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I have an older desktop with three HD's and I am trying to install 98 on one of them. I have used fdisk and have ran format c: \s. I start up with the cd and the setup begins. However, about 6% through the installation it says I have interupted it and then I can not continue with the install. What I believe is happening is it uses DOS on the CD to begin, and then it's as though the cd driver "deactivates" (I know thats not the right term). Any assistance would be much apprecated.
You may be more successful if you copy the contents of the Win98 folder from the CD to a folder on one of your drives, and then proceed with the installation from there.
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.. forgot to add - if you do install this way, whenever Windows requires access to the CD, it will instead automatically look in the folder used for the installation. This can be advantageous - unless you end up deleting the folder. There's a minor registry edit that can adjust that setting, if necessary.
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I had this problem with an old AT i built for this guy for 40 bucks. Took me a week to figure it out. Problem is is that i forget what i did to fix it. All i know is that i fixed it by going into the BIOS and doing something. I believe it was the PnP settings. It was sort of strange cause it was working before and i formatted it the same day that it was working with no problems (just to make sure i hadn't left any personal stuff in it) and when i tried to install it would go about maybe 5 or 6 percent and it would say i interuppted it. (note: just to make sure ur disk isn't screwed try sticking in a 95 disk... if u have the same problem as i did, all win9x will give you this error. It wouldn't hurt to format it once you figure out its working again because the formatting with the screwed up bios might have screwed up the format)
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Like most microsoft error messages that one too is not very helpful. Usually when you get that error it means you have problem with the cdrom or sometimes the cd. Occasionally the RAM or HD is the problem but I'd bet on the cdrom. It's not the drivers. Make sure the cd and cdrom are clean. Or as jboy suggests, if you can get it copied to the HD it should install OK.
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Yes I does run scandisk, the HD is fine. However, I feel like an idiot, how do I copy an entire CD to a HD?
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You don't need to copy the whole thing, just the win98 folder. Some instructions at your new post in the DOS forum.
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OK, I can't copy the folder because the same thing happens when I begin the installation. So It looks like I need either to clean the CD or get a new one.
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Say what now? You copy the folder first, then run setup from the hard drive folder - although if the disc is dirty or damaged, then you will still encounter problems.
I'm confused
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No, I can't even copy the folder onto the HD. As soon as it begins copying a specific file the CD Drive spins down and I can't continue. I can't even copy files past that one. I think I need a new CD. I have even tried a different CD-ROM Drive with the same results.
Anyway, I'm done for tonight I will post again tomorrow around 5 or 6 PST so, thanx for all the help and If you have more ideas please post and I'll check back.
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One option in the bios can cause strange install problems. Make sure that there isn't an anti-virus option enabled.
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That wouldn't really come into play until the boot sector was rewritten for the new OS - at any rate, the drive's already been formatted with the system option, so any BIOS AV would appear to be off.
For sure, if you're unable to copy the files then that could indicate a bad CD, especially if you've already tried a different drive.
"when I begin the installation" was what had me wondering.
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One of the reasons I hate to see 'sys c:' advice when installing Windows is that we are not sure how the OP is booting. IF he is using an OEM CD he could be booting from CDROM for all we know, or the hard drive without CDROM support, or...? Advice depends on what booted DOS.
Boot with the 98 floppy boot disk and do:
c:
md win98Then depending on your CD drive letter, what ever that is, R in this example, and do:
r:
cd win98
copy *.* c:\win98
c:
cd win98
setupAny joy? If not, describe any new symptoms.
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No change. It starts to copy driver17.cab and then give me the error: "cdr101: Not ready reading drive F. Abort, Retry, Fail?"
So I think I'm going to have to find a new CD somewhere. Thanks tough.
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Sure - that's the kind of error message you'd expect from a bad or dirty disc.
melee.. what? The drive was formatted with the /s option. Unnecessary, sure - but somewhat moot - and while the CD seems FUBAR'd, it seems access is not an issue since copying appears to have been partially successful.
