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Name: efs2
Date: December 31, 2004 at 14:49:59 Pacific
OS: Windows XP HOme
CPU/Ram: 2.4GHz/1024MHz
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Greetings:
Can Windows 98SE Update files be slipstreamed or otherwise blended into Windows 98 installation files to make a single Windows 98SE installation disk?
Thanks.
Ed



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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 31, 2004 at 15:03:46 Pacific
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I have looked for a utility to do just that without success. I did find a program to create CAB file though.


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Response Number 2
Name: efs2
Date: December 31, 2004 at 19:09:23 Pacific
Reply:

Greetings:
Thanks for responding.
Please explain.
The utility you found allows a user to create Win98SE CAB files prior to installation?
If so, what more do you need?
Where can I find the utility?
Ed


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Response Number 3
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 31, 2004 at 20:20:18 Pacific
Reply:

What does "slipstream" mean?

M2

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Response Number 4
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 31, 2004 at 21:10:52 Pacific
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elf2

Check your Email

Mechanix2Go

Slipstreaming is the process of adding fles to the install routine for a program. Like the way Microsoft does with the service packs and WinXP. There are a couple of programs floating around to stipstream the Service packs into XP and even the later service packs for Win2000. None for Win98 that I know of. The CAB file program may be able to accomplish that. If it could be done, all the updates to date could be installed at the sme time.


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Response Number 5
Name: StuartS
Date: December 31, 2004 at 21:13:40 Pacific
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Slipstreaming is a Corporate Administration tool. It allows corporate administrators to create installation disks incorporating updates and patches into a single installation disk.

http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html

It is only available with WinNT/2000/XP and MS Office. It has no relevance with Windows 98 which is mainly a home OS.

Creating CAB files is not a problem. Windows 98 comes with the facility built in although I cannot remember the command to do it of the top of my head. It is done from a command prompt.

Having said that, I would not combine Win98 Second Edition updates with Win98 First Edition via CAB files. It could create all sorts of problems.

Stuart


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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 31, 2004 at 21:18:10 Pacific
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Stuart

The idea is to incorporate all the critical updates and patches into the CD, including IE6 sp1.

I don't think ef2 wants to combine 98fe & 98se. I know I wouldn't be insterested in doing that. Would be nice to be able to just install Win98se without needing to download and/or apply all those periphial files.


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Response Number 7
Name: StuartS
Date: December 31, 2004 at 21:33:26 Pacific
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OtheHill

>> I don't think ef2 wants to combine 98fe & 98se. <<

That was the impression I got. You could incorporate IE SP1 without to much problem, but all the other updates, DLLs and such, would create problems.

Incorporating Win98 SE updates files into Win98 SE would be a possibility but where the the slipstreaming facility does it automatically, with Win 98 it would have to be done manually. A long and laborious task.

Stuart


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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: December 31, 2004 at 21:40:02 Pacific
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I thought as much. I did find a program that claim to be able to incorporate updates to XP as well as slipstream SP1 or SP2. I don't know if it works because I am a Win2000 user. It would be nice to be able to slipstream SP4 into my Win2000sp1 CD.


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Response Number 9
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: December 31, 2004 at 22:01:26 Pacific
Reply:

Stuart,

Thanks. Got it.


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Response Number 10
Name: efs2
Date: January 1, 2005 at 09:48:16 Pacific
Reply:

Greetings:
Thanks for all the responses.
Just to remove any doubt: what I want to do is "combine" a Windows 98 installation disk and a Windows 98SE Update disk to make a single disk to install Windows 98SE.
Mixing in the critical updates and Internet Explorer SP1 would be great, but not essential.

OntheHill, thanks for the program.
If I try it, I will report the results here.
Ed


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Response Number 11
Name: Dave357
Date: January 1, 2005 at 10:21:50 Pacific
Reply:

OtheHill,

Happy New Year.

Look here for info regarding slipstreaming Win2K SP4.

HTH

Dave

If a Man is talking in the forest and there is no woman there to hear him, is he still wrong?


