves full of old cdroms that are better than that 4x. Maybe I should just send one.

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Hi DAVEINCAPS, I agree that booting with a generic bootdisk isn't going to work. What I was referring to in response #61 was to use the bootdisk in order to copy the system files to the hard drive making it bootable. Then to insert the floppy containing all of the files including the install.exe to install the cdrom drivers. Hopefully we here back about the suggestions in response #61 along with the results of the new bootdisk you created. Heck, I've got shelves full of old cdroms that are better than that 4x. Maybe I should just send one. I'll pay the shipping. :-) Best Regards, Mesich

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Hi Could be a hardware problem. I believe I used a cr-581 for a while. They were popular with vendors in Australia a while back. The drive I used, which worked quite well with generic drivers, did slowly begin to develop a problem. As the runner track wore, the lens had increasing dificulty of reading the boot track and then eventually the file volume area. (Some boot formats seemed to be more tolerant of mis-alignment, so some boot cds would boot while others would not. Some cd media was a bit better to read as well. Gladly it finally died and it was replaced) I would guess that eventually it would be a common problem for cr-581s. I guess it meant the cdrom was well bult, as I've many dead cd devices which died very quickly in comparision.

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anenefan, Good info. I think this is not a case of that. Actually, speaking of the track wearing out, basically what wer're doing in this thread is redefining lost motion. I gave up, about 10 mileposts back, trying to find out what's in BIOS. While we're at it; does anyone have an original win98se CD? If so, please check to see where oemsetup.exe & setup.exe are. TIA M2

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There's a setup.exe in both the root directory and the win98 directory. Both seem to work OK for an installation. OEMsetup.exe is in win98. It'll start the installation also. OEMsetup.exe isn't on my retail 98se upgrade disk and it may not be on the retail full versions either. If Anenefan is right about the drivers then the only thing I can think of is the cdrom is connected to an interface card like sound card and the drivers aren't seeing it there. Either that or the usual--jumpers, connection or controllers disabled in cmos.

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Last time for me... Go to bootdisk.com & get the proper bootdisk. This should have been caught earlier but I believe you need the version with RAMdrive - isn't that where the drivers temporarily load?? Don't get the Custom version, get the OEM version. And make sure to use R for your CD drive letter http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @8x210mhz 512mb PC3200 Ti4200/8X 128mb WDC 60GB

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Alright I'm back guys, mesich I did what you said in response #61 and this is the following error I get when I boot my system. Device driver not found: 'MSCD000'. No valid CDROM device drivers selected. I dont understand why it's still doing this. Can anyone help me out further?

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Since Mesich's disk didn't work, I think there's a good chance mine won't either. But it does have a different driver. The first one I sent had a corrupted driver. The second one was OK. Have you tried the second one I sent?

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Which response number are you talking about DAVEINCAPS?

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46, 47, 48, 49 The file I sent with the good driver was named CR581-2.ZIP.

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Alright well I tried the bootdisk #2 you sent me DAVEINCAPS... and again I am getting errors. Interface board or CD-ROM is not ready. Insure that drive power is on and drive cables correctly attached. What to do now.. I know the CD-ROM is connected for sure because I didn't touch anything before I formatted it. So what should I do now?

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What does the cable from the cdrom connect to? Does it connect to the motherboard or does it connect to an add-on card. If it's a card, describe it.

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I'm going to email you another bootdisk. It contains a program called 'disk inspector' that came with some mitsumi cdroms. It will poll the existing addresses and report if anything is connected as well as the address and irq. Extract it as you did with my previous disks. Additional instructions will show on the screen when you boot up with the disk. There's also a dos driver installation program on there. Don't use that as it may only confuse things.

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Hey DAVEINCAPS, I just sent you an e-mail with the log file I got after using the boot disk you gave me. Hope you can help me out further, thanks.

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The log file shows it's seeing an Atapi device--your cdrom I guess--as a primary slave. I'm sending you another bootdisk that will look at that particular port for the drive. Extract and run it the same as the others.

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As I suspected, your gmail address refused the attachment. Gmail seems to block any file, zipped or otherwise, that has an executable program in it. So I sent it to your other address. I hope you still have access to it.

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DAVEINCAPS I would like to thank you so much for your help, you guys have all been a great help. I finally got my CD-ROM to work in DOS. Once I finish installing Windows 98SE onto my other computer I'll post the solutions up. Thanks once again, you have been such a great help especially Dave!

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But one problem though, how do I get the CD-ROM to work in Windows now after using the floppy disk you gave me DAVEINCAPS?

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Have you already done the installation and it's not showing? If so try downloading 58X_9X.EXE from the panasonic site. Download or copy that file to a folder where you can find it afterwards, such as one named 'panasonic'. Then run the file. It will extract several files in that folder. Then run setup from there. Hopefully that will fix it.

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