You have managed to pretty much repeat the instructions offered in the DOS forum, where the OP also posted.
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OK, Here's an update,
I coppied the win98 folder on the cd to the same folder on the hd. Only problem is there are several CAB files that when they are about to be coppied, the cd spins down and pauses then gives me the same message as before. So I then choose F for fail and it will continue to copy, after it has copied a few more the same thing happens again. So I have succesfuly copied the win98 folder minus about 20 or so CAB files. It is as though the files arn't even there or the CD is scrached bad enough that the laser can't read it. I am clueless at this point.
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I decided to run setup off the HD just for kicks, and It stoped in the same place as before. It is also tries to copy the file "c:\win98\infrared.cnt". I even check the cd and there is no such file unless it is in a CAB file.
Acutally, if I try to skip it, every file after, I can't find.
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This is why I have disliked Windows in every way since I can remember. Sure makes Mac looke like an angle. (I've been a mac fan forever)
EVERY FILE THAT SETUP CAN'T FIND IS A DLL FILE!!!
I thought DOS copied invisable files as well.
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Well, if there are errors during the copying process and/or CABinet files skipped, I can't see how it's going to work.
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It's true the dos copy command doesn't copy hidden files, but in this case there are no hidden files to be copied. Also this isn't an OS problem; it's a hardware problem. So if the roles were somehow switched, a Mac would be having similar problems.
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Jbathehut, jboy has suggested cleaning the cd. What does the cd surface look like? You can quickly clean by holding the underside under a flow of water from a tap, and gently using a soft finger to rub the surface. Always be careful of the top surface which can scratch and cause major damage. Your finger won't scratch the surface (underside) like cloth and paper can, but will shift grime from most scratches which may be causing a bad read. (using non abrasive soap can help, but generally not required) And again, be careful of the top surface, so don't place it on a work bench to really scrub the underside, just hold it gently, and rub the underside gently with your finger. Remove from the water and allow to drip dry. After this you should copy the cd - use the "copy a cd" option in the cd burning software. If it doesn't copy properly, consider taking it to a dvd rental shop and ask them to clean/polish your cd. (small fee) Don't expect to polish out all the scratches, just some of them. Copy.
While you are cleaning the cd you should prepare the machine. First verify the system memory.
Memtest86 is a memory tester, better than the "psychic" method.
If it can complete a few passes, it should be ok. Obviously the more passes it completes, the surer you can be, the memory is ok.
Next, verify the hard drive. Use the manufactures' diagnostic to test the drive. Diagnostics generally can be found at the website of the manufacturer, where you can download them (free). Progams need to be run to create a bootable diagnostic, isos need to be burned via a software that can burn images.
Ok the final step is to zero the drive. Killdisk free version can do this for you. You may have to go over the drive a couple of times to get a clear run.
Now if you see no problems writting to the drive, go ahead and install. [off the cd or you may have to try the flat install method again]
If you did have problems with zeroing the drive, where you may have needed to skip now and then, I'd suggest you use -- scandisk /time. This /time option will keep data off areas which are slow to read and perhaps failing.
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The data is on the top of the disc, not the bottom...if the top coating is scratched off, the disc is most likely shot. If the bottom (clear) side of the disc is scratched or dirty, it can be cleaned or even polished with a mild abrasive. I've used automotive polishing compound (not rubbing compound) to remove scratches before. If the disk worked OK afterwards, I immediately burned a backup copy. If you try this, do NOT rub around the disc in a circle, always work from the center & go straight outward.
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He did try a different drive (# 11) although they both could be problematic. Might not hurt to try another cable.
Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?
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Heh - it is getting a bit hard to follow.
Does sound like a bad disc, but sure, if there's a problem with others too then it would almost have to be the drive(s) (or cable)
Why don't they make computers that will do what we think we want them to do?
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