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Response Number 12
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 1, 2005 at 11:26:50 Pacific
Reply:

Dave357

This looks like what I wanted. Thanks. For some reason other instructions I found stated that you needed to already have SP2 slipstreamed prior to slipstreaming SP4. My 2000pro disk has SP1 slipstreamed and all I have had to do was apply SP4 and any updates after that, so it made no sense to me. Going back to the original query. I dual boot Win98se and Win2000. I still would like to somehow integrate all the Win98se critical updates and patches into one install disk. I will try doing the Win2000 disk though.


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Response Number 13
Name: Dave357
Date: January 1, 2005 at 12:05:53 Pacific
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OtheHill, yeah, I'd love to slipstream Win98SE with all of the updates, but I've never found a way to do it. The closest that I've seen is to use the Security Update CD that Microsoft is(was?) giving away. That installs most of the updates at once (after completing the normal installation). But even after using it, there are several Windows Updates that came out after the CD did. I do a lot of Win98SE installs, & a slipstream would sure save a lot of time.

I've toyed with the idea of doing a clean install, including updates, on a small (600-MB?) partition, using regedit to delete the HKLM>Enum Key in the registry, then shutting down, slaving the HD into another PC, and using Nero to create a disk image. (The 600-MB? partition should allow the image to fit on one CD.) This could then be used as a sort of Recovery CD on any machine, though it would still need to discover & install all of the hardware. I'm not sure how much junk this would leave in the registry though. If I ever get around to trying this, I'll post the results here on the forum.

Dave


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Response Number 14
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 1, 2005 at 12:18:37 Pacific
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I thought about exactly the same thing, but as you pointed out, there are inherent problems with this method. We need to figure something out. Windows98 is on the last leg of support. I have archived all that junk, but it is difficult to sort through all of it. MS didn't help when they relabeled all of the patches with different numbers either. The same goes for Win2000.


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Response Number 15
Name: Bryco
Date: January 2, 2005 at 05:01:13 Pacific
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Dave357,

If you do try your idea you might want to try another approach...
Create your installation complete.

When done go to System properties, Hardware Profiles tab, create a new configuration by copying the current (original) one and renaming it to 'New install' or something else.

Then clone it.

The first time it starts up on a new machine it will then ignore the "Original" hardware configuration and establish the new one.

Once installed on the new target machine simply delete the "Original" configuration and rename the "New install" to "Original".

Sure, the registry will contain the original hardware information but it won't take up much space. (Possibly, the first config will be removed from the registry upon it's deletion???)

Just a thought,
Bryan


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Response Number 16
Name: Dave357
Date: January 2, 2005 at 14:32:55 Pacific
Reply:

Bryco,

Hmm...interesting thought. I could actually try both approaches with one installation, too...first your approach, then delete the HKLM>Enum key & burn a second CD.

I may try this sometime this week. The laptop that I use on a daily basis has been getting some IE popups lately, & I haven't been able to find the source of the problem, even after running AdAware, scanning with the Antivirus, checking MSConfig, etc, so I've been thinking about formatting & starting over anyway. I'll post results if I actually get around to doing it.

Dave


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Response Number 17
Name: Bryco
Date: January 2, 2005 at 14:36:19 Pacific
Reply:

I'll keep an eye open for your posting.

Bryan


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Response Number 18
Name: Viper9000
Date: January 9, 2005 at 20:11:41 Pacific
Reply:

I have not been able to find a utility for win 98se slipstreaming and driver/hotfix integration however for xp users u can find n-lite and a great guide at http://www.msfn.org/articles.php?action=show&showarticle=49 there is also a link there for unattended xp build. Please if a win98se utility exsists let me know

Cheers


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Response Number 19
Name: twdun
Date: January 16, 2005 at 12:32:13 Pacific
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http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=91
98se unofficial service pack 2.0 beta


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Response Number 20
Name: Bryco
Date: January 16, 2005 at 16:42:00 Pacific
Reply:

Twdun,
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showforum=91 only presents another forum with no specific reference to Slipstreaming.

Could you point us to the particular post that provides the info related to this thread similar to this http://computing.net/windows95/wwwboard/forum/163252.html that points to this one?

Thanks,
Bryan